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View Poll Results: Where will Dallas pick for the 2013 NHL Entry Draft?
1st-5th 14 22.58%
6th-10th 26 41.94%
11th-15th 16 25.81%
16th-20th 4 6.45%
21st-25th 1 1.61%
26th-30th 1 1.61%
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04-03-2013, 12:02 PM
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We already have a franchise center. All of the D prospects are nice and all, but none of them are likely going to be franchise D.

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i think itd be pretty sad to make a big marketing thing about a guy who isnt even a Stars fan

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What does that have to do with anything?

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We already have a franchise center. All of the D prospects are nice and all, but none of them are likely going to be franchise D.
I can give you 1st line center despite thinking he fits best elsewhere. But this Jamie Benn as a franchise player stuff is just way too soon. The guy hasnt even managed a point per game. IMO the best player on a franchise is not necessarily a franchise player.

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What does that have to do with anything?
What does having lived in Dallas at one point have anything to do with hockey ability?

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What does having lived in Dallas at one point have anything to do with hockey ability?
What kind of question is that? I'm talking about marketing. You seriously don't see any value in marketing a local kid as being your team's next star player?

His ability is not in question.

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What kind of question is that? I'm talking about marketing. You seriously don't see any value in marketing a local kid as being your team's next star player?

His ability is not in question.
I'm saying it's an idiotic discussion when you're talking about drafting. It has no impact on the draft floor at all .... zero.

It's silly to keep pumping it up like him being from Dallas is a good reason to draft him. His merits stand on their own.

Marketing decisions have no place in a discussion about drafting, trading, or signing players. If they did, you'd never have the Morrow-Morrow trade since from a marketing standpoint, it pisses off the moronic masses.

Call me crazy for wanting Les Jackson and Joe Nieuwendyk to focus on acquiring hockey players and worry about Lites handling marketing duty.

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04-03-2013, 12:11 PM
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What kind of question is that? I'm talking about marketing. You seriously don't see any value in marketing a local kid as being your team's next star player?

His ability is not in question.
Sure it would be nice, but not nice enough to include it in any sort of decision process about who to take.

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04-03-2013, 12:12 PM
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It absolutely does. You can pretend it doesn't if you want.

And besides, it's just a bonus. Jones is the best fit from a purely hockey standpoint for this organization.

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04-03-2013, 12:14 PM
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It absolutely does. You can pretend it doesn't if you want.

And besides, it's just a bonus. Jones is the best fit from a purely hockey standpoint for this organization.
I totally disagree. I am not pretending to disagree, I actually disagree. Not everything you think is fact.

He may be. I disagree here too but I think its close.

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04-03-2013, 12:15 PM
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Jamie Benn is a franchise center now? All right.

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04-03-2013, 12:25 PM
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Maybe if you have really low expectations for what that "franchise" tag really means.

There's a handful of guys out there that you SHOULD be building a team around without consideration. Benn's not on that list.

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04-03-2013, 02:08 PM
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Is there an updated list of all of the Stars draft picks by round?

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Is there an updated list of all of the Stars draft picks by round?
First post is updated as much as we know.

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So, if we get a top 5 pick like we're hoping, would our first, second, and the conditional pick from Boston be enough to get the first pick and draft MacKinnon? He seems like he'd be perfect for short term 2C/long term Benn's C.

EDIT- let me rephrase that, our 1st (in the top 5), Vancouver's second, and the conditional from Boston if its a first. If its not, then our 2nd and a 5th.


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So, if we get a top 5 pick like we're hoping, would our first, second, and the conditional pick from Boston be enough to get the first pick and draft MacKinnon? He seems like he'd be perfect for short term 2C/long term Benn's C.

EDIT- let me rephrase that, our 1st (in the top 5), Vancouver's second, and the conditional from Boston if its a first. If its not, then our 2nd and a 5th.
I dont know if it would or not but I wouldnt do it anyway.

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Jim Lites: "3 extra draft picks we have acquired in the first two rounds. "

I thought we got 2 picks?

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I think they've done everything they can to acquire as many defensive pieces as possible even if it takes them a year or more to come to fruition. That said there's nothing outside of Faska and Shore for center and both are longer term projects. Franchise centers are just as valuable as franchise defenders.

Dallas probably doesn't fall far enough to get the 1st overall and may not ever have another chance to get as good a center as is available in those first 6 picks. They have to take one of them.
I don't think Faksa is a long term project. He should be in Dallas in 2014-15.

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I dont know if it would or not but I wouldnt do it anyway.
I can see why it'd be a risky venture. However, my thinking is that we have enough 2-4th line prospects, which are usually found in the late first through the late second round. What we're lacking is young first line talent. MacKinnon/Drouin/Barkov solves that problem immediately. MacKinnon especially because he's a center, and looks like the second coming of Eric Staal.

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So the question is do we draft the best player available when we are up or do we go after organizational needs?

Also Lets assume Dallas ends up with the 7th overall pick and the conditional 2nd from Jagr turns into a 1st (probably 27th). Are those two 1st's enough to drop to a top 4 pick or would Dallas have to add a prospect?

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I can see why it'd be a risky venture. However, my thinking is that we have enough 2-4th line prospects, which are usually found in the late first through the late second round. What we're lacking is young first line talent. MacKinnon/Drouin/Barkov solves that problem immediately. MacKinnon especially because he's a center, and looks like the second coming of Eric Staal.
im just not sure those guys are THAT much better than Lindholm or Monahan

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im just not sure those guys are THAT much better than Lindholm or Monahan
I haven't studied up on either of them as much as I have the top 4, are they both NHL ready? Cause if they are that'd be 2 birds with one stone.

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Jones, MacKinnon, Drouin, and Barkov are a tier above everyone else.

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Draft scenario question. I'm really curious as to how the group as a whole here would respond in this particular situation.

Let's say somehow Dallas has the 3rd overall pick. Doubtful but whatever. Either the cost is too high or the two teams in front of them do not wish to trade out of 1st or 2nd. Jones and McKinnon are both taken. Who do you select at three? Drouin? Barkov? Valeri Nichushkin? (I don't think there's a way in the world Dallas takes him there but...) Do you trade back to 4 or 5? What would you do if you were GM and what do you think Dallas does if they're in that position.

I think me personally Drouin is a fantastic talent who's size and position basically rules him out as a Dallas pick. I see if I can move back a spot or two and get an extra pick/prospect but still be able to select Barkov or Lindholm at worst. If I can't move back one or two slots I take Barkov. Anyone else agree?

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I really don't think we'd trade down if we found ourselves in the top five....

Hell, if we end up 3rd, I can see us trading up, to land Seth.

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