HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > General Hockey Discussion > Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk Trade rumors, transactions, and free agent talk. Rumors must contain the word RUMOR in post title. Proposals must contain the word PROPOSAL in post title.

Patrick Marleau

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
09-22-2012, 12:30 AM
  #1
PeterForsberg
Registered User
 
PeterForsberg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Laval, QC
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,347
vCash: 500
Patrick Marleau

What's Marleau's value? What do the Sharks want for him? I know he has a NTC, but let's forget about that.

His traits:
-Good defensive player
-Good 2nd line winger
-Good shot

PeterForsberg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-22-2012, 12:34 AM
  #2
TheJuxtaposer
#Shorks
 
TheJuxtaposer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: San Diego, CA
Country: United States
Posts: 26,387
vCash: 567
If you're only valuing him as a 2nd line winger, then this isn't going to get very far... Besides, Marleau threads never end well. :/

TheJuxtaposer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-22-2012, 12:37 AM
  #3
Vankiller Whale
Maybe HE can score
 
Vankiller Whale's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Toronto
Country: Canada
Posts: 24,445
vCash: 5555
Probably a younger, faster, slightly worse forward with upside.

Vankiller Whale is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-22-2012, 12:38 AM
  #4
BCShark
Registered User
 
BCShark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 2,674
vCash: 500
as a sharks fan i would love to get rid of patty

BCShark is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-22-2012, 12:41 AM
  #5
Aceonfire
Las Vegas Aces
 
Aceonfire's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,093
vCash: 500
Marleau can also play center, that always adds to his value. He is also still one of the fastest players in the game. I would love to have him as an Oiler, but I have no idea what the asking price would be.

Hemsky, 1st 2013.

I think Hemsky would mesh well with SJs style, and the trade back of salary wouldn't hurt the Oilers as much. SJ is also pretty bare on the RW.
The sharks would also get a pick in a very deep talented draft.

Hall-Nuge-Ebs
Mar-Gag-Yak

I love that top 6.

Aceonfire is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
09-22-2012, 12:46 AM
  #6
Arrch
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: NorCal
Country: United States
Posts: 4,331
vCash: 50
He's a 1st line winger or 2nd line center.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceonfire View Post
Hemsky, 1st 2013.
Unless this is a deadline deal and the Oilers haven't won a game and Patrick Marleau is out for the remainder of the regular season, No.

Arrch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-22-2012, 01:57 AM
  #7
Numbers
Registered User
 
Numbers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 2,065
vCash: 500
If the sharks tank this season, no pun intended, could be a nice pickup at the deadline for the Canucks. Obviously start with a 1st and go from there.

Numbers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-22-2012, 02:22 AM
  #8
TheJuxtaposer
#Shorks
 
TheJuxtaposer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: San Diego, CA
Country: United States
Posts: 26,387
vCash: 567
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vankiller Whale View Post
Probably a younger, faster, slightly worse forward with upside.
You don't get much faster than Marleau.

TheJuxtaposer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-22-2012, 09:12 AM
  #9
Pinkfloyd
Registered User
 
Pinkfloyd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Roseville
Country: United States
Posts: 32,141
vCash: 2283
If you forget about the NMC then his value would be immense. There aren't many left wingers in this game that can put up 30+ goals, play as well as him defensively, and have the versatility to play with different players either at wing or center and still succeed. He's not dependent on anyone to score.

With the NMC, I couldn't tell you what his value is because nobody really knows where he'd want to play if it wasn't San Jose. I would guess that Calgary and Winnipeg might be on there as well as maybe LA, Anaheim, Colorado, and possibly Minnesota. If all those teams were on that list then maybe you can get decent value but if it's just say three teams then his return won't be that great.

You can't really generalize it and say he'll return a younger forward and this and that. It's going to be dependent on what teams he is willing to go to and what they have because if the Sharks are open to trading Marleau, they're going to have to take whoever the best young asset is that they're being offered whether it's a forward, d-man, or a goalie as they will need all of them when that eventual rebuild hits.

Pinkfloyd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-22-2012, 10:22 AM
  #10
Ghetto Sangria
Groupthink
 
Ghetto Sangria's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 2,917
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceonfire View Post
Marleau can also play center, that always adds to his value. He is also still one of the fastest players in the game. I would love to have him as an Oiler, but I have no idea what the asking price would be.

Hemsky, 1st 2013.

I think Hemsky would mesh well with SJs style, and the trade back of salary wouldn't hurt the Oilers as much. SJ is also pretty bare on the RW.
The sharks would also get a pick in a very deep talented draft.

Hall-Nuge-Ebs
Mar-Gag-Yak

I love that top 6.
I think this deal would interest both clubs no?

Ghetto Sangria is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-22-2012, 10:47 AM
  #11
CommanderShepard15
Eberle=Clutch
 
CommanderShepard15's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 4,258
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceonfire View Post
Hemsky, 1st 2013.
I do love the idea of adding MacKinnon to this team

CommanderShepard15 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-22-2012, 10:47 AM
  #12
ScottyDont
Registered User
 
ScottyDont's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Philly (<3 in SJ)
Country: United States
Posts: 523
vCash: 900
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dirty Danglez View Post
I think this deal would interest both clubs no?
I don't know much about Hemsky, but on the surface he's had injuries and pretty poor numbers. Hemsky also isn't that young at 29. I think I'd want someone younger or more proven then this guy. And his salary hit seems way to high.

If he had more seasons like 200708 maybe, but as of right now, pass.

ScottyDont is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-22-2012, 12:08 PM
  #13
Bernier the Boats
Formerly BBurke
 
Bernier the Boats's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,571
vCash: 500
Interested from Toronto. Any two prospects not including Rielly + roster player would work for me. Think he'd be perfect with Phil.

Bernier the Boats is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-22-2012, 12:23 PM
  #14
sabrescupbound
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Country: United States
Posts: 826
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by PeterForsberg View Post
What's Marleau's value? What do the Sharks want for him? I know he has a NTC, but let's forget about that.

His traits:
-Good defensive player
-Good 2nd line winger
-Good shot
Would this be going into somewhat of a rebuild mode?

I would do Hodgson, Leino, Leopold, Adam, Brennen, and a first for Thornton and Marleau

I know I'm gonna get crap for Leino but he would have to be included to make enough cap. That's also why I added Brennen. So 3 top prospects, A good Dman that they can release after next year if they wish, and Leino with a first. Great rebuild package if you ask me.

sabrescupbound is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-22-2012, 12:54 PM
  #15
tsujimoto74
Registered User
 
tsujimoto74's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Virginia
Country: United States
Posts: 8,910
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by sabrescupbound View Post
Would this be going into somewhat of a rebuild mode?

I would do Hodgson, Leino, Leopold, Adam, Brennen, and a first for Thornton and Marleau

I know I'm gonna get crap for Leino but he would have to be included to make enough cap. That's also why I added Brennen. So 3 top prospects, A good Dman that they can release after next year if they wish, and Leino with a first. Great rebuild package if you ask me.
Terribad. If Buffalo wanted to try to compete now and the Sharks wanted to blow up their core and rebuild, the return for those players would have actually include some of our best prospects, not B listers like Adam and Brennan. (Think Grigorenko, Armia, Pysyk...Quality young players.)

That said, I'd rather wait it out with our kids and (hopefully, if enough pan out) be competitive for many years, rather than trade them for guys who might only have a few prime years left.

Edit: I think Buffalo and SJS could make good trade partners for a "shake up" trade if both teams decide they want to change the look of the team without blowing everything up though. Like maybe Vanek for Marleau? Maybe a small + either way if it needs to be evened out.

tsujimoto74 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-22-2012, 01:06 PM
  #16
DuckEatinShark
GET ALL THE PPs!!!!
 
DuckEatinShark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: San Jose
Posts: 5,423
vCash: 50
The return for Marleau would be a top line winger that can get us 35+ goals with Thornton. Preferably one with speed.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceonfire View Post
Hemsky, 1st 2013.
Value is close, but we need more goal-scorers than playmakers like Hemsky.

Quote:
Originally Posted by sabrescupbound View Post
I would do Hodgson, Leino, Leopold, Adam, Brennen, and a first for Thornton and Marleau
That's terrible. We aren't trading Thornton and if we are trading either of those two, we can get much better prospects and value for them.

For Marleau, Grigs would need be included. Then you would need to add a first and then some.

DuckEatinShark is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-22-2012, 02:17 PM
  #17
BigDmitriy
Registered User
 
BigDmitriy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: San Jose
Country: United States
Posts: 1,011
vCash: 500
Send a message via AIM to BigDmitriy Send a message via MSN to BigDmitriy Send a message via Yahoo to BigDmitriy
Quote:
Originally Posted by DuckEatinShark View Post

For Marleau, Grigs would need be included. Then you would need to add a first and then some.
Yeah, I'd do Marleau for Grigs, 1st, and Adam. Thoughts?

BigDmitriy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-22-2012, 02:24 PM
  #18
tsujimoto74
Registered User
 
tsujimoto74's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Virginia
Country: United States
Posts: 8,910
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDmitriy View Post
Yeah, I'd do Marleau for Grigs, 1st, and Adam. Thoughts?
I wouldn't. I'm personally very high on Grigs' potential and think Buffalo is better off hanging onto our prospects/young players.

I do like Marleau though. What would Sharks fans think about a shake-up trade, something around Vanek for Marleau?

tsujimoto74 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-22-2012, 02:42 PM
  #19
DuckEatinShark
GET ALL THE PPs!!!!
 
DuckEatinShark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: San Jose
Posts: 5,423
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by tsujimoto74 View Post
I wouldn't. I'm personally very high on Grigs' potential and think Buffalo is better off hanging onto our prospects/young players.

I do like Marleau though. What would Sharks fans think about a shake-up trade, something around Vanek for Marleau?
I prefer Marleau over Vanek. We need more team speed in our top 6. Only Marleau and Havlat are considered fast.

You'll need to add.

DuckEatinShark is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-22-2012, 03:02 PM
  #20
bobafettish*
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 5,961
vCash: 500
Probably something similar to what Jeff carter got

bobafettish* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-22-2012, 03:10 PM
  #21
tsujimoto74
Registered User
 
tsujimoto74's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Virginia
Country: United States
Posts: 8,910
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by DuckEatinShark View Post
I prefer Marleau over Vanek. We need more team speed in our top 6. Only Marleau and Havlat are considered fast.

You'll need to add.
Add what/how much?

tsujimoto74 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-22-2012, 03:14 PM
  #22
fedfed
Moderator
@FedFedRMNB
 
fedfed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Moscow City
Country: Russian Federation
Posts: 3,592
vCash: 500
Something around Marleau for Johansson?

fedfed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-22-2012, 04:54 PM
  #23
Nashology
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 810
vCash: 500
Marleau is a 2nd liner?

He has put up 30 + goals in 6 of the last 7 years.
He has averaged 34 goals a year over that 7 year span.
He has averaged 72pts a season over the last 7 years.
He is one of the fastest skaters in the game.

Nashology is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-22-2012, 05:02 PM
  #24
Zippy316
Registered User
 
Zippy316's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 3,980
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nashology View Post
Marleau is a 2nd liner?

He has put up 30 + goals in 6 of the last 7 years.
He has averaged 34 goals a year over that 7 year span.
He has averaged 72pts a season over the last 7 years.
He is one of the fastest skaters in the game.
The Sharks would want forwards, not defensemen for him right? If that's the case, I'm not even going to bother putting up a Devils proposal because they are terrible partners.

Zippy316 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-22-2012, 05:11 PM
  #25
Aceonfire
Las Vegas Aces
 
Aceonfire's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,093
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottyDont View Post
I don't know much about Hemsky, but on the surface he's had injuries and pretty poor numbers. Hemsky also isn't that young at 29. I think I'd want someone younger or more proven then this guy. And his salary hit seems way to high.

If he had more seasons like 200708 maybe, but as of right now, pass.
This trade wouldn't be a huge shocker at the deadline if Hemsky has a decent season and stays healthy. Hemsky as of now is in great shape. He had 8 points in 9 games at the Worlds. He also had his 1st NHL hat trick in one of the final games of the season. And at this point, he is younger than Havlat and probably healthier.

His salary also seems to be the going rate for top 6 forwards. Havlat is actually a good comparable.

Aceonfire is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:01 AM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2014 All Rights Reserved.