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09-16-2012, 03:05 AM
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Chi - Ana

Chicago
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2nd

Anaheim
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Hjarlmasson
Teravainen
1st

Sharp-Toews-Kane
Saad-Getzlaf-Hossa
Shaw-Bolland-Stalberg

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09-16-2012, 03:21 AM
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Good deal for both sides.

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09-16-2012, 03:56 AM
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Good deal for both sides.
Really, it isn't. It doesn't take into consideration any of Anaheim's needs. With this trade, Saku Koivu becomes the Ducks' top center. How exactly is that a good deal for Anaheim? Not saying the Chicago pieces are not good, because they are, but that trade would make the Ducks a worse team.

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09-16-2012, 04:00 AM
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Chicago
Getzlaf
2nd

Anaheim
Kruger
Hjarlmasson
Teravainen
1st

Sharp-Toews-Kane
Saad-Getzlaf-Hossa
Shaw-Bolland-Stalberg
Counter:

Chicago
Bonino
Sbisa
Rakell
1st

Anaheim
Toews
2nd

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09-16-2012, 04:41 AM
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Until Getzlaf says he wants out, a deal like this will be an easy no.

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09-16-2012, 04:54 AM
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Chicago
Bonino
Sbisa
Rakell
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Anaheim
Toews
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Getzlaf doesnt have anywhere near the same value as Toews would on his respective team.

More like your offer for Sharp/Kane

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09-16-2012, 05:03 AM
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Getzlaf doesnt have anywhere near the same value as Toews would on his respective team.

More like your offer for Sharp/Kane
False...Getzlaf is every bit as important to the Ducks as Toews is to the Hawks. Don't like the proposal and think it's off-base? Well, that's how I felt about the OP. (And probably how most Duck fans will feel) Whether you think Toews has more value than Getzlaf or not, it doesn't take away the fact that Getzlaf is an elite player in the league, is the Ducks captain and top playmaker, and would absolutely make the Ducks center depth brutal if he were traded away in the OP's scenario.

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09-16-2012, 05:52 AM
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No thanks.

Also lol @ thinking Getzlaf doesn't have as much value to Anaheim as Toews does to Chicago.

We literally have no-one to play center after Getzlaf ffs

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09-16-2012, 08:53 AM
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There should be a sticky about not offering D-men to Anaheim, unless you're willing to take a D-man back.

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Both teams need a #2 center, I don't think they would make good trading partners when they both desperately need the same thing.

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No thanks.

Also lol @ thinking Getzlaf doesn't have as much value to Anaheim as Toews does to Chicago.

We literally have no-one to play center after Getzlaf ffs
Honestly... you'd be tough pressed to find 2 players who are that close in value to their teams. Both are bonafide #1 centres. Both have quite poor centre depth where their 2nd best centre is more of a 3rd liner in Koivu and Bolland (Sharp IMO is a better winger).

In fact, I'd probably give the edge to Getzlaf in Anaheim, simply because Chicago has Sharp, and Kane who can play centre.

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09-16-2012, 10:33 AM
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False...Getzlaf is every bit as important to the Ducks as Toews is to the Hawks. Don't like the proposal and think it's off-base? Well, that's how I felt about the OP. (And probably how most Duck fans will feel) Whether you think Toews has more value than Getzlaf or not, it doesn't take away the fact that Getzlaf is an elite player in the league, is the Ducks captain and top playmaker, and would absolutely make the Ducks center depth brutal if he were traded away in the OP's scenario.
Ummmmm.... Getzlaf isn't even close to as good as Toews and he's not signed beyond this year. So how exactly is he as valuable? You do realize Toews actually plays behind his own blueline and shows up every night right? Getzlaf is very talented, maybe more talented than Toews, but his drive and effort are not existent at times.

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Ummmmm.... Getzlaf isn't even close to as good as Toews and he's not signed beyond this year. So how exactly is he as valuable? You do realize Toews actually plays behind his own blueline and shows up every night right? Getzlaf is very talented, maybe more talented than Toews, but his drive and effort are not existent at times.
Hockey, do you watch it?!?!

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Ummmmm.... Getzlaf isn't even close to as good as Toews and he's not signed beyond this year. So how exactly is he as valuable? You do realize Toews actually plays behind his own blueline and shows up every night right? Getzlaf is very talented, maybe more talented than Toews, but his drive and effort are not existent at times.
Agree about drive- I'm a fan of Getzlaf but when players phone it in that's a big pet peeve of mine- he does it a little more than I like.

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09-16-2012, 10:48 AM
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Chicago with Toews does not seem a likely destination where Getzlaf would want to sign after the season and hence not the team to make the best offer for him.

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Easy no from Anaheim.

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the ducks r lookings for a second center, why would they trade their #1 ?

so many trade that doesnt make sense on hfboard

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09-16-2012, 12:11 PM
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No reason for the Ducks to do this.

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09-16-2012, 01:03 PM
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getz will be signing with ducks once a new CBA is done, there was a article the other day that say's getz doesnt want to leave ana. (yeah i know its all talk until something is signed) but he has said this for a long time, in fact it not only quoted getz but his agent as well....its simple ducks CAN NOT lose getz just like chi. cant lose toews

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09-16-2012, 01:06 PM
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if the Ducks know for sure that Getz will not come back and will sign anywhere else, I don't see why they should agree to this. If he wants to go, this would get some considerations. Still think some minor tweaking would have to be made

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Ummmmm.... Getzlaf isn't even close to as good as Toews and he's not signed beyond this year. So how exactly is he as valuable? You do realize Toews actually plays behind his own blueline and shows up every night right? Getzlaf is very talented, maybe more talented than Toews, but his drive and effort are not existent at times.
Just because Toews may be better right now doesn't mean he is more valuable. Have you seen Anaheim's depth on center?

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09-16-2012, 01:14 PM
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Losing 1st line centre, not getting one in return. Easy no.

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Ummmmm.... Getzlaf isn't even close to as good as Toews and he's not signed beyond this year. So how exactly is he as valuable? You do realize Toews actually plays behind his own blueline and shows up every night right? Getzlaf is very talented, maybe more talented than Toews, but his drive and effort are not existent at times.
Maybe you should re-read a bit...you'd then realize I wasn't commenting as to who's the better player. I was reacting to a Chicago fan who claimed that Getzlaf doesn't have the same high value to the Ducks as Toews does to the Blackhawks. If you knew much about the Ducks, you'd realize how valuable he really is to them. Losing Getzlaf would hurt the Ducks moreso than the Hawks losing Toews simply because of their lack of depth. Their 'value' to their respective teams is pretty damn close.

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09-16-2012, 03:59 PM
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Your not getting the point. Toews is worth more to the hawks than Getzlaf is worth to the Ducks, this is why his name is being tossed around here and there, and you'll never see Toews like that, Kane/Getzlaf more comparable like it or not

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Your not getting the point. Toews is worth more to the hawks than Getzlaf is worth to the Ducks, this is why his name is being tossed around here and there, and you'll never see Toews like that, Kane/Getzlaf more comparable like it or not
You're the one not getting it - Anaheim has no center depth whatsoever, and their best 3C (Koivu) is likely in his last year with the team. If anything, Getzlaf is worth more because Chicago has better backup options at center.

The only reason Getzlaf's name is being tossed about is because he's entering his UFA year, the Ducks struggled last year and the GM said nobody was safe for the right price (misinterpreted by the HF hivemind as FREE PLAYERS - MAKE YOUR HORRIBLE OFFER HERE!!!!), and because Toronto fans have an unhealthy obsession with the big UFA players every year. Reverse the contract situations and team fortunes and Toews would be discussed every bit as much.

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