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10-24-2012, 11:11 AM
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New York Islanders relocating to Brooklyn 2015

http://islanders.nhl.com/club/news.h...id=DL|NYI|home

Obviously, no confirmed link in that one the press conference is at 1:00 PM today. But Twitter is abuzz with the relocation talk and I can re-post some of those here in a minute.

Interesting nonetheless, as Wang will play out two lame duck seasons in Nassau before the move. I really hope they announce some kind of seating expansion (if at all possible) at Barclays, as the hockey setup is only 14,500.

Perhaps this was the reason that the NHL told the NHLPA they would not meet today...


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Isles' moving announcement will be formally made at 1 pm ET at Barclays Center in Brooklyn.


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So the Isles never got their arena deal?

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So the Isles never got their arena deal?
Nope, they got screwed over left and right by the local government. If I still didn't have the bad taste in my mouth from the 'Long Island Brawl' a couple years ago, I'd be even happier for them.

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I like it. Fans can stay with 'em and they move in to a great stadium.

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That makes me sad though. A freaking dynasty just moved.

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They're only moving ~27 miles, and they're still on Long Island, but do you think they'll change their name to the Brooklyn Islanders? Their co-tenants are the Brooklyn Nets, so maybe they will just to go along with them/new identity?

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They're only moving ~27 miles, and they're still on Long Island, but do you think they'll change their name to the Brooklyn Islanders? Their co-tenants are the Brooklyn Nets, so maybe they will just to go along with them/new identity?
I agree with you here, CPZ17. The dynasty didn't move... this is the same thing as getting a new arena with a slight name change. They will be the Isles. They will still have those banners. They will still have the same fans. This isn't like a team moving from Canada to Phoenix. This is the same as if they started building a new arena and it just so happened to be 20 miles away from the old one.

edit: If anything - it preserves the dynasty.

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It will only be the same dynasty with the same logo, jersey and colors.

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They announced that everything else will stay the same.

As an Islanders fan, I'm really pleased with this. I'm surprised at the 25 year term, but this is more or less what I was hoping for.

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Smart business decision all around. Great stuff. Glad for you Isle fans. We know what it's like to possibly lose our team.

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This barely quantifies as a move. Brooklyn is still technically Long Island.

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It's not a mover just a relocation of stadia.

Brooklyn is on Long Island which is part of New York. They'll stay as the NYIslanders.

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So the Isles never got their arena deal?
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Nope, they got screwed over left and right by the local government. If I still didn't have the bad taste in my mouth from the 'Long Island Brawl' a couple years ago, I'd be even happier for them.
Nassau jerked Wang around for too long and got burned. Wang saw no way to a new building in Nassau. The Town of Hempstead wanted to make any project economically unviable.



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It's not a mover just a relocation of stadia.

Brooklyn is on Long Island which is part of New York. They'll stay as the NYIslanders.

Always and forever the NY Islanders. Name and colors stay. Although a new Brooklyn 3rd jersey will be nice.

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i'm no expert in cultural geography and most of the time i've spent in New York was in Manhattan but i think those dismissing the move as inconsequential are off-the-mark. yes, they'll always be the NY Islanders and in the grand scheme of things, not much changes, at least in so far as non Islander fans perceive the team, but there will be a palatable cultural impact (a truly positive one, i think). for those who are interested, there was a pretty good round-table discussion on the cultural impact of the Barclays Center on Brooklyn with Ratner/Prokhorov and Charlie Rose on a few weeks back.

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14,500 seats?

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14,500 seats?
I said the same thing. How is a team financially viable with 14,500 seats?

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And anyone know the number of luxury boxes?

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i'm no expert in cultural geography and most of the time i've spent in New York was in Manhattan but i think those dismissing the move as inconsequential are off-the-mark. yes, they'll always be the NY Islanders and in the grand scheme of things, not much changes, at least in so far as non Islander fans perceive the team, but there will be a palatable cultural impact (a truly positive one, i think). for those who are interested, there was a pretty good round-table discussion on the cultural impact of the Barclays Center on Brooklyn with Ratner/Prokhorov and Charlie Rose on a few weeks back.
A cultural change totally justified.

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After they brought up AHL thugs to try & injure our NHL players they could move to the middle of the Atlantic ocean for all I care.

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I said the same thing. How is a team financially viable with 14,500 seats?
I just read the Isles haven't averaged over 14,000 fans since 2002-03.

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I just read the Isles haven't averaged over 14,000 fans since 2002-03.
One would hope that they start doing well, and if they ever do, they are going to still be losing money.

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I said the same thing. How is a team financially viable with 14,500 seats?
Winnipeg only has 15,004. So it's possible.

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My family is composed of diehard Islander fans. They were so ecstatic yesterday. I couldn't be happier for them.

As to "moving" a dynasty, that's not how they see it. It's undoubtedly a HUGE step up to go into Brooklyn. Nassau sucks and is dying rapidly.

Besides, now I can see more games. I can take a rail line into Brooklyn, as opposed to driving a car into the middle of friggin' nowhere.

EDIT: And the capacity (supposedly) will be upped by 1,000 for hockey games. So 15,500 seats. Which is better for them. If they start doing well, it creates a demand, manufacturing sellouts and a good atmosphere.


In short, this is great, great news.

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Winnipeg only has 15,004. So it's possible.
In an arena they own while charging premium prices.

It's possible, but its hard to imagine the Islanders being truly prifitable by gate receipts alone...but that New York media contract goes a long way to change things.

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After they brought up AHL thugs to try & injure our NHL players they could move to the middle of the Atlantic ocean for all I care.
This.

Even with this new location, they'll still be irrelevant...who cares.

Plus I mean how big of a market will they really have in Brooklyn? My guess is a small small small one.

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