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10-04-2012, 04:28 PM
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I honestly thought that the league and NHLPA would not allow this to happen again. Figured that they had learned their lesson with much the game suffered after the last lock out. I know that the NHL has had a lot of success in the last 3-4 years, but this is a massive set back and I fear that it will hurt the league much more than the last lock out did. I am quite disappointed in both sides.
I think they realize that most hockey fans are pretty hardcore and will return. Like we mostly did last time around.

I think they'd be foolish to miss a while season again, not due to lost fans, but that they it will take a long time for them to recover the lost money, the owners eventually will over time, but the players likely won't.

Neither side seems willing to get a quick resolution, which I find most frustrating.

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I honestly thought that the league and NHLPA would not allow this to happen again. Figured that they had learned their lesson with much the game suffered after the last lock out. I know that the NHL has had a lot of success in the last 3-4 years, but this is a massive set back and I fear that it will hurt the league much more than the last lock out did. I am quite disappointed in both sides.
Great post and I agree.

I really thought they would get their act together . I started getting worried when some of the players signed up to play overseas. I figured they wouldn't do that if they expected the NHL to start up soon.

Hockey is therapy for me after a bad day at work . I am not pleased.

I will go to the 10/19 game in Manchester , NH but I don't have any $$$ (because the B's have it all ) so I can't do too much else . Maybe I will go to a couple of the town High School hockey games.

This really sucks.

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I think they realize that most hockey fans are pretty hardcore and will return. Like we mostly did last time around.

I think they'd be foolish to miss a while season again, not due to lost fans, but that they it will take a long time for them to recover the lost money, the owners eventually will over time, but the players likely won't.
Neither side seems willing to get a quick resolution, which I find most frustrating.
I agree and the players still have not got back what they lost last time.

Owners are in this for the long haul. Players are in this for the sort term. Tell me who cares about the long term stability of the NHL as a result of this.

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I honestly thought that the league and NHLPA would not allow this to happen again. Figured that they had learned their lesson with much the game suffered after the last lock out. I know that the NHL has had a lot of success in the last 3-4 years, but this is a massive set back and I fear that it will hurt the league much more than the last lock out did. I am quite disappointed in both sides.
Once you heard that the NHLPA had hired Donald Fehr, you knew what was coming would not be pleasant.

Two egomaniacs intent on destroying one another with the game and the fans held hostage.

A pox on all their houses.

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10-04-2012, 05:21 PM
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It will be interesting to see if there is any sense of urgency in either side now that actual money is being lost, or not made, how ever you want to call it.

A month salary for a guy like Chara has got to be close to a million bucks, no?

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10-04-2012, 06:00 PM
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NHL teams are not the main source of income for the owners. the NHL is basically the only true source of income for the players. if this drags on, I don't see the owners suffering anywhere near as much as those poor, underpaid players...

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10-04-2012, 06:06 PM
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So does this mean that when (if) the lockout ends they just pick up the schedule from where its left off or does the league create a whole new schedule no matter how many games are missed?

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10-04-2012, 06:39 PM
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Not surprised.

Now maybe real negotiations will start.

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So does this mean that when (if) the lockout ends they just pick up the schedule from where its left off or does the league create a whole new schedule no matter how many games are missed?
Who knows...probably revised schedule....especially since the Rangers started with the first 7 or 8 games on the road.

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If there is a season this year, I can't decide if the season is kind of ruined in a way for me that I'd be mad at everyone involved in the NHL for messing up again and I wouldn't be able to enjoy the games. Or if I'll just be happy the game is back.

More than likely the later.

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So does anyone know what happens in regards to player contracts? Does this year get knocked off their contract if the whole season isnt played?

Or does it not matter if they play or not, one year is one year.

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NHL teams are not the main source of income for the owners. the NHL is basically the only true source of income for the players. if this drags on, I don't see the owners suffering anywhere near as much as those poor, underpaid players...
I wonder if the irony of this post was appreciated by everyone else as much as me.

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10-05-2012, 05:22 AM
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Thoughts on a brutal day for the NHL: wish I had some good news for the "average people" (for lack of a better term) affected, but I don't.

I'd be shocked if any games were played before Nov. 15, and that's optimistic. If no games by Jan. 1, it's a worst-case scenario.

The players are so angry at the league right now the process needs a timeout. But, I do believe the biggest problem right now is they both want to test each other a little bit, see if the other side bends at all. That's going to take a little while.

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10-05-2012, 05:25 AM
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Seconded

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If there is a season this year, I can't decide if the season is kind of ruined in a way for me that I'd be mad at everyone involved in the NHL for messing up again and I wouldn't be able to enjoy the games. Or if I'll just be happy the game is back.

More than likely the later.
well with the NBA, I actually thought the truncated season was refreshing, regular season is too long. kind of the same with the NHL, I would be OK with missing 20% of the season (play 66 games or so instead of 16). any more and

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Yep.

A simple but complete statement.

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The November 12-15 (Monday-Thursday) is when this 'ride' gets interesting

this is like Splash Mountain- until that week probably alot of cool rabbits, bears, fox scenes along the way with some zippy do da, zippade-de....and then the good stuff

the deal will be done by the 15th. guaranteed

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**** you.

All of you.
I can undestand how the players feel to a degree ,but I have ZERO respect for some owners.I also have to say that Bettman will go down in history as the most disgraceful president of the NHL.The man that tried to distroy hockey to feed his own ego. IMO


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The players had the back of Fehr standing there, yet where are they? That's right. Overseas making money.


They dont give a damn about us. Its all about money. Millionaires arguing about millionaires. They haven't even seriously discussed the lockout. Otherwise this would be over with.

Both Bettman and Fehr need to gtfo. Enough is enough!

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The players had the back of Fehr standing there, yet where are they? That's right. Overseas making money.


They dont give a damn about us. Its all about money. Millionaires arguing about millionaires. They haven't even seriously discussed the lockout. Otherwise this would be over with.

Both Bettman and Fehr need to gtfo. Enough is enough!
I'm curious as to how much money you think the vast majority of these guys are making playing in places like Biel and Pardubice.

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I'm curious as to how much money you think the vast majority of these guys are making playing in places like Biel and Pardubice.
enough to feed thier dog I bet.

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