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11-17-2012, 06:02 PM
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Uh.... no.

NHL/NBC gets ad revenue based on their ratings. The better the ratings, the more money they get out of advertisements. Ratings are determined by Nielsen family viewership. I'm not part of a Nielsen family, therefore my viewership plays no role in their ratings. Ipso facto, me continuing to watch doesn't increase the NHL's bottom line in any way, shape, or form.

There's no way for the companies that sponsor the NHL to know that their partnership with the league/network has any noticeable impact on their bottom line either, other then logically assuming that the more people that see their ads during an NHL game, the more likely they are to get sales out of it. And me watching doesn't impact that, given the fact that they don't know if I'm watching or not regardless.
justify it however you want, but you're not boycotting anything.

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11-17-2012, 09:32 PM
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You're not going to get any Kings fan to stay away from opening night whenever it may be. They're going to be there to see the banner raised for the first time in franchise history and they're going to be there wearing all of the jerseys and Stanley Cup Champions merchandise they bought this summer.
Same could be said for the Coyotes, who will hoist a banner for winning the Pacific Division for the first time in franchise history. I, as a Coyotes fan, would love to be there for that, but I will not be attending a hockey game any time soon.

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11-18-2012, 04:34 PM
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spread the word. call your local sports talk radio stations. use Facebook. Twitter. everything you can:

DO NOT ATTEND THE NHL'S FIRST GAME BACK!!!!

this league has to be shown it must treat this sport with more respect. this is not the autoworkers union and Ford. hockey is a cultural institution and must not be played with like some tidbit little play thing for the nerd Bettman to win a battle against the super jocks.

DO NOT ATTEND THE NHL'S FIRST GAME BACK!!!!

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11-18-2012, 08:25 PM
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justify it however you want, but you're not boycotting anything.
I was going to spend money on the NHL the next couple years, but now I'm not. Specifically, I was planing on buying several Blackhawks tickets, getting a new white Kane sweater, a new hat, NHL 13, and obviously some other ancillary purchases that aren't planned ahead of time such as concessions at games. That means at least a few hundred dollars that was going to gladly go to the NHL, and specifically the Blackhawks as I was going to get the gear at the official Blackhawks store on Michigan Ave. or in the United Center itself, that they're not going to get now.

I don't get why you're not comprehending this. Me watching TV has zero impact on it as they have no way of knowing if I'm watching to begin with. If a significant chunk of NHL fans did the same thing as me, purchasing no tickets, no apparel, no videogames, the NHL's bottom line would hurt in a big way and they'd have a major incentive to try to prevent future lockouts. If fans just return, like enough probably will, then there will remain no incentive.

If fans want to organize a specific and targeted boycott against a couple of the NHL's sponsors, then I'd be on board there, too. Would love to see an organized response like that, a la Canadians boycotting Molson's products in response to Habs opposition to letting in the WHA teams in the 1970's.


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11-19-2012, 09:07 AM
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Want to End the NHL Lockout? Boycott the Sponsors

Itís the fans that create all this money. Sponsors support teams because they want your money. The owners and players want your money.

IF this is all about your money shouldnít you have a say in how these monkeys are dancing? All you have to do is figure out who owns your NHL team and which companies are their biggest sponsors. Keep it local or go from team to team, but if enough fans let enough powers that be know that you will be voicing your concern less on talk shows and more at their bank accounts this lock out should be over before you can blink!

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11-19-2012, 10:05 AM
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I've already made it clear to my family and girlfriend to not buy me any NHL gear this christmas and birthday (both in dec) and if they do I will be returning it. I always get some form of avs gear every year for xmas/bday, I've reiterated the fact to them that I will not accept any of it so don't waste their money.

I also travel to Denver a couple times a year with my good friend for Avs games, which we made a ritual out of, absolutely no chance of that this year. I'm done done done.

*#!^ the NHLPA, disband the union!!

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11-19-2012, 01:20 PM
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Instead of making STH's boycott games they have paid for why not try something like a sea of green for all opening games league wide? Green obviously reffering to the greed between both sides.

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I bought two tickets right away in the fall of 2005, when the last lockout ended. I won't do it again. Not for the entire year. No shirts, no jerseys, no LeafsTV. Nothing. I will watch as much as I can on CBC and the other broadcasters. But I won't spend a single red cent on the NHL. Not for a year.

I don't know why anyone would other then for important games. Banner raising, number retirements. Stuff like that. Then go home and stay there. Watch on TV. We have the best play-by-play and Colour Men in sports anyway. (Other then Pierre MacGuire)

I don't like going to Saturday night games in TOR anyway, I don't want to miss Hockey Night in Canada. I need me some Grapes.

There would be no greater show of protest by us then an empty MSG, Bell Center, ACC, or whatever the hell they call the rink in Philly these days.

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11-19-2012, 02:16 PM
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Don't attend for an entire season.

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11-19-2012, 02:19 PM
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For those attending NHL games when they do reach a deal, I like to see fans show their frustration by booing players non-stop for an entire game or even hurl monopoly money onto the ice during warmup. Do something to show your anger at the league and the players.

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With HD and the slew of games offered on TV, it'd be mighty easy not to spend a cent on the NHL this year.

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spread the word. call your local sports talk radio stations. use Facebook. Twitter. everything you can:

DO NOT ATTEND THE NHL'S FIRST GAME BACK!!!!

We just got a team again after 15 years. There's no way Winnipeg fans are boycotting anything.

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11-19-2012, 03:19 PM
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We just got a team again after 15 years. There's no way Winnipeg fans are boycotting anything.
Agreed. I'm spending $5000 on STs each year. When they start playing again I will be there ( or if not me... someone I sold the tickets to ). I don't like what is going on from both sides, but I'm sure not going to lose out of pocket just to sit at home and say " see.. I'm not at your game because I'm mad " .

I won't be spending any money on anything else NHL related, but I'm not going to punish myself to send a message that won't be heard any ways.

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11-19-2012, 03:22 PM
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You cute little fans think you matter with a little pretend boycott ahhhh that's sooo cute

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11-19-2012, 03:25 PM
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I've been planning to do this, with or without the majority.

**** the NHL and the players.

They won't be seeing a dime from me this year, that's for sure.

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11-19-2012, 03:47 PM
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I am surprised by anyone who thinks a boycott of actual games will work. However, a boycott of sponsors can be effective. Sponsors do not want their corporate images attached to controversial subject matters. When major sponsors start ending agreements, that will mean less income to the NHL and subsequently the players.

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11-19-2012, 03:55 PM
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What I think would be really cool is a one game boycott opening night whenever it is to see 30 nhl arenas empty would be amazing.
i wish this would happen.

Like i said, if they save the season, all bets are off for me.
But if they completely cancel, I would def be up for any type of boycott.
Bruins season ticket holder by the way since 98

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11-19-2012, 03:58 PM
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I am surprised by anyone who thinks a boycott of actual games will work. However, a boycott of sponsors can be effective. Sponsors do not want their corporate images attached to controversial subject matters. When major sponsors start ending agreements, that will mean less income to the NHL and subsequently the players.
the boycott of game will just make the teams play in an empty rink.
Im talking 500 fans tops. That would be perfect. All these nhl players have huge egos, this would kill the game for them.

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11-19-2012, 03:59 PM
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Want to End the NHL Lockout? Boycott the Sponsors

Itís the fans that create all this money. Sponsors support teams because they want your money. The owners and players want your money.

IF this is all about your money shouldnít you have a say in how these monkeys are dancing? All you have to do is figure out who owns your NHL team and which companies are their biggest sponsors. Keep it local or go from team to team, but if enough fans let enough powers that be know that you will be voicing your concern less on talk shows and more at their bank accounts this lock out should be over before you can blink!
With Viagra and beer sponsoring hockey, what do you expect us to do?

 
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We just got a team again after 15 years. There's no way Winnipeg fans are boycotting anything.
well, i suppose i can give fans in the 'peg a little slack. but, elsewhere, one game? come on guys.

it won't matter if they gas the whole season. i believe the damage will be significant without any boycott.

they won't be getting a direct cent out me if that happens. other than watching local cable and the CBC, my support will disappear. Yes, i know that does support the league as well, but it is between $500 and $1000 a year less than usual. And i was all set to buy a new Taylor Hall jersey and attend probably 7-10 games this year.

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I am surprised by anyone who thinks a boycott of actual games will work.
Worked pretty damn well for Major League Baseball fans. Went from being the most labor contentious league to the one with the longest labor peace due to the still-existing fear that both players and owners have of facing another fan revolt.

Granted, somewhat easier to split a pie as large as MLB's than split a pie the size of the NHL's, but still talking arguments over billions of dollars.

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Worked pretty damn well for Major League Baseball fans. Went from being the most labor contentious league to the one with the longest labor peace due to the still-existing fear that both players and owners have of facing another fan revolt.

Granted, somewhat easier to split a pie as large as MLB's than split a pie the size of the NHL's, but still talking arguments over billions of dollars.
That has nothing to do with fans....

MLB still is at about the same Fan base it had in the 1990's.

The only reason MLB has labor peace is; teams like the A's , Tampa, KC's of the world are more than happy to take the Yankee's/Redsox's
30 million luxury Tax checks, to fund their 30 million dollar payroll's. That coupled with T.V. money , there is not a single owner in MLB losing money.

If MLB had a salary floor, there would be a labor battle every CBA.

If MLB made the cheap owners spend 60 to 80 million a year, there would be a lockout every single CBA.

The last World Series was the lowest rated WS in about Two decades.

Baseball has problems just like the NHL does.


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11-20-2012, 01:38 PM
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Not really. All you're really saying is that the owners in baseball created a model they were happier with than the NHL. The existence of massive national and local TV deals certainly helps, but since when was the average businessman happy with their current profits and not thinking about how much more they could get out from their employees?

If they thought that they could get away with it, like how the NHL clearly still thinks they can, I'm sure they'd be pushing for much more back from the players, too.

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I have wanted a way to send them a message as well, I know a petition and such really does not do much in effect, but hurting there wallet will, I once bought a 125.00 pair of Ray Bans some years ago the tip of one of them kept falling off, if you spend that much money you would figure that you would not get a piece of crap, I wrote to them saying the glasses were defective and the place I bought them was 300 miles away for a return. They of course did not help. I got lucky and a friend of mine was heading to the area I bought them, he returned them, I got my money back, and I got the return slip. I made a copy of the return and sent it too them with a letter saying I would never buy one of there products again. Two weeks later a note of apology and a brand new pair of glasses were sent to me.
A couple weeks ago I Bought a Bruins hat. Still have the receipt, buy something then return it send the return slip to somebodys protest website. I cannot think of a better way to nail them were it hurts the most. Show stacks of jerseys and stuff and bag them chuck them in the garbage show them what they are doing is wrong, if we can get a website to show all the stuff and someone get the NHLs attention I bet will will get there attention

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Not really. All you're really saying is that the owners in baseball created a model they were happier with than the NHL. The existence of massive national and local TV deals certainly helps, but since when was the average businessman happy with their current profits and not thinking about how much more they could get out from their employees?

If they thought that they could get away with it, like how the NHL clearly still thinks they can, I'm sure they'd be pushing for much more back from the players, too.
The Pirates have had a losing season for 20 years now..... That owner is more than happy to pocket 40+ million a year , while providing a crap product on the field that people STILL pay to see.

You would a complete idiot in MLB to spend on your team, when people will pay to see it anyway.

The owners in MLB have found out the dirty dark secret of Baseball.

It's America's past time, you don't have to win in MLB to make money.

So why would you spend money ? when you make money for simple doing nothing(but going through the motions).

Also in MLB if you spend a certain amount of money, you get bumped out of the (welfare) Luxary tax bracket....

You would be crazy not to let the Yankee's/Redsox's pay for your payroll.

The Oakland A's have had a payroll over 70 million ONCE in the last DECADE. The same can be said for about 15 teams in MLB.

So don't give me that crud about MLB being scared of fan backlash.
It has everything to do with MLB providing a system that makes EVERY owner money... Why do you think every High priced player ends up on Big money teams ? Cause they know their small market owner is not going to pay them...

MLB is the worst system to try to emulate or follow.


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