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10-21-2012, 01:11 PM
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The problem with that analysis is that Asham and Rupp have been regular game in--game out NHL players for years because they find ways to fit into roles that teams do need. No argument that Gilroy is more talented and a better skater but he's also 28 years old and hasn't established himself after 3 years knocking around 3 teams and back to the Rangers. Part of the problem is he's about as soft as it gets for a defenseman. Part of the problem is his frequency of getting caught in the gray area between attacking and defending which means he doesn't read plays well. Part of the problem is that even as gifted as a skater, passer with good offensive instincts he hasn't produced much offense. Lee Baldwin can skate and pass very well too--think is another thing. Gilroy's hockey sense has some holes.
I agree with this.... Poor defensive instincts and his age seems to suggest that what you see is what you will get from him - which isn't much.

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10-21-2012, 01:39 PM
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I'm not a good communicator there wolfgaze all the better was solely intended for getting out of the Wade Redden mess.

Missing this season is tough. It's NFL Network and not much else going on.

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10-21-2012, 01:58 PM
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I'm not a good communicator there wolfgaze all the better was solely intended for getting out of the Wade Redden mess.

Missing this season is tough. It's NFL Network and not much else going on.
Yeah it stinks... I don't dwell on it too much but hockey is the only professional sport that I follow and I am supremely passionate about the team.... Also anxious to attend some games so I can experience the new renovations (I sit in the 400's). I feel like I have a lot more to look forward to when hockey is in season.

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10-22-2012, 08:14 AM
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The problem with that analysis is that Asham and Rupp have been regular game in--game out NHL players for years because they find ways to fit into roles that teams do need. No argument that Gilroy is more talented and a better skater but he's also 28 years old and hasn't established himself after 3 years knocking around 3 teams and back to the Rangers. Part of the problem is he's about as soft as it gets for a defenseman. Part of the problem is his frequency of getting caught in the gray area between attacking and defending which means he doesn't read plays well. Part of the problem is that even as gifted as a skater, passer with good offensive instincts he hasn't produced much offense. Lee Baldwin can skate and pass very well too--think is another thing. Gilroy's hockey sense has some holes.
Like i said, imperfect players that are cheap, and can fill roles.

Rupp and Asham had been able to fill a role in the league, and then they grew older and their contracts inflated, and the CBA expired, and the cap is going to drop 10 million.

Guy who do not produce and are there to forecheck for 5 minutes ATOI, don't need to be paid the way Rupp and Asham are. And can't be if you want top line players on the top lines and if you want top four defensemen in the top four and if you want a #1 goaltender as your #1.

Cheap, adequate, and versatile players in the bottom roles of the lineup is how teams will have to operate moving forward.

Gilroy has deficiencies. But 11 SOG, 2 G, 3 Pts in 3 games.

He can be effective when used right. Dont put him with Redden and Del Zotto (like he was). Put him with Staal and let him skate the puck up the ice.

The Rangers can't afford to waste cap space on the Rupps and Ashams, 3.5 millon of it, when literally the entire roster needs new contracts within two years.

Haley (600k) can fill the role Asham (1m) does.

Bickel (750k) can fill a 4th line wing role. Rupp (1.5m).

You're paying 3.5 million for a combined 9 goals (Rupp and Asham) and for 5 minutes of ATOI forechecking.

Or you can bring in a kid from Hartford.

When the last lockout broke. We had a fourth line of Hollweg, Betts, Ortmeyer. Two of our top penalty killers. And all three could skate. And all three were dirt cheap.

No more overspending on Rupps and Ashams. Cant happen.

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10-22-2012, 08:44 AM
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I know many people here were not able to see him in TB but when Gilroy was partnered with Brewer he actually played pretty well. He was using his skating A LOT more and he complimented the slow-footed physical style of Brewer and it helped to settle Gilroy down as well.

He is a more than adequate depth defenseman. I would go as far as to say he is a more than adequate #6 defenseman. If an upgrade is necessary than make a trade for a player at the deadline to increase depth.

He is playing on a mess of a team with no real compliment to his game and he has 3 points in 3 games playing in front of rookie goalies.

On the topic of Jean, I am more than intrigued. I am hoping both he and Hrivik can have good seasons this year and continue taking the necessary steps forward. So far so good for the big guy.

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10-23-2012, 02:48 PM
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Is Brendan Shanahan making these decisions?

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10-23-2012, 02:48 PM
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Kreider suspended one game for boarding.

Great, now I won't even see him on Friday! Haha.

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10-23-2012, 03:01 PM
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Just saw the video (1:45 mark) of the hit. That wasn't suspension worthy!

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10-23-2012, 03:07 PM
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League screwing over the baby Rangers, nothing new. Move along.

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10-23-2012, 03:08 PM
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That wasn't much, he was trying to shoulder him off into the boards and the guy was trying to reverse the puck. Fine with a penalty but that's pretty lame for a suspension

The Whale play tomorrow so he should be back in the lineup on Friday

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10-23-2012, 03:10 PM
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Kreider isn't even a dirty player. But figures he gets a suspension.

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10-23-2012, 03:14 PM
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Didn't think the hit warranted a suspension. Oh well.

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pretty funny that he got a suspension for that. nothing dirty about it at all. he goes in for a shoulder check and the guy turns into the boards completely reversing the direction of the hit. pretty insane. can't wait to see what his first big boys suspension is for. guaranteed it's not much worse than that.

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10-23-2012, 03:42 PM
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Kreider isn't even a dirty player. But figures he gets a suspension.
if he was playing for the Rangers, he would have gotten 3 games like Hagelin....

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10-23-2012, 04:15 PM
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That wasn't much, he was trying to shoulder him off into the boards and the guy was trying to reverse the puck. Fine with a penalty but that's pretty lame for a suspension

The Whale play tomorrow so he should be back in the lineup on Friday
Just noticed the Whale play Wednesday. Phew...get to see him.

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10-23-2012, 04:17 PM
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not sure how anyone can claim that wasnt a bad hit

it was a stupid and reckless play

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10-23-2012, 05:56 PM
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not sure how anyone can claim that wasnt a bad hit

it was a stupid and reckless play
It was a borderline hit that happened in a split second, he didnt line the guy up and nail him from behind.

The major and game misconduct was more then enough, a game suspension for that is complete overkill. Especially to a player who has no history of reckless hits.

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10-23-2012, 06:29 PM
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When he comes back from his suspension it's time to start finding the back of the net.

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10-24-2012, 12:58 PM
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First episode of Thomas and McIlrath is up.

"never bring Chris Kreider grocery shopping. He won't get anything with more than 5 calories"

http://blueshirtsunited.com/videos/2...thomas-insider

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G Scott Stajcer reassigned to Greenville (ECHL)
http://www.ctwhale.com/news/detail/s...-to-greenville

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Anyone know where to find a feed for tonight?

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First episode of Thomas and McIlrath is up.

"never bring Chris Kreider grocery shopping. He won't get anything with more than 5 calories"

http://blueshirtsunited.com/videos/2...thomas-insider
I guess those 3 are living together. Pretty awesome.

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Feed for tonights Albany/Connecticut game has shown up on atdhenet.tv, for any who are interested in watching it.

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Feed for tonights Albany/Connecticut game has shown up on atdhenet.tv, for any who are interested in watching it.
It this feed working for anyone? I'm just getting bars.

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Whale down 1-0. Albany's goalie and NJ prospect Keith Kinkaid looks even better than last year... NJ has a gem in him.

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