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05-10-2013, 12:15 AM
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What Avder said.

I'm not even upset...It was inevitable.

We will all hope MN get's a 1st back and if not gets like 3 second rounders and picks up a few Larsons and Zuckers. Except pure goal scorers.

I just want goal scorers.

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05-10-2013, 01:41 AM
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Package-deal involving Seto and someone, for a 1st and maybe a 2nd/3rd

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05-10-2013, 04:54 AM
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I think the way Cal has played is making him worthy of a late 1st round pick. He brought the physical edge and played pretty well considering the team was up and won. One has to hope that a better coach can see the value of him there.

Besides that, I don't think getting rid of Seto is the right move at the time, we have a bit of flux as to who our 2nd line center will be. I think I want to keep Seto.

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05-10-2013, 09:07 AM
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Oh god, no thank you.
As a later round pick, why not? Cammaratta can flat out score. Watch the kid next season with the Gophers and you'll see what I mean. I may be a little biased as I've been watching him since he was Bantam age (he played with my son in the Advanced 15 camp a few years back).

His style of play is similar to Kane's.

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I think the way Cal has played is making him worthy of a late 1st round pick. He brought the physical edge and played pretty well considering the team was up and won. One has to hope that a better coach can see the value of him there.

Besides that, I don't think getting rid of Seto is the right move at the time, we have a bit of flux as to who our 2nd line center will be. I think I want to keep Seto.
At the end of the day, Clutterbuck was playing on the 4th line on a team that got knocked out of the playoffs in the first round.

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05-10-2013, 10:47 AM
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If we lose Cal who is going to bring a physical edge?
Konpoka only fights.
Rupp sure can't catch anyone to hit them, and he isn't getting any younger.
From what I hear, Bulmer still isn't ready.

Like most people I love Clutter, he is a fan favorite. Yes, he does take some dumb penalties and shoots high and wide almost everytime.(He was better the last few weeks) but he brings something to the team that we need, we don't have anyone else to play that role and I think he is more valuable to us than we think. Just my opinion.

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05-10-2013, 10:56 AM
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Clutter didn't bring the physicality until the playoffs.

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05-10-2013, 11:01 AM
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Clutter didn't bring the physicality until the playoffs.
Indeed he was inconsistently physical. I think he tried to change his game this season and it didn't work out for him. Old Cal was a boss. Nonetheless he was our only physical player in the po's and without him we have no one.

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05-10-2013, 11:31 AM
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Clutterbuck appears to be getting more injury prone the older he gets, and this is no surprise given his play style. He is also wildy inconsistent, and didnt do a damned thing all year, until just a couple weeks ago. I also guarantee you he would not maintain this if we were to advance a round or two.

His best years are behind him.

He is one of the more replacable parts, and he is also a player who will probably bring a decent return.

Trade his ass. We already have a logjam of rookies needing space on our roster.

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05-10-2013, 11:39 AM
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Honestly, with how obviously little the East watched the West this year outside of the playoffs, it would not surprise me if a lot of GMs in the East did not watch the Wild before the last few weeks here.

Clutterbuck could definitely still fetch a low 1st from some of those teams. I'd make that trade. Mitchell deserves to be on the 3rd line.

EDIT: I just went ahead and made a Value Of: Cal Clutterbuck thread. Anybody can check it out.


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05-10-2013, 12:09 PM
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As a later round pick, why not? Cammaratta can flat out score. Watch the kid next season with the Gophers and you'll see what I mean. I may be a little biased as I've been watching him since he was Bantam age (he played with my son in the Advanced 15 camp a few years back).

His style of play is similar to Kane's.
As a later round pick, fine, but I'd rather not take the chance that he can translate to the NHL with how small he is.

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05-10-2013, 12:11 PM
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As a later round pick, fine, but I'd rather not take the chance that he can translate to the NHL with how small he is.
Ya **** that. We need some BIG scorers. I have seen enough Bouchards, Grandlunds, Spurgeon get pushed around. No thanks

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With a late-round pick, we could get another Coyle... Or another Phillips. It's really a toss-up.

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**** no to another tiny guy. Sorry.

There's only 1 St. Louis, and he is far from the norm.

I think every team can hide 1-2 small, skilled guys and be ok, but we have more than our share at this point.

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**** no to another tiny guy. Sorry.

There's only 1 St. Louis, and he is far from the norm.

I think every team can hide 1-2 small, skilled guys and be ok, but we have more than our share at this point.
Define who is small. PMB won't be back. Spurgeon might not even be back. Parise is smaller but plays big. Pominville?

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05-10-2013, 12:49 PM
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Bouchard won't be back, which is fine.

I would like to NOT see Spurgeon back. For so many reasons, I am just not a fan...

Granlund is on the smallish side, but he is at least fairly stocky.

Zucker is on the smaller side. I like Zucker, but would not want too many players with his size.

Especially for the style of hockey that this Yeo guy wants to play, unless you're 6'4 and 220, you're going to have problems.

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05-10-2013, 12:51 PM
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Bouchard won't be back, which is fine.

I would like to NOT see Spurgeon back. For so many reasons, I am just not a fan...

Granlund is on the smallish side, but he is at least fairly stocky.

Zucker is on the smaller side. I like Zucker, but would not want too many players with his size.

Especially for the style of hockey that this Yeo guy wants to play, unless you're 6'4 and 220, you're going to have problems.
I had forgotten about Zucker. So it's safe to say there will be at least 2 smaller players on the team next year.

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05-10-2013, 10:53 PM
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with all this "PMB wont be back" who takes his spot then? trade or FA? heatley sure is heck not getting back in the lineup.

Is it time for JF (justin fontaine) on the 3rd line? take over PMB's spot. leggo

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with all this "PMB wont be back" who takes his spot then? trade or FA? heatley sure is heck not getting back in the lineup.

Is it time for JF (justin fontaine) on the 3rd line? take over PMB's spot. leggo
I could see them re-signing Cullen as the no. 2 center and having Granlund take Butch's spot on the 3rd line LW. I think most of us would agree that Granlund looked better on the wing than he did at center anyway.

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Bouchard won't be back, which is fine.

I would like to NOT see Spurgeon back. For so many reasons, I am just not a fan...
Name a cheaper D-man who could replace his offensive production and value on PP.

Go ahead, I'll give you time.





Exactly. And that's why he'll be back. Besides, he's still got a ton of upside.

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Name a cheaper D-man who could replace his offensive production and value on PP.

Go ahead, I'll give you time.





Exactly. And that's why he'll be back. Besides, he's still got a ton of upside.
Pominville. Or hell, try Koivu there. Or Brodin.

Or, I would actually be fine with him on the PP, but that would be it. He sucks on D.

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Pominville. Or hell, try Koivu there. Or Brodin.

Or, I would actually be fine with him on the PP, but that would be it. He sucks on D.
D-MAN, GOD DAMNIT.

Brodin is already on 2nd PP, and he's a lefty. We need Spurgeon, because he's a right-handed offensive D-man, brilliant on the PP and brings good puck skills and offensive flair. Plus he can actually carry the puck up ice if required.

True, he might not be a defensive stalwart but he isn't as bad as some say on D.

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Our PP has royally sucked for two years now. Something needs to drastically change, and the personnel on it should at least be looked at and played around with.

Pominville is a strong 2-way forward. I would look into rolling with four forwards and 1d, at least on the first unit.

I'll give that Spurgeon can be more creative on the PP than some of our forwards, some times, but I watch a lot of different teams, and in no way has he ever stood out to me as someone who is that gifted. MAB was far better.

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Our PP has royally sucked for two years now. Something needs to drastically change, and the personnel on it should at least be looked at and played around with.
I think the problem is the PP strategy, pure and simple

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I think "strategy" is being overly generous when referring to our PP.

It is also why I hope Sydor is getting fitted with cement boots and dropped in the damned river.

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