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05-23-2013, 04:27 PM
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Really small? He's close to Granlund's size, possibly even a little bigger. He's also a good skater and good at scoring goals. Anyway, he'll probably go on the 2nd or 3rd round. I've heard scouts have very differing opinions of him, which makes it very difficult to predict when he's going to get picked. If someone thinks highly enough of him, he could even be a late 1st round pick. His concussion issues from this season and his overall lack of self-preservation instinct on the ice bring even more insecurity on his status in the draft. The potential for a 2nd line scoring winger is there, but he needs to bulk up a hell of a lot if he's going to play the way he does with that smallish frame of his.
It could be that playing style that makes him look even smaller.

I really like more conditioned prospects from this draft, most Finns are not very athletic.

We need a more professional development system created in Finland, we are still falling behind.

I would like to see info from NHL combines comparing prospects by nation.

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3rd round (hopefully)

oliver bjorkstrand. portland winterhawks
will butcher usa-18 or keaton thompson
Late 2nd, mid 3rd my guess for Bjorkstrand, but I honestly would not be comfortable drafting him. He has got the offensive upside to be drafted early but lacks the size to make myself feel comfortable on spending a pick on him that is in the top 90.

Great speed, great shot, great worker. But he lacks tons of strength and can easily be overpowered, which limits his effectiveness when he isn't on the offensive rush.

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Really small? He's close to Granlund's size, possibly even a little bigger. He's also a good skater and good at scoring goals. Anyway, he'll probably go on the 2nd or 3rd round. I've heard scouts have very differing opinions of him, which makes it very difficult to predict when he's going to get picked. If someone thinks highly enough of him, he could even be a late 1st round pick. His concussion issues from this season and his overall lack of self-preservation instinct on the ice bring even more insecurity on his status in the draft. The potential for a 2nd line scoring winger is there, but he needs to bulk up a hell of a lot if he's going to play the way he does with that smallish frame of his.
He is listed smaller. 5-9 and 163lbs. None of us were scared about Granlund because he had an impressive 180lbs on him, but even that doesn't seem enough as this season made apparent.

He's a smart player but isn't exactly speedy or elusive or strong; three things that are key for players to create their owns space. Still, what he's doing in the men's league at his age can't be ignored and in this draft where offensive potential starts to diminish around the end of the 1st, Lehkonen might be valued at around mid 2nd round.

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He is listed smaller. 5-9
Outdated info, he's at least 5'10.5.

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My only guess as to how we end up with Zadarov is if he falls to 20's and we trade up.

Because all i've seen is he's going top 15

Fallen alot on TSN final rankings

22 among NA skaters

So im hoping that means we have a shot

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Ian mcCoshen in the 2nd? maybe we can get tom vannelli in the 3rd round. lets stock up on defense.
This reminds me - FRB prospect scouting profiles on Connor Hurley and Tommy Vannelli.

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This reminds me - FRB prospect scouting profiles on Connor Hurley and Tommy Vannelli.
and as of tonight...Avery Peterson of Grand Rapids.

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So who in the 2nd round would be interesting and help us out the most? Any ideas Dan or FRB? You guys seem to know the most when it comes to this subject.

Actually on FRB I'm going to do a bunch of profiles of guys who should be there at 46, many of which are in my region this year.

Alot of Minnesotans actually.

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Ian mcCoshen in the 2nd? maybe we can get tom vannelli in the 3rd round. lets stock up on defense.

We don't want McCoshen.

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We don't want McCoshen.
Can you please explain why not?

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Outdated info, he's at least 5'10.5.
But his weight? That was my main point and you sort of edited that out...

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Can you please explain why not?
IMO there are better options with our second round pick. McCoshen looks like a solid defenseman but some question his ultimate upside. There are a few others I just rather spend my pick on.

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But his weight? That was my main point and you sort of edited that out...
Thing is if he's 5'10.5 or close to 5'11 he can add the weight on as he develops. We're not drafting a guy to play top 6 next year we're drafting a guy to play in 2-4 years as he grows. By the time he's 21 he could be 5'10.5ish and 190lbs. Size concerns IMHO should be limited to height as that is hard to change unless you have a unexpected growth spurt, weight is not hard to change tho.

I'm down for an all "one of us" draft

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Lehkonen reminds me A LOT of Jason Zucker. And that's not a bad thing. Too bad we already have... Well, Jason Zucker.

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I always think of Minny when I think of Oliver Bjorkstrand.

His father is from Minneapolis, and Oliver supports the Wild big-time. He still has a lot of Family in Minnesota, so I guess this would be a dream for the kid.

Todd Bjorkstrand His father

Oliver in the Minny cap.



I don't think he will slip to 3rd, no matter how small he is.

Honest to god, when I say some pro-scouts have him as a 1st round talent, I can dig up a few threads if you wish.

His size however will make him fall to early - mid second. Most see him going there aswell.

Although I have heard that his size, isn't stopping him from going to the dirty areas, and that he is pretty evasive

You just have to follow the Mem-cup or have watched the WHL playoffs to know that his size isn't hindering him to much.
He has stated in several interviews though, that he is well aware that size is his biggest weakness, and that he is going to hit the gym all summer.

His interim coach in Portland Travis Green, said on TSN Draftwatch that he sees Bjork becoming a back 2 back 50 goal scorer in the WHL when he takes over 1st line duties from Rattie.

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I always think of Minny when I think of Oliver Bjorkstrand.

His father is from Minneapolis, and Oliver supports the Wild big-time. He still has a lot of Family in Minnesota, so I guess this would be a dream for the kid.

Todd Bjorkstrand His father

Oliver in the Minny cap.

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I don't think he will slip to 3rd, no matter how small he is.

Honest to god, when I say some pro-scouts have him as a 1st round talent, I can dig up a few threads if you wish.

His size however will make him fall to early - mid second. Most see him going there aswell.

Although I have heard that his size, isn't stopping him from going to the dirty areas, and that he is pretty evasive

You just have to follow the Mem-cup or have watched the WHL playoffs to know that his size isn't hindering him to much.
He has stated in several interviews though, that he is well aware that size is his biggest weakness, and that he is going to hit the gym all summer.

His interim coach in Portland Travis Green, said on TSN Draftwatch that he sees Bjork becoming a back 2 back 50 goal scorer in the WHL when he takes over 1st line duties from Rattie.

If you guys need to know more, or want me to piss on off, just let me know
Seems to be a RW? Interesting, to say the least. We don't have many of them in the system now. I'd personally rather them go center or defender in the 2nd round, but if we chose him I wouldn't be disappointed.

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I would like to see them reach for a boom or bust player with a high ceiling. No more tweeners.

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I would like to see them reach for a boom or bust player with a high ceiling. No more tweeners.
Imo, Bjork is a boom or bust player at NHL level..

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He is listed smaller. 5-9 and 163lbs. None of us were scared about Granlund because he had an impressive 180lbs on him, but even that doesn't seem enough as this season made apparent.

He's a smart player but isn't exactly speedy or elusive or strong; three things that are key for players to create their owns space. Still, what he's doing in the men's league at his age can't be ignored and in this draft where offensive potential starts to diminish around the end of the 1st, Lehkonen might be valued at around mid 2nd round.
Like Haite said, I believe those measurements are outdated, at least the height. He's skinny as a toothpick, which is his biggest problem. Granlund is naturally more heavily built, but from what I've heard, Lehkonen hasn't made an attempt to gain mass because his father (a hockey coach) has wanted him to focus on other things. For the kid's own sake I hope that changes soon because I don't want to see him flying around like a dishrag and getting concussed again. Either that or he needs to be more careful on the ice, which would have a negative effect on his overall game.

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The Wild need power forwards.
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So you natives, tell us rest about Hurley? Nice passes, good hands, pretty fast and even a few hits.


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So you natives, tell us rest about Hurley? Nice passes, good hands, pretty fast and even a few hits.


Huzzah!

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Can you please explain why not?
Because he's all resume and little upside. It's my belief that if people like him, they've never seen him play. They see the size, the numbers (which lack context because of who else plays for Waterloo), the int'l experience, and the three years in the USHL.

I wrote this in a different thread

I got 7-9 defensemen ahead of him on my list, and McCoshen is in my region.

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