Geneva won 8-1. Couture with 4 points (2 goals 2 assists). 1st star and at least a +4 .
Thornton 1goal 1 assist on Rick Nash goal. Game in OT at the moment
I am a Niner Faithful, so yes we do have something to entertain us (And even other teams in other sports), but my #1 team is the Sharks. I live, eat and breathe San Jose Sharks hockey. Them not playing bugs me. It killed me in 04-05, and will kill me now until this is done.
Also, I'm a fan of NHL hockey. It will be even worse than 04-05 if this season is lost because the post lockout era has had a lot of great hockey and seen this sport grow in the US, especially with the Winter Classic. Sure not as much as I would like, but still better than where we were in the 03-04 season, for example. Those gains are going to be lost if a season is gone. Somebody needs to cave in...NOW.
losing a 2nd season in 10 years is an absolute joke, im furious that this league is so poorly run. these lockouts have killed off TWO years in our window, and this year was especially critical because we are already hitting our down-cycle. but like i said there are huge huge structural issues with the revenue distribution in the league and the lack of big TV contracts really kills poor teams. anyway im resigned to this season getting blown up i have very low expectations that the two sides will figure it out.
After 33 minutes of play Couture has 4 goals (2g 2a) (Geneva is winning 5-1 for the moment). This is his first really good game! He's playing better and better
I've watched plenty of football in my life, boring as hell. WAY too much milling around.
Basketball would be fine if it wasn't for the basketball players attitudes and fouls every 3.5 seconds.
Soccer too much crying.
Baseball, enjoy it live, can't stand watching it on tv.
I like a lot of winter sports for some reason. Skiing, Hockey, Snowboarding, etc.. Only team sport I enjoy watching is Hockey, and I'm pretty satisfied i've given the alternatives as much as a chance as necessary.
Also, my Dad is a HUGE Tennis fan, and good lord is that a terrible sport to watch. uhg.
"Players are on the same page," Clowe told ESPN.com Wednesday. "No one’s cracking. We’re informed and updated and guys have a good understanding of what’s going on. ...
"We’re hockey players," he added. "We’re not going to get pushed around."
Of particular irritation to Clowe has been the league’s proposals, which would call for the players to pay more escrow as their share of hockey-related revenue drops in any new agreement.
In Clowe's mind, the signing of a whole slew of players to contracts before the lockout was an obvious attempt by owners to get a shave back from those new deals in player escrow.
"The way I see it, if Shea Weber or Ryan Suter or Zach Parise signed those big deals in July and then arrived at training camp and said, 'We’re not playing until we get 20 percent more on our contract,' there would be an uproar," said Clowe. "The owners would say, 'No chance.’ Well, it’s the same thing. Contracts have been signed, both the owners and the players have signed these contracts. Now they’re trying to take whatever percentage off the top? It’s all about principle. It’s a handshake and an agreement. Why did all these owners rush to sign all these players before the lockout?"
Even if it's very unfortunate there's no games at the moment and hopefully there's going to be a solution some day during this season, at least my favourite team in the Finnish SM-liiga, Kärpät, got a good defender as Jason Demers came to Oulu. One of their most important defenders Oscar Eklund (from Sweden) will miss quite a lot of games because of knee injury. At least he won't play this year, my optimistic guess is he may be back in January. Demers has been a big help for Kärpät. By the way here is Demers' first goal in Finland:
I do miss hockey but honestly the less I think about the season being lost the less I care.We are lucky in the bay area because we still have baseball ,football and basketball. Granted you may not be a fan of those sports like I am but it does help to have that. The truth is the owners nor the players care about the fans,and the fans pay the salaries of these people. I wish there was a way as fans that we could strike and vow to not support these people unless they started doing something for us like lower ticket prices. I know that will never happen but the fans hold the most power in this strike because we have the money they are battling each other for. We as fans will be there when they settle this whenever that may be and that I believe is the major problem.
My opinion as many are starting to do ..
Tune it out...who cares if they come back and if they do decide to come back we wont be there with open arms. they need to earn it...both sides...we have there money and we are not going to give it back to you them easy....go out catch a baseball or football game or even better enjoy this area that we live in
If there was no strike I would have spent over $150 bucks with preseason games already ,so thank you NHL for saving me money ....I could care less if you guys settle...Your loss not mine
My opinion as many are starting to do ..
Tune it out...who cares if they come back and if they do decide to come back we wont be there with open arms. they need to earn it...both sides...we have there money and we are not going to give it back to you them easy....go out catch a baseball or football game or even better enjoy this area that we live in
The only issue with that is there are also many of us(like me) whose only sport is hockey, so we take it. While we are angry about it, some of us will still welcome it back with open arms since there just aren't a lot of other options for us.
I dunno if it's just me or not but I don't think I've seen Murray do a massive bone crushing hit in a long time. I know he's mr. brick wall and things just bounce off him but I haven't seen a big hit from him in a while...or I have terrible memory.
Murray crushed some guys at the beginning of last season then got hurt and seemed to shy away from going out of his way to kill guys the rest of the season. I expect a return to terminator form when the season gets going (hopefully soon!).
Depending on the details surrounding escrow and the definition of hockey related revenue, looks like the NHL took a big step in the right direction today.
Depending on the details surrounding escrow and the definition of hockey related revenue, looks like the NHL took a big step in the right direction today.
Fingers crossed.
From what I can tell, it's more than just good for the NHL, it's great for teams like ours.
It would eliminate giant contracts (which we don't give anyways), it would tether rookies to their drafting teams for longer (so they can't bolt for their childhood favourites as easily) and it would prevent teams from burying bad contracts in the minors as those contracts would still effect the NHL team's cap (which levels to playing field for less "rich" teams).
As a Sharks fan, my fingers are crossed that this gets done.
From what I can tell, it's more than just good for the NHL, it's great for teams like ours.
It would eliminate giant contracts (which we don't give anyways), it would tether rookies to their drafting teams for longer (so they can't bolt for their childhood favourites as easily) and it would prevent teams from burying bad contracts in the minors as those contracts would still effect the NHL team's cap (which levels to playing field for less "rich" teams).
As a Sharks fan, my fingers are crossed that this gets done.
Agreed on all the points you highlighted. I believe there is also something in there allowing players to recoup lost wages from this lockout over the life of their existing contracts (provided they currently have a long-term deal, of course).
I still need details though, because the crux is still hockey-related revenue, and salary rollbacks. If the new proposal drastically re-defines HRR, then the 50/50 split is moot since the owners/league are simply shrinking the pie as opposed to taking the bigger slice.
Fehr talks in general about proposal received today.
The gist, AIUI: 50-50 split immediately of HRR. Players would have $$ of contracts "guaranteed", but paid out (in future). Full 82 game season, dropping the puck 11/2 (and completing before end of June). Particulars still dribbling out. Head to BOH for latest/full information.
Fehr talks in general about proposal received today.
The gist, AIUI: 50-50 split immediately of HRR. Players would have $$ of contracts "guaranteed", but paid out (in future). Full 82 game season, dropping the puck 11/2 (and completing before end of June). Particulars still dribbling out. Head to BOH for latest/full information.
I don't like the idea of a full 82 game season starting in November. I guess they can do what the NBA does but the difference is I do think there is a higher risk of injury in Hockey then there is in Basketball. You know how the players were compared to cattle? That's going to be an apt comparison if this 82 game schedule does go off.
I don't like the idea of a full 82 game season starting in November. I guess they can do what the NBA does but the difference is I do think there is a higher risk of injury in Hockey then there is in Basketball. You know how the players were compared to cattle? That's going to be an apt comparison if this 82 game schedule does go off.
One comment from Bettman (or some news flunkie) was that it would be about one game added every five weeks of the schedule.
One comment from Bettman (or some news flunkie) was that it would be about one game added every five weeks of the schedule.
Which is why I compared it to the NBA. This is what the NBA does, playing at least 3 games a week from a November to Mid-June schedule. I'm just saying the risk is greater even with the added games and I could just see larger DL's this season because of it. Also, they have a ton of preparation to do before the season starts. I would much prefer them start Thanksgiving (That national TV game the day after) so the teams do get a training camp and some preseason games to get acclimated to each other. Everyone is saying they should start with the Winter Classic, but if this deal get's done, there's nothing wrong with somewhere in the range of 60 games (including the Winter Classic) and playoffs and not have that greater risk of injury.
