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Vancouver Canucks Top 20 Prospects 2015 - #6

View Poll Results: Who is the Canucks #6 prospect?
Hunter Shinkaruk 97 60.25%
Ronalds Kenins 18 11.18%
Brendan Gaunce 15 9.32%
Nicklas Jensen 1 0.62%
Frank Corrado 18 11.18%
Guillaume Brisebois 2 1.24%
Adam Clendening 2 1.24%
Jordan Subban 2 1.24%
Alexandre Grenier 1 0.62%
Nikita Tryamkin 1 0.62%
Andrey Pedan 0 0%
Ben Hutton 4 2.48%
Dmitri Zhukenov 0 0%
Joe Cannata 0 0%
Alex Friesen 0 0%
Dane Fox 0 0%
Other (specify below) 0 0%
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07-10-2015, 01:26 PM
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Vancouver Canucks Top 20 Prospects 2015 - #6

It's that time of year again! The HF Vancouver Canucks board will be ranking the team's top 20 prospects (including the 2015 draft selections). Polls will be left open for 24 hours.

Feel free to explain your choices and suggest who should be added to the list for the next poll.

RankPlayerPOSHTWTDOBPoll%
1Jake VirtanenRW6.01207Aug 17, 199680.00%
2Jared McCannC6.00185May 31, 199668.21%
3Brock BoeserRW6.00191Feb 25, 199757.14%
4Thatcher DemkoG6.04195Dec 8, 199548.87%
5Cole CasselsC6.00180May 4, 199551.45%
6??????????????????

*Please note that only players that Hockey's Future considers to be prospects will be included, meaning Horvat, Baertschi, Vey, and Markstrom will be excluded from voting.

2014 ranking: http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1719893
2013 ranking: http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1486113

Thanks Nuckles!

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Shinkaruk the clear winner here. Kind of surprised Cassels beat him.

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The grouping of Cassels, Shinkaruk, Gaunce, Kenins, Corrado and Clendening can really flipflop depending how you value upside and floor. Shinkaruk (my vote) has the highest upside. The remaining of these forwards, more or less have the same upside. Same goes for Corrado and Clendening though they do play a different game, I have a Corrado the safer bet and rank higher than his defensive counter part.

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Shinkaruk for me here.




Will be interested to see where Brisbois ends up finishing in these rankings.

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The grouping of Cassels, Shinkaruk, Gaunce, Kenins, Corrado and Clendening can really flipflop depending how you value upside and floor. Shinkaruk (my vote) has the highest upside. The remaining of these forwards, more or less have the same upside. Same goes for Corrado and Clendening though they do play a different game, I have a Corrado the safer bet and rank higher than his defensive counter part.
I look at the prospects which have the highest ceiling possible if they ever make the team, not the probability of making the NHL as a 4th liner per se.

So from that group, it makes sense Shinkaruk would be considered the 'top' in that group, because he was drafted to be a natural goalscorer aka top 6.

Whereas everyone else in that group are projected to be 3rd and 4th liners, so far. Corrado and Clendenning I see them as bottom 4 D, but not top pairing.

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Kenins easily here for me.

Guy is an NHL player. Shinkaruk probably won't be.

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Even though Tryamkin is contracted to play this up coming season in the KHL, I see him as the best of our defense prospects. The KHL experience will allow him to jump straight to the NHL once he comes to Vancouver.


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Kenins easily here for me.

Guy is an NHL player. Shinkaruk probably won't be.
Kenins doesn't qualify based on HF rules.

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Kenins easily here for me.

Guy is an NHL player. Shinkaruk probably won't be.
Would you trade Shinkaruk even up for Kenins?

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Even though Tryamkin is contracted to play this up coming season in the KLM, I see him as the best of our defense prospects. The KLM experience will allow him to jump straight to the NHL once he comes to Vancouver.
Since when did Tryamkin leave hockey to go work for a Dutch airline?

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Shink, then Gaunce then Corrado then Brisbois

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Kenins doesn't qualify based on HF rules.
Yea I really don't think Kenins should be on the list. Is there anyone that disagrees and thinks Kenins should still be considered a prospect?

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Jesus, read the last thread.

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Jesus, read the last thread.
Sorry mang I'll go read

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Its easily Kenins for me. He's already NHL calibre, and has a very high chance of being a 3rd liner. Shinkaruk has 2nd line upside but whether he comes close to that is up in the air.

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I voted Gaunce. I think he has the best chance of having a good NHL career -- above average third liner. I hope for the best for Shinkaruk, but at this point I think there's a good chance he doesn't crack the big leagues at all. I'd be surprised if Kenins is better than an average fourth line guy.

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Easily Kenins for me

Shown he can play in the NHL and does have some underrated upside. The skills are there and he's proven that he can play with the big boys. Same can't be said for Shinkaruk/Gaunce etc

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Kenins doesn't qualify based on HF rules.
Yes, he does.

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Would you trade Shinkaruk even up for Kenins?
Yup.

Right now if someone offered me a 2nd rounder for a cost-controlled effective NHL player in Kenins who looks to be a guy with the potential to score 30 ES points from the 3rd line, no way.

I'd take a #2 pick and run for Shinkaruk.

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Jesus, read the last thread.
Good to know Kenins is back in. Last round I voted early so missed the later posts clearing up Kenins' status.

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Right now if someone offered me a 2nd rounder for a cost-controlled effective NHL player in Kenins who looks to be a guy with the potential to score 30 ES points from the 3rd line, no way.

I'd take a #2 pick and run for Shinkaruk.
I am not a big Hunter fan but he did show progress at the end of last season, playoffs aside. I think this season will show if he has a decent chance at becoming an NHLer or not.

Just curious but why aren't you a supporter of his?

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I voted Corrado. He's an NHLer IMO.

I thought Kenins had graduated? He's played over 25 games and is on a 1-way?

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I voted Corrado. He's an NHLer IMO.

I thought Kenins had graduated? He's played over 25 games and is on a 1-way?
One way contracts don't guarantee you a place in the league, especially when you don't need waivers to get down.

It just guarantees he'll be getting his NHL salary no matter where he plays.

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I know this has probably been discussed in the specific Brisebois thread, but with the Brisebois/Corrado discussion going on, I looked up the pre-draft assessment for Brisebois...

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"Very fluid skating marks his game. His quickness and mobility allow him to defend very well and to beat the pressures that opponents are trying to apply. Smart, reads the play well and makes very solid plays with the puck. He’s not going to overwhelm you with great skill or physical play but he has excellent consistency, reliability and efficiency."

Cauncks selection #66 (3rd round pick acquired for Eddie Lack)
Bob McKenzie ranking #48
Craig Button ranking #55
NHL Central Scouting ranking #41 (North American Skaters)

Other than a reportedly mediocre shot, he sounds like a steal. In the 18 team QMJHL his Acadie-Bathurst Titan finished... well, 18th - and 14 points below 17th! Only 17 wins in 68 games! I think there's a good chance that on a better team Brisebois would have been a bigger contributor to the offence - consider that only two teams in the QMJHL scored fewer than 200 goals, and Acadie-Bathurst was the lowest at only 158.
Going against him, of course, is the fact that far fewer QMJHL defencemen make the NHL compared to defencemen from the OHL and WHL.

Anyway, just thought I would add that to the discussion.

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Kenins for sure. Would have taken him over Cassels last round if it were an option.

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Also interesting to see how this year is shaping up vs. 2014:

2014
1. Bo Horvat
2. Jake Virtanen
3. Hunter Shinkaruk
4. Nicklas Jensen
5. Brendan Gaunce
6. Jared McCann
7. Frankie Corrado
8. Linden Vey
9. Ben Hutton
10. Thatcher Demko
11. Dane Fox
12. Cole Cassels
13. Joacim Eriksson
14. Nikita Tryamkin
15. Jordon Subban
16. Evan McEneny
17. Ronalds Kenins
18. Michael Zalewski
19. Gustav Forsling
20. Alexandre Grenier

2015
Horvat, Vey graduated, and Eriksson and Forsling are gone.

Other predictions:
- Jensen will fall quite a lot, Gaunce will also fall
- McCann, Cassels and Demko rise already, Subban and Grenier will also rise
- Hutton is a wild card

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