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10-21-2012, 05:37 PM
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Brady is awesome, but he has time to order his lunch, pick his seat, eat it, and then throw the ball.
I'm convinced you haven't watched a game of Patriots football this year.

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New England got lucky. Hernandez fumbled at the one. Call was revered. They got first-and-goal at the one. However, Hoodie threw the challenge flag before. Even though it's a terrible rule, there is a rule in which a play under review can't be challenged or it's a 15-yard penalty. Should have been first-and-goal from the 16.
Agreed. It definitely wasn't a fumble and the rule is dumb, but it's still a rule. They'd have probably scored anyways. They were rolling.

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10-21-2012, 05:39 PM
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New England got lucky. Hernandez fumbled at the one. Call was revered. They got first-and-goal at the one. However, Hoodie threw the challenge flag before. Even though it's a terrible rule, there is a rule in which a play under review can't be challenged or it's a 15-yard penalty. Should have been first-and-goal from the 16.
Don't see the issue here... every TO is automatically reviewed, and if they aren't going to do it on their own, I'd throw the flag to.

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I'm convinced you haven't watched a game of Patriots football this year.
Yeah, the Pats line hasn't been that great for a few years now... It's not awful, but far from anything to brag about.

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10-21-2012, 05:40 PM
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I'm convinced you haven't watched a game of Patriots football this year.
I am watching right now and have watched some of their games this season. There have been games this year and many in the pants where Brady heads to the locker room after the game without a grass stain. He is an unbelievable quarterback, but he has certainly had the benefit of a solid offensive line the majority of his career.

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10-21-2012, 05:42 PM
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Don't see the issue here... every TO is automatically reviewed, and if they aren't going to do it on their own, I'd throw the flag to.



Yeah, the Pats line hasn't been that great for a few years now... It's not awful, but far from anything to brag about.
All touchdowns and turnovers are automatically reviewed. If a coach throws a challenge flag to try to reverse a call involving a touchdown or a turnover, it is a 15-yard penalty. BB threw the challenge flag before the booth review. It should have been a 15-yard penalty. It has been called before. I have seen it called in the preseason and the regular season.

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10-21-2012, 05:44 PM
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I am watching right now and have watched some of their games this season. There have been games this year and many in the pants where Brady heads to the locker room after the game without a grass stain. He is an unbelievable quarterback, but he has certainly had the benefit of a solid offensive line the majority of his career.
Solid yes. Nothing to brag about. The guy just makes all the right moves in the pocket. He's not mobile by any means, but he takes those small steps that make big differences.

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10-21-2012, 05:45 PM
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Did he look as bad as his stat line? I've never been a big believer in Flacco, and have always been more of the opinion that he is slightly better than a game manager type of QB..
Yeah he was brutal all day

Terrible throws off target , Overthrows , Throwing to empty field with no WR's in area , Throwing a few near picks , etc

Just brutal peformance by Flacco (And entire Ravens team) today

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10-21-2012, 05:48 PM
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Yeah he was brutal all day

Terrible throws off target , Overthrows , Throwing to empty field with no WR's in area , Throwing a few near picks , etc

Just brutal peformance by Flacco (And entire Ravens team) today
I just don't buy them as legit AFC threats.

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10-21-2012, 05:49 PM
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Not surprised the call wasn't made. It has had had little to do with the current result, but if you get a game with Jeff Triplette, expect awful calls or non-calls.

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I just don't buy them as legit AFC threats.
Before injuries they were (I mean they were a dropped TD away from SB last year)

Now with the injuries and Flacco regressing they will be early round exit fodder

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10-21-2012, 05:53 PM
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I'd say there's 8 teams that have a shot at the super bowl.

AFC: Texans, Pats, Broncos

NFC: Packers, Bears, 49ers, Giants, Falcons


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All touchdowns and turnovers are automatically reviewed. If a coach throws a challenge flag to try to reverse a call involving a touchdown or a turnover, it is a 15-yard penalty. BB threw the challenge flag before the booth review. It should have been a 15-yard penalty. It has been called before. I have seen it called in the preseason and the regular season.
I'm not saying I'm right, for the record, just saying that I'd have done the same as Bill if they weren't going to take a more in depth look on such a crucial play. The whole rule is pretty stupid if you ask me, and doesn't seem they're reviewing a lot of plays that she should be.

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10-21-2012, 05:55 PM
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I'd say there's 8 teams that have a shot at the super bowl.

AFC: Texans, Pats, Broncos

NFC: Packers, Bears, 49ers, Giants, Falcons
Not buying Atlanta at all... I honestly don't think Minnesota is far off.

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The AFC is just bad in general. No one from the AFC West impresses me. The AFC North also looks terrible with a depleted Baltimore defense looking as perhaps the best team in that division. There is one good team in the AFC South that can do damage: Houston. However, any team with many passing weapons will tear them to shreds (see SNF). The AFC East has the Patriots. The Patriots are just decent. I think the Super Bowl winner comes out of the NFC. I think Chicago, Green Bay, New York, San Francisco, and Atlanta are the favorites. I think Green Bay, New York, and Atlanta would have the best shots at beating Houston, but I think all five have a very good chance to beat anyone else from the AFC.

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10-21-2012, 05:56 PM
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Not buying Atlanta at all... I honestly don't think Minnesota is far off.
I don't either, but it looks like they'll be in the dome in the playoffs, so you never know. They've at least got a shot. I don't buy Minnesota or Ponder at all.

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Not buying Atlanta at all... I honestly don't think Minnesota is far off.
They'll get exposed sooner or later. Ryan is also ****** in the playoffs. Can't wait to watch them try to beat New York or Green Bay in the playoffs. Will be hilarious.

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10-21-2012, 05:59 PM
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The AFC just isn't good. We murdered Houston, Baltimore is good when healthy, and they aren't healthy, and New England has talent but is far from impressive.

In the NFC, I think Minnesota and Atlanta are overachieving. I am looking at Chicago, Green Bay, San Francisco, or New York to win the Super Bowl.

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I don't either, but it looks like they'll be in the dome in the playoffs, so you never know. They've at least got a shot. I don't buy Minnesota or Ponder at all.
Last year Ponder looked Mark Sanchez bad... he's showing me some things this year. Not saying some super stud QB, but good enough with a back like AP and threat in Harvin.

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I just don't buy them as legit AFC threats.
Before the injuries they were, definitely not now.

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Yeah he was brutal all day

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Just brutal peformance by Flacco (And entire Ravens team) today
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10-21-2012, 06:03 PM
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Jets within three. AFC is awful. Can't stress it enough.

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10-21-2012, 06:03 PM
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Last year Ponder looked Mark Sanchez bad... he's showing me some things this year. Not saying some super stud QB, but good enough with a back like AP and threat in Harvin.
I think eventually he'll be decent enough to win with a good team, but I can't take him seriously as a threat yet.

Although part of that might be because I have him in fantasy. The two weeks I had to start him, he threw for 111 and 58 yards.

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10-21-2012, 06:10 PM
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10-21-2012, 06:12 PM
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New England is so mediocre this year.

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10-21-2012, 06:12 PM
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Hate the Jets but now pulling for them after seeing that disaster 3 and out.

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I really want to hear ESPN if Sanchez beats Brady.

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10-21-2012, 06:16 PM
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Brandon Lloyd just had to have those Butterfingers before the game.

And Stephen Hill, too.

Hernandez touchdown, Bill. You know you need it.

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