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11-15-2012, 09:42 AM
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Is he expected to play or something? I haven't seen any reports.
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“Leo Komarov is returning to Dynamo, he will probably arrive on Friday,” club spokesman Mikhail Kravchenko told R-Sport. “He will likely take part in his first match at the start of the next home series.”

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11-15-2012, 09:47 AM
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Who can blame him. The NHL is likely the only reason he came over here.

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This has been speculated for awhile now and it just makes sense.

Komarov got a taste of N.A. hockey but I think it makes a ton more sense for him to keep developing in the KHL.

Leafs need the roster space with Frattin back any day as well.

If there was a NHL season, he would definitely be in Toronto, either AHL or NHL, for the year.

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11-15-2012, 10:16 AM
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I hope he does not come back.

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I hope he does not come back.
Why?

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11-15-2012, 10:34 AM
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Home sick. Heading back to Russia as per reports this morning.
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I'll buy that when he signs in Finland, Not Russia.
Yup, not heading home but back to his former KHL team as his NHL contract allowed him to. Wasn't interested in playing in AHL, only NHL. He'll be back if/when the lock-out is over.

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11-15-2012, 11:31 AM
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Okay then. Understandable.

If everyone is healthy (my line-up).

Kadri - Colborne - Ashton (If Kadri and Ashton swap wings whatever)
Frattin -McKegg - Ross (Frattin has his work cut out for him ... McKegg's opportunity)
D'Amigo - Scott - Deschamp (D'Amigo and Scott PK they can ES together)
Ryan - Zigomanis - Hamilton (Not really 4th. line, could be some heavy lifting)

Holzer - Gardiner (Holzer is so solid - green light Gardiner)
Gysbers - Blacker (Gysbers or Fraser both 25/26 depth potential)
Fraser - Kostka (Ranger or Kostka doesn't matter)

Rynnas - playing better maybe
Scrivens - slow starter

I'm not that concerned about wins, more about playing time for the futures. Marlies recently played a game against a team and the average age of defenders was around 22.8 for the other team and about 25.5 for the Marlies. Sign placeholder vets for the Leafs and do the same thing for the Marlies, end up sending prospects to play out of the way places in scrub leagues because there are no minutes available for the futures.
You forgot Aucoin.

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11-15-2012, 12:44 PM
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Sad to see Komarov to go but now prospects will try to jump into his spot. Aka the Ryan, and Ross. IMO Abbott has stolen a spot.

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11-15-2012, 12:51 PM
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He was everything I was expecting and a little bit more. Best of luck Leo.

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11-15-2012, 12:55 PM
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I guess I'm the only one who's mildly bitter about this.

Oh well.

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11-15-2012, 01:01 PM
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I guess I'm the only one who's mildly bitter about this.

Oh well.
I know that feel but I don't blame him he was pretty much expecting to be in the NHL and then there is no season.

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11-15-2012, 01:07 PM
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Why?
I don't know about him but just so I don't have to read "lolololol komarovs trollin!!!what a great pest" everytime theres a post whistle scrum.

I personally wouldn't mind if he leaves or comes back. If he doesnt though its not a big loss because of the glut of bottom 6 wingers we have.

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I know he said that he was thinking about this before, and he did only come here for the NHL, but this really hurts the team. Not to mention he's been our best forward the past couple weeks and he was finally starting to get used to the N.A. ice. I'm not surprised he left, but I'm a little surprised that he left at the same moment that he finally starts to get a feel for the difference in the game. Why not wait a month to acclimatize a little more?

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11-15-2012, 03:15 PM
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I know he said that he was thinking about this before, and he did only come here for the NHL, but this really hurts the team. Not to mention he's been our best forward the past couple weeks and he was finally starting to get used to the N.A. ice. I'm not surprised he left, but I'm a little surprised that he left at the same moment that he finally starts to get a feel for the difference in the game. Why not wait a month to acclimatize a little more?
Frattin's returning so we have another scoring punch to use with Komarov leaving.

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11-15-2012, 03:22 PM
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I'll buy that when he signs in Finland, Not Russia.
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Komarov wasn't home sick he just felt that AHL is not what he needs. Many teams have offered him twoway-contracts but this was the first year when he managed to get one way offer but the lockout turned it away.

It's also pretty odd to say that he was homesick and then the guy is returning to Russia when he is born and raised in Finland.
Geeze..take a joke fellas. He's been playing in Russia for the last 3 years, hence why I said 'home sick' since that's where he was playing last.

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11-15-2012, 03:50 PM
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Geeze..take a joke fellas. He's been playing in Russia for the last 3 years, hence why I said 'home sick' since that's where he was playing last.



I was speaking more about Frattin. I hadn't seen a report saying he was ready to come back.
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Update: Komarov was photographed by a CP reporter at the Marlies' optional skate Thursday morning.

Marlies head coach told Leafs TV after the skate that Komarov is still a Marlie until he hears otherwise.

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11-15-2012, 06:53 PM
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Eakins said in his interview that Frattin playing this weekend is a possibility but they are still waiting for him to be cleared medically.

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I guess I'm the only one who's mildly bitter about this.

Oh well.
He'll probably make close to if not a million playing in Russia. He's getting something like 100k-200k playing in the NHL.

I'm the first one to get pissed when guys chase the money, but it would just be a stupid life-decision to give up that much money with no chance of playing in the NHL this season. He probably has a wife and family to think about.

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11-15-2012, 08:00 PM
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Eakins said in his interview that Frattin playing this weekend is a possibility but they are still waiting for him to be cleared medically.
Thanks.

That would be a nice addition.

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Eakins said in his interview that Frattin playing this weekend is a possibility but they are still waiting for him to be cleared medically.
That will be great tbh.

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11-16-2012, 07:13 AM
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Eakins interview about Kadri and Colborne

http://sports.nationalpost.com/2012/...-with-marlies/

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Players who would be in the NHL if there was not a lockout have been dominating in the minors. Edmonton Oilers prospect Justin Schultz leads all scorers with 18 points in 13 games, two ahead of teammate Jordan Eberle and three ahead of Marcus Foligno (Buffalo). Ryan Nugent-Hopkins (Edmonton), Brayden Schenn (Philadelphia) and Justin Faulk (Carolina) are also in the top 10 with 14 points each.
From what I learned in the end is that they should "play the kids". Most of the players that have been in the NHL end up being the top point producers. I think after developing one year in the AHL, they both should have been up for a full season last year.

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From what I learned in the end is that they should "play the kids". Most of the players that have been in the NHL end up being the top point producers. I think after developing one year in the AHL, they both should have been up for a full season last year.
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The night after sitting out, Kadri and Colborne combined for two goals and five points in a 5-3 win against San Antonio. Two nights later, they were a plus-3 in a 6-5 overtime win against Oilers-affiliate Oklahoma City.

“They played great,” Eakins said. “They firmly showed our team how they can play. And now it’s their challenge to do that every night.”

That is what the other NHL prospects have been doing.
He expects they should be PPG players and says they aren't rookies.

That's what we said that PPG is the minimum expectation for offensive players if you think you're good enough for that role in the NHL. Blame your mates all you want but when they have 2 goals in 22 games (combined) we aren't looking at players too good for the AHL by any stretch.

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From what I learned in the end is that they should "play the kids". Most of the players that have been in the NHL end up being the top point producers. I think after developing one year in the AHL, they both should have been up for a full season last year.
"Play the kids", where have I heard that before.

Its true though that the teams the allowed their kids to play in the NHL advanced their development further than those that were AHL bound.

Marlies two best players on this season are Jake Gardiner and Leo Komarov.. Jake's experience with the Leafs and Lomarov playing pro in the KHL are both now the most NHL ready, and would be the ones that would be promoted to help the Leafs if the lockout ended.

Kadri and Colborne are starting to come around after slow starts, but neither would have too big of an impact on the Leafs at their present level of play. Their development that might have been stagnated and perhaps even set back by having been demoted unjustly last season when their strong AHL play had earned them NHL opportunities, but were farmed because of depth veteran under-performing NHLers on overpaid contracts. The additions of Connolly and Lombardi the reason Kadri and Colborne where demoted, and so they lost valuable NHL experience opportunity, and what purpose did the vets serve as the team finished near the bottom, that would have the worst case scenario had Leafs "played the kids" instead.

If you expect top 6 NHL future potential NHL players from your prospects in the AHL then PPG players at that level is often the gauge for NHL readiness and opportunity.

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That article is dumb. The author gets his stats (probably intentionally) wrong in saying kadri has only 7pts in 12 games. He sounds like a typical anti-kadri troll from this board. He should be fired for such a lazy oversight that forms the basis of his argument.

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I really miss Frattin. I keep hearing reports that 'he could be back as soon as...'. I'm waiting for the one that says 'Frattin added to the Marlies lineup'. Of course I want him to be completely healthy before he returns but I love watching the guy play. Please excuse my impatience.

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