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Sens Board Prospect Rankings 2013 (4th)

View Poll Results: Who's #4?
Cory Conacher 22 17.60%
Derek Grant 0 0%
Jean-Gabriel Pageau 40 32.00%
Chris Driedger 0 0%
Stephane Da Costa 1 0.80%
Patrick Wiercioch 5 4.00%
Mark Stone 8 6.40%
Matt Puempel 4 3.20%
Shane Prince 0 0%
Buddy Robinson 0 0%
Cody Ceci 45 36.00%
Andre Petersson 0 0%
Mark Borowiecki 0 0%
Mike Hoffman 0 0%
Mikael Wikstrand 0 0%
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07-07-2013, 07:33 PM
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Sens Board Prospect Rankings 2013 (4th)

Sens Prospect Rankings:

1. Robin Lehner G 6'4" 223 (Ottawa Senators, NHL) 52.82%
2. Mika Zibanejad C 6'1" 200 (Ottawa Senators, NHL) 86.05%
3. Curtis Lazar C 6'0" 194 (Edmonton Oil Kings, WHL) 52.08%

Senators Prospects Top 40 (2012) + Past Rankings:
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Prospect Criteria:

A player will be considered a prospect until he meets the following criteria:

If a prospect is a skater (forward, defenseman) and has played in 65 NHL games or more before the completion of the season of his 24th birthday; or, if a goaltender has played in 45 NHL games before the completion of the season of his 24th birthday, that player will be considered graduated to the NHL. Conversely, if a player completes the season of his 24th birthday without passing those milestones, then that player will no longer be considered a prospect by Hockey’s Future, regardless of the player’s status with his NHL club.

An NCAA player who signs his first contract at or above the age of 22 has three years to meet the above criteria (65/45), while those NCAA players that turn pro under the age of 22 will be subjected to
the criteria above.

European players who sign their first NHL contract at or above the age of 22 have three seasons from the time they sign that contract to meet the above criteria. Those European players below the age of 22 that have signed a NHL contract will be subjected to the criteria in section one.
Tell me who to add next.

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I still say Conacher.

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Should be Pageau by default.

Although I wouldn't mind Prince/Puempel. They have top line upside.

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Pageau
Conacher
Wiercioch
Ceci
Prince

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Going with Stone here; he doesn't get much hype around here but he has one of the highest upsides of all our prospects.

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Should have been Ceci, IMO, and then Stone, Pageau, and Lazar.

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Gotta go with Pageau. At the very least we know he can play at this level.

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Ceci's time

Add Maidens, then Claesson and Dzingel

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I know Pageau was a 3rd rounder, but every game Ive seen Pageau play other then the Pens series hes been awesome.

He just gets it.

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Pageau. Add Claesson.

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07-07-2013, 09:28 PM
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Can't beleive that Ceci is falling again. He is almost disliked around here now for some reason. He is really going to rise this year in Bingo...

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Can't beleive that Ceci is falling again. He is almost disliked around here now for some reason. He is really going to rise this year in Bingo...
I picked him because I also think he will have a good yr in Bingo, if he can improve defensively. He won't make it to the NHL until he improves that part of his game & Luke Richardson, Steve Sterling & Jason Smith have already started working with him at this development camp to improve that, which is great to see. The offensive side of his game is already pretty good but that can always get better & I'm sure it will.

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It's not really that Ceci is falling, it's more the hard-on people have on the Gatineau shorty... Ceci was top-5 in the Sens brass draft ranking... They had him in their top-5... That means a lot and they really don't fail with top-15 first round picks (see Karlsson, Cowen, Zibanejad)


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It's not really that Ceci is falling, it's more the hard-on people have on the Gatineau shorty... Ceci was top-5 in the Sens brass draft ranking... They had him in their top-5. They don't fail on top-15 first round picks (see Karlsson, Cowen, Zibanejad)
You are exactly right, you wouldn't believe all the Quebec plates in the parking lot of the Sensplex. I have been to a lot of development camps including when we drafted Vermette & he didn't draw anywhere near as many fans. I said in another post they will soon be making a religion around him (Praise Pageau). Unless they were there for Brassard or Leblanc??? Couldn't be!

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Voted Ceci. Add Filatov.

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Conacher has proved WAY more than anyone else.

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Voted Ceci. Add Filatov.
Is he even a "prospect"?

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I honestly see Weircioch and Ceci to possess the same upside.

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Conacher has proved WAY more than anyone else.
He proved he can produce with Stamkos and St. Louis (two guys who may very well be HHoFers) for half of a shortened season. He still has question marks.

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I honestly see Weircioch and Ceci to possess the same upside.
Ceci has marginally better upside, but is significantly more likely to reach that upside, assuming his development goes as expected. Wiercioch reaching his full potential was usually contingent on his ability to add muscle to his frame and improve his defensive play, areas he continues to need improvement in.

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He proved he can produce with Stamkos and St. Louis (two guys who may very well be HHoFers) for half of a shortened season. He still has question marks.
He's proved more then that,

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ECHL Alumnus of the Month (January)

Also 6th in voting for the Calder. Conacher isnt a bad player, I like Pageau better but Conacher is next.

Just for fun Ceci Career Highlights:

2009-2010 U17 WHC Silver Medal
2011-2012 OHL Second All-Star Team
2012-2013 OHL Second All-Star Team

It seems since Conacher wasnt drafted or a player we signed/groomed he has been overlooked by everyone. Oh and cause hes short.


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Is he even a "prospect"?
23 not playing for the big club. Yes he is still one of our prospects.

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He's proved more then that,
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It seems since Conacher wasnt drafted or a player we signed/groomed he has been overlooked by everyone. Oh and cause hes short.
You're kind of missing my point, which is that Conacher hasn't actually proven that much in the NHL yet. His AHL awards are certainly indicative of a player who has offensive talent - the question remains whether he can successfully transition that offensive ability into the NHL and produce like a top-6 forward over a full 82 game sched without Stamkos and St. Louis generating most of the offensive opportunities.

For me, it has nothing to do with Conacher not being drafted or signed by us. I could care less about that. I think at worst, Conacher is a Jarkko Ruutu - a third liner with good offensive ability and a knack for agitating opponents. At best, he could be a good 2nd liner.

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You're kind of missing my point, which is that Conacher hasn't actually proven that much in the NHL yet.
You're also missing the point that he has produced in the NHL so far more than anyone else. 6th in Calder voting is pretttty good, I'd say.

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Ceci has marginally better upside, but is significantly more likely to reach that upside, assuming his development goes as expected. Wiercioch reaching his full potential was usually contingent on his ability to add muscle to his frame and improve his defensive play, areas he continues to need improvement in.
I see way more upside in ceci. Could have gone with him here but chose the more adorable guy.

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