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01-13-2015, 03:35 PM
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Greatest Player in Each Team's History?

Who would say the greatest player in each teams history is?

This can be a hard one (O6 Teams) or an easy one (90's expansion teams).

I'm just interested to see people opinions about their favourite team and other teams. I was going to make a list but I find they can create too much controversy

Make you're own lists, then if there enough input I can make a consensus list and make a poll to see who agrees/disagrees.

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Im just answering for my own team, as I'm not a die-hard for any other teams, and the long-time fans of other teams certainly know/knew the players better than I do.

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A few options:

Jarome Iginla
Miikka Kiprusoff
Al MacInnis
Lanny McDonald

I still think that Iginla wins this hands down.

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Vinny or Marty. Personally I say Vinny, but others will likely disagree.

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Habs here:

It would be one of those (in no order):
Maurice Richard
Jean Béliveau
Guy Lafleur
Doug Harvey
Ken Dryden
Patrick Roy

I think an argument for the best player can be made for everyone one of those. But there's suck an amount of good players to choose from...
Both Dryden and Roy are sometimes considered as the best goaltenders ever. Richard is a hero of legendary proportions (litterally) in the Province of Québec and Béliveau was one of the greatest center ever.

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Habs here:

It would be one of those (in no order):
Maurice Richard
Jean Béliveau
Guy Lafleur
Doug Harvey
Ken Dryden
Patrick Roy

I think an argument for the best player can be made for everyone one of those. But there's suck an amount of good players to choose from...
Both Dryden and Roy are sometimes considered as the best goaltenders ever. Richard is a hero of legendary proportions (litterally) in the Province of Québec and Béliveau was one of the greatest center ever.
Just from a personal standpoint who would you choose? Can't go wrong really

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01-13-2015, 03:46 PM
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Howe for Detroit is an easy one, just like Edmonton, Boston, and Pittsburgh.

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Depends on how you define the question. Greatest player regarding performance with that franchise or greatest player that happened to play on certain teams. Like Gretzky would be the greatest player that ever played for the Blues and Rangers even though his runs with them were brief and not necessarily great.

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Boston: Bobby Orr
Chicago: Bobby Hull
Detroit: Gordie Howe
Montreal: Jean Beliveau (tough one)
NY Rangers: Bill Cook
Toronto: Syl Apps (tough one)

Anaheim: Teemu Selanne
Arizona/Winnipeg: Dale Hawerchuk (Keith Tkachuk if only including Phoenix/Arizona years)
Buffalo: Dominik Hasek
Calgary: Jarome Iginla
Carolina/Hartford: Ron Francis
Colorado: Joe Sakic
Columbus: Rick Nash
Dallas: Mike Modano
Edmonton: Wayne Gretzky
Florida: Pavel Bure? (Tough one since he only played there for such a short time)
Los Angeles: Marcel Dionne
Minnesota: Mikko Koivu (tough one)
Nashville: Shea Weber
New Jersey: Martin Brodeur
NY Islanders: Denis Potvin
Ottawa: Daniel Alfredsson
Philadelphia: Bobby Clarke
Pittsburgh: Mario Lemieux
San Jose: Joe Thornton
St. Louis: Al MacInnis (though I wouldn't blame anyone for taking Brett Hull; it's awfully close)
Tampa Bay: Martin St Louis
Vancouver: Henrik Sedin
Washington: Alexander Ovechkin
Winnipeg/Atlanta: Ilya Kovalchuk

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Boston: Bobby Orr
Chicago: Bobby Hull
Detroit: Gordie Howe
Montreal: Jean Beliveau (tough one)
NY Rangers: Bill Cook
Toronto: Syl Apps (tough one)

Anaheim: Teemu Selanne
Arizona/Winnipeg: Dale Hawerchuk (Keith Tkachuk if only including Phoenix/Arizona years)
Buffalo: Dominik Hasek
Calgary: Jarome Iginla
Carolina/Hartford: Ron Francis
Colorado: Joe Sakic
Columbus: Rick Nash
Dallas: Mike Modano
Edmonton: Wayne Gretzky
Florida: Pavel Bure? (Tough one since he only played there for such a short time)
Los Angeles: Marcel Dionne
Minnesota: Mikko Koivu (tough one)
Nashville: Shea Weber
New Jersey: Martin Brodeur
NY Islanders: Denis Potvin
Ottawa: Daniel Alfredsson
Philadelphia: Bobby Clarke
Pittsburgh: Mario Lemieux
San Jose: Joe Thornton
St. Louis: Al MacInnis (though I wouldn't blame anyone for taking Brett Hull; it's awfully close)
Tampa Bay: Martin St Louis
Vancouver: Henrik Sedin
Washington: Alexander Ovechkin
Winnipeg/Atlanta: Ilya Kovalchuk
As great as Dionne was, i still have to give it to the great one. Had some of his best years and broke all of his records in Los Angeles. Dionne was amazing but even he couldn't provide that rush for the fans in California.

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As great as Dionne was, i still have to give it to the great one. Had some of his best years and broke all of his records in Los Angeles. Dionne was amazing but even he couldn't provide that rush for the fans in California.
I think one could make an argument for either Gretzky or Dionne for LA, so I went with the guy who wasn't already the greatest for another team.

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Boston: Bobby Orr
Chicago: Bobby Hull
Detroit: Gordie Howe
Montreal: Jean Beliveau (tough one)
NY Rangers: Bill Cook
Toronto: Syl Apps (tough one)

Anaheim: Teemu Selanne
Arizona/Winnipeg: Dale Hawerchuk (Keith Tkachuk if only including Phoenix/Arizona years)
Buffalo: Dominik Hasek
Calgary: Jarome Iginla
Carolina/Hartford: Ron Francis
Colorado: Joe Sakic
Columbus: Rick Nash
Dallas: Mike Modano
Edmonton: Wayne Gretzky
Florida: Pavel Bure? (Tough one since he only played there for such a short time)
Los Angeles: Marcel Dionne
Minnesota: Mikko Koivu (tough one)
Nashville: Shea Weber
New Jersey: Martin Brodeur
NY Islanders: Denis Potvin
Ottawa: Daniel Alfredsson
Philadelphia: Bobby Clarke
Pittsburgh: Mario Lemieux
San Jose: Joe Thornton
St. Louis: Al MacInnis (though I wouldn't blame anyone for taking Brett Hull; it's awfully close)
Tampa Bay: Martin St Louis
Vancouver: Henrik Sedin
Washington: Alexander Ovechkin
Winnipeg/Atlanta: Ilya Kovalchuk
I noticed you did a Winnipeg/Phoenix one as well and then had Tkachuk for non-Winnipeg. For the ATL/Winnipeg non-ATL (2011 and on) I would say Little or Byfuglien so far. It's a short history but it's still history

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Boston: Bobby Orr
Chicago: Bobby Hull
Detroit: Gordie Howe
Montreal: Jean Beliveau
NY Rangers: Brian Leetch
Toronto: Darryl Sittler

Anaheim: Teemu Selanne
Arizona/Winnipeg: Dale Hawerchuk
Buffalo: Dominik Hasek
Calgary: Jarome Iginla
Carolina/Hartford: Ron Francis
Colorado: Joe Sakic
Columbus: Rick Nash
Dallas: Mike Modano
Edmonton: Wayne Gretzky
Florida: Roberto Luongo
Los Angeles: Marcel Dionne
Minnesota: Marian Gaborik
Nashville: Shea Weber
New Jersey: Martin Brodeur
NY Islanders: Denis Potvin
Ottawa: Daniel Alfredsson
Philadelphia: Bobby Clarke
Pittsburgh: Mario Lemieux
San Jose: Joe Thornton
St. Louis: Brett Hull
Tampa Bay: Martin St Louis
Vancouver: Pavel Bure
Washington: Alexander Ovechkin
Winnipeg/Atlanta: Ilya Kovalchuk

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I don't get what makes Iginla a greater player than MacInnis, Nieuwendyk, Gilmour or Vernon.

Hell, Joe freakin' Mullen scored 110p in '89.

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If we go by precedent set in the following examples:

Brett Hull > Gretzky for St. Louis
Gordie Howe > Steve Yzerman for Detroit
Martin Brodeur > Scott Stevens for New Jersey
Brian Leetch > Mark Messier for NYR
Bossy > Trottier for NYI
Dionne > Gretzky for Los Angeles

etc.

Then...

Anaheim: Selanne
Arizona: Doan
Boston: Orr
Buffalo: Hasek
Calgary: Iginla or Kipper
Carolina: Brind'Amour or Francis
Chicago: Hull Sr.
Colorado: Sakic
Columbus: Nash
Dallas: Modano
Detroit: Howe
Edmonton: Gretzky
Florida: Bure
Los Angeles: Dionne
Minnesota: Koivu so far?
Montreal: Not even gonna
Nashville: Rinne or Weber
New Jersey: Brodeur
NYI: Bossy
NYR: Leetch
Ottawa: Daigle
Philadelphia: Lindros
Pittsburgh: Lemieux
San Jose: Thornton
St. Louis: Hull Jr.
Tampa Bay: St. Louis with Stammer to overtake
Toronto: Gonna need help here
Vancouver: Bure
Washington: Ovechkin
Winnipeg: Selanne


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I don't get what makes Iginla a greater player than MacInnis, Nieuwendyk, Gilmour or Vernon.

Hell, Joe freakin' Mullen scored 110p in '89.
If MacInnis spent his whole career in Calgary, sure he goes over Iginla, but the majority of his best seasons were in St. Louis. Still, if you care about a player's peak with the team, MacInnis is up there with Iginla. None of Gilmour's 3 truly elite seasons were in Calgary, and Iginla was simply a better player than Nieuwendyk or Vernon, Flames or otherwise.

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Toronto i will say you can make an argument for Mats Sundin

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Anaheim: Teemu Selanne
Arizona/Winnipeg: Dale Hawerchuk
Boston: Bobby Orr
Buffalo: Dominik Hasek
Calgary: Jarome Iginla
Carolina: Rod Brind'Amour
Chicago: Bobby Hull
Colorado: Joe Sakic
Columbus: Rick Nash
Dallas: Mike Modano
Detroit: Gordie Howe
Edmonton: Wayne Gretzky
Florida: Roberto Luongo
Los Angeles: Marcel Dionne
Minnesota: Mikko Koivu
Montreal: Jean Beliveau
Nashville: Shea Weber
New Jersey: Martin Brodeur
NYI: Mike Bossy
NYR: Brian Leetch
Ottawa: Daniel Alfredsson
Philadelphia: Bobby Clarke
Pittsburgh: Mario Lemieux
San Jose: Joe Thornton
St. Louis: Brett Hull
Tampa Bay: Martin St. Louis
Toronto: Darryl Sittler
Vancouver: Henrik Sedin
Washington: Alex Ovechkin
Winnipeg/Atlanta: Ilya Kovalchuk

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Toronto i will say you can make an argument for Mats Sundin
Not a very good one, IMO. Syl Apps was a Hart finalist 5 years in a row, despite never winning and there was a debate as to whether he was the best player of all-time when he played. Charlie Conacher led the NHL in goals 5 times. Tim Horton and Ted Kennedy were major contributors to dynasties.

Best Leaf since expansion would be a conversation between Salming, Sittler, and Sundin, though Salming would be a pretty easy choice for me, I could see cases for the other two. But the Leafs were a much better team pre-expansion.

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If MacInnis spent his whole career in Calgary, sure he goes over Iginla, but the majority of his best seasons were in St. Louis. Still, if you care about a player's peak with the team, MacInnis is up there with Iginla. None of Gilmour's 3 truly elite seasons were in Calgary, and Iginla was simply a better player than Nieuwendyk or Vernon, Flames or otherwise.
Except that he didn't accomplish what really matters. Any of the others mentioned at least brought a cup home, regardless of whether they peaked with the team.

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Except that he didn't accomplish what really matters. Any of the others mentioned at least brought a cup home, regardless of whether they peaked with the team.
Clearly then the greatest Flame was Lanny McDonald.

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Boston, Edmonton, a Pittsburgh, and Detroit should be obvious so I won't bother mentioning them

Rangers-Brian Leetch
Islanders-Dennis Potvin
Devils-Martin Brodeur
Habs-Doug Harvey (won't argue with someone choosing Beliveau or Richard)
Leafs-Syl Apps
Blackhawks-Bobby Hull
Senators-Daniel Alfredsson
Flyers-Bobby Clarke
Sabres-Dominik Hasek
Hurricanes-Rod Brind'amour
Panthers-Pavel Bure?
Lightning-Martin St. Louis
Jets-Ilya Kovalchuk
Blues-Brett Hull
Predators-Shea Weber
Stars-Mike Modano
Wild-Marian Gaborik?
Blue Jackets-Rick Nash
Kings-Marcel Dionne/Wayne Gretzky
Ducks-Temmu Selanne
Sharks-Joe Thornton
Canucks-Pavel Bure
Flames-Jarome Iginla
Avalanche-Joe Sakic
Coyotes-Dale Hawerchuk
Capitals-Alex Ovechkin

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