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10-21-2012, 05:53 PM
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For anyone who has watched Kadri play, and not clearly see that he has NHL talent, doesn't understand the game. Whether or not Kadri can translate that to the NHL is one thing, but he has NHL talent, no question.

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10-21-2012, 06:04 PM
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Hopefully he can find some chemistry with Frattin when he returns
I was going to mention that but if Frattin doesn't return for a while I'd like him to start creating chemistry with Colborne or Ashton, or someone else already on the roster that could help in the future.

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10-21-2012, 06:19 PM
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Been watching the last few games and he has been undisciplined taking roughing penalties when he doesn't need too. Hope he smartens up and starts producing.

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10-21-2012, 06:26 PM
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it's interesting

people say if prospects aren't good by 22 or 23... then their ****
but i mean didn't it take Datsuk like until 28 or 29 to become the magician you know today?

like what the hell
It's a lot easier to be patient when your team is winning stanley cups rather than dwelling perpetually in the basement. And when the player in question is a 6th round pick rather than 7th overall. Not really a good comparison.

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10-21-2012, 06:29 PM
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I forgot to mention that at 11am we're blaming management for "trading away our young players to early" as if it wasn't the fans that ran them out of town in the first place.

For example we could have Alex Steen, our former 1st round pick, a center with the ability to post 20G-50pt+ over a full season with a rock-solid 2way game on our roster at this moment.. But because he wasn't developing quickly enough we decided to trade him and Cola for a waste of space in Stempniak.
While not a 1st line C by any means, with his 50 - 60 pt play and superb D, I'd be interested what Steen could do for Kessel and Lupul.

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10-21-2012, 06:36 PM
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Why don't you people just watch the games, show some patience and let the players play, and the coaches coach.
what does this mean? we shouldn't make comments and have opinions about how players are doing, and what we think about their performance?

is anyone stopping the players from playing, and the coaches from coaching? or hindering them in any way?

if kadri has 2 goals and 2 assists in his next game, should nobody mention it?

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10-21-2012, 06:39 PM
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I think this next season whenever it is, Kadri will be in the NHL. Whether it is with the leafs or not, I do not know. If it is with Toronto, I get the feeling he will be inconsistent. He has improved immensly in his own end and with his overall play. No doubt he has insane talent, just has to be able to string it together game after game. If it is with a different team, I think Kadri will be insane. I think that motivation of trading him will be the thing that makes it all just click for him. Hate to say it but I think Kadri's BEST playing days will be with another team.

However we did only see a game or two with Kadri under Carlyle. Still undetermined if he will be the thing that allows Kadri to pull it all together.

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10-21-2012, 06:52 PM
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One thing I've noticed watching Marlies games is when they turn the puck over "the play was broken up" but when Naz turns the puck over "Kadri shouldn't have done this or that"....it's double standards, just let him play and he'll learn. They're micro managing the kid

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10-21-2012, 07:10 PM
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One thing I've noticed watching Marlies games is when they turn the puck over "the play was broken up" but when Naz turns the puck over "Kadri shouldn't have done this or that"....it's double standards, just let him play and he'll learn. They're micro managing the kid
Kadri will be a star, some people are just laying the groundwork for him to be shipped out. It will all be just another **** up by MLSE.

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10-21-2012, 07:21 PM
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One thing I've noticed watching Marlies games is when they turn the puck over "the play was broken up" but when Naz turns the puck over "Kadri shouldn't have done this or that"....it's double standards, just let him play and he'll learn. They're micro managing the kid
Wait...the commentators are micromanaging him now? Or are you talking about fan commentary?

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10-21-2012, 07:37 PM
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Kadri will be a star, some people are just laying the groundwork for him to be shipped out. It will all be just another **** up by MLSE.
He may be a star but never in the NHL.

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10-21-2012, 07:42 PM
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10-21-2012, 07:58 PM
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I like Kadri and think he will eventually be a solid NHLer but...

He definitely has not improved at all over the last 2 years. His shot, speed and power have not changed whatsoever. Still has great hands and draws penalties consistently, but also consistently turns the puck over in the offensive zone. Still waiting for him to come to camp and blow me away to the point where its blatantly obvious he should not be in the AHL (like Gardiner).

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Kadri will be a star, some people are just laying the groundwork for him to be shipped out. It will all be just another **** up by MLSE.
For the last two years I believe this to be actually the case.

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10-21-2012, 08:02 PM
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Wait...the commentators are micromanaging him now? Or are you talking about fan commentary?
I don't really know how to respond to this. Are you talking to me or yourself?

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10-21-2012, 08:08 PM
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I'm talking to you. What you said seems like it must either refer to the in-game or intermission commentary, or to fan commentary on here. Either way it's ridiculous and makes absolutely no sense.

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Trade him for Luongo and get it over with. Not ever going to play meaningful minutes as a Leaf.

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10-21-2012, 08:31 PM
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Trade him for Luongo and get it over with. Not ever going to play meaningful minutes as a Leaf.
I always find it funny when people talk in absolutes.

What else should we know about the Leafs in the future? Is Luongo taking us to the promise land?

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10-21-2012, 08:43 PM
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I like Kadri and think he will eventually be a solid NHLer but...

He definitely has not improved at all over the last 2 years. His shot, speed and power have not changed whatsoever. Still has great hands and draws penalties consistently, but also consistently turns the puck over in the offensive zone. Still waiting for him to come to camp and blow me away to the point where its blatantly obvious he should not be in the AHL (like Gardiner).
Exactly.

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10-21-2012, 08:49 PM
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Trade him for Luongo and get it over with. Not ever going to play meaningful minutes as a Leaf.
You realize that comments like these add nothing to the discussion right?

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10-21-2012, 08:52 PM
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I like Kadri and think he will eventually be a solid NHLer but...

He definitely has not improved at all over the last 2 years. His shot, speed and power have not changed whatsoever. Still has great hands and draws penalties consistently, but also consistently turns the puck over in the offensive zone. Still waiting for him to come to camp and blow me away to the point where its blatantly obvious he should not be in the AHL (like Gardiner).
He looks to be stronger on his skates this season, but he was never going to be super fast like the rest of our team. I think he'll get his shot down eventually, but he's more of a pass first guy anyway.

I think the improvement lies in his positioning and awareness of a 200 ft game. Watching pre-season + 80% of the Marlies games it seems to me he has a better head in the defensive zone now.

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10-21-2012, 09:07 PM
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He looks to be stronger on his skates this season, but he was never going to be super fast like the rest of our team. I think he'll get his shot down eventually, but he's more of a pass first guy anyway.

I think the improvement lies in his positioning and awareness of a 200 ft game. Watching pre-season + 80% of the Marlies games it seems to me he has a better head in the defensive zone now.
Are you saying he looks like Connolly 2.0? I am sort of thinking a more nifty slippery Connolly myself just to add.

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10-21-2012, 10:39 PM
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10-21-2012, 10:53 PM
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Im not that worried about kadri's production, hes the type of player that needs to get on a roll. He always starts slow with the marlies, then tears it up (which is funny because it is exact opposite when he is on the leafs).

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If it means Kadri will be a capable and strong NHLer, I have no problem keeping him in the AHL until he is 25. He has so much raw talent that it isn't a question of if he'll ever be a staple in our roster, but when. I think the main problem with bringing up the kid right now, is the lack of size overall in our forward corps. I say keep Kadri down this year, and see if he can blow us away in camp next year. IMO a line of:

JVR - Kadri - Kulemin

Would be a thing of beauty.

Lupul - Bozak - Kessel
Macarthur(Or other) - Grabo - Connolly(Or other)
JVR - Kadri - Kulemin

And roll the 2nd and 3rd lines equally

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