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10-20-2012, 02:33 PM
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1968 Montreal Leads Series (1-0)

Gump Worsley's 31 saves vs. Roger Crozier's 14 the difference as Habs take Game 1.

Only 4 penalties? Wow! I'm used to games with a revolving door on the penalty box lol

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10-20-2012, 09:01 PM
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Group A Semi-Final Series 2

3 Goal Outburst in the Third Breaks Defensive Struggle

10 Chicago Leads Series 1-0




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Great, cant wait to see some of the early ninieties Penguins teams take home the cup in this one!

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Group A Semi-Final Series 1 Game 2

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Great, cant wait to see some of the early ninieties Penguins teams take home the cup in this one!
The first Penguins team is in Group D with the 1990-91 edition. They are in a very winnable group with their toughest opponents being the '74 Bruins and the '11 Canucks.

The '75 Sabres Tie the Series Behind Roger Crozier's 27 Shot Shutout


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10-21-2012, 10:12 PM
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Group A Semi-Final Series 2 Game 2

Same Pattern as Game 1: 1-1 Going Into 3rd with a 3 Goal Outburst. This Time By the Flyers

Series Tied 1-1

Who would win the 2 Fights in the Game?

Byfuglien vs Bob Kelly

Eager vs Schultz


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10-22-2012, 08:58 PM
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Group A Semi-Final Series 1 Game 3

Buffalo's French Connection Shines in the Forum as Sabres Win 4-2

Sabres lead series (2-1)




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10-22-2012, 10:20 PM
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It's cute and all..............but computers cannot replace the human eyeball.
...and vice-versa of course.

With really short seasons like this you'll always get wonky results. With only 36 games normal variance is going to play a big part. And presumably the player ratings are based only on the season in question, so this type of sim builds variance on top of variance. (That is, if a player's normal output is between 30 and 40 goals, and he scored 40 that season, in the simulation he's now going to have a normal output of say 35 to 45 goals.) Flukes can just get flukier.

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10-22-2012, 10:26 PM
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...and vice-versa of course.

With really short seasons like this you'll always get wonky results. With only 36 games normal variance is going to play a big part. And presumably the player ratings are based only on the season in question, so this type of sim builds variance on top of variance. (That is, if a player's normal output is between 30 and 40 goals, and he scored 40 that season, in the simulation he's now going to have a normal output of say 35 to 45 goals.) Flukes can just get flukier.
I've used this simulation. Play a full season using the historical schedule for that season and the individual player stats are usually pretty close to real life with some variation that you might expect. You'll occasionally have a real fluky result but not as often as one might think.

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Hey Bauer, I have this sim but haven't played in quite a while, found another game more to my liking but I appreciate all the work you put into making these videos. It is tough to watch on Youtube though, especially since the text and other elements on the screen are too small to see.
What is the game that You like better?

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10-23-2012, 07:13 AM
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I thought about getting this for Christmas. I'm curious on how in depth the game is.

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10-23-2012, 01:50 PM
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What is the game that You like better?
Inside the Crease from Inside Sports Games. It's not a sim - it's a board game with cards but there is also a computer version that is a faithful translation of the board game. I had played the Stratomatic Hockey board game for 23 years and while it was a lot of fun, there were aspects of the game that were unsatisfying to me and I found Inside the Crease to be a better alternative on many counts.

I played Action PC hockey for awhile but became bored with the whole sim aspect of it while trying to replay a Seals season. But I do like the idea of using a sim game for the kind of project the OP is doing - matching up teams from different eras. It's a fun project to follow.

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10-23-2012, 01:52 PM
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I thought about getting this for Christmas. I'm curious on how in depth the game is.
Oh, it is VERY in-depth. Here is the game company's forum for the game; you can get a lot of info by reading through the posts.
http://actionpcsports.yuku.com/forum...scussions.html

There is a lot of tweaking of the team's strategies you can do as coach. Micro-manage as much or as little as you want.

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10-23-2012, 02:04 PM
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Check out the strategy guide

http://www.dksports.com/download%20f...gy%20Guide.pdf

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10-28-2012, 01:33 PM
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Group A Semi-Final Series 2 Game 3

Flyers Take Back Home Ice in Hard Fought Affair Dominated by Bernie Parent

Philadelphia leads series (2-1)




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Group A Semi-Final Series 1 Game 4

Ralph Backstrom's Second Goal of the Game in the 3rd Breaks Tie to Even Series

Series Tied (2-2)


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Group A Semi-Final Series 2 Game 4

Flyers Prevail With Stifling Defense Allowing Only 15 Shots For the Game

Eager has his 3rd fight and 4th major penalty of the series.

Philadelphia leads series (3-1)



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The goals are too low. Even less than today's gpg.

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10-28-2012, 05:14 PM
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The goals are too low. Even less than today's gpg.
It depends on a variety of factors: What era the game is set for, kind of strategy the computer coach is set to use, the defensive ratings of the teams involved, goalie rating ect.

I've played many games from the 80s era with strategy set accordingly and I routinely get 6-5 scores. In the case of this past game the gentleman posted you have a very tough defensive team in the Flyers coupled with a goalie that has the maximum rating 10. That's tough to score on.

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The goals are too low. Even less than today's gpg.
You have to remember that it's the playoffs. The games are defensive minded, which is exactly what happens in real life. The playoff games in the sim tend to be hard fought and defensive minded. That's one thing that I don't like about other games I've played: those games play the 7th game of the Stanley Cup finals like it's just another game in mid-November. That's not to say there will not be some playoff games that are high scoring affairs, for example, the '83 Oilers are in Group B.

I don't know if you remember Game 6 of the '74 Cup Finals. In spite of the high powered Bruins with Orr and Esposito in the game, the final score was 1-0 with the only goal by Moose Dupont in the first period.

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Group A Semi-Final Series 1 Game 5

Cournoyer's Breakaway Goal the Difference as Habs Take Control of Series

My all-time favorite Hab (that is coming from a non-Hab fan). The Soviets called him the "Big Train", which was kinda strange since he was not at all a big man. I assume they meant the speed and power he had when rushing with the puck down the right wing. I think his North American nickname was more appropriate: the Roadrunner. Does anyone know if he had a different nickname in French? I don't think there were many more players who created more excitement and brought more people to their feet than Cournoyer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iEJD...3C58F08A4D1446

Here are all the goals from Game 2 of the 72 Summit Series. Most of you probably have seen them all many times. For those who haven't, go to about the 1:40 for a typical Cournoyer goal. The excitement he created is one of the reasons I'm a hockey fan and will be until I die, even though the powers that be are trying their best to kill it right now. The first goal of the game is also a typical Phil Esposito goal. The Peter Mahovlich goal was not a typical goal for him, but is one of the greatest goals of all time, no exaggeration, especially given the time and circumstance.

Montreal leads series (3-2)



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Group A Semi-Final Series 2 Game 5

Parent's Second Shutout of the Series Finishes Off the Hawks in 5

Philadelphia win series (4-1) and advance to Group A Finals


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Group A Semi-Final Series 1 Game 6

The Gump Shuts Out the French Connection to Close Out Sabres.

The Gumper, who once had nowhere to sleep and therefore slept in a baby crib in Don Cherry's house, was also the last goalie to play without a mask.



Remember this was the day of Bobby Hull who probably had the hardest slapshot ever. Could you stand between the pipes with no mask and Hull rushing down the wing?

Montreal wins series (4-2)


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Group A Finals Preview

1968 Montreal Canadiens



Actual Results:

Record: 42-22-10 (94 points), Finished 1st in NHL East Division
Coach: Toe Blake (42-22-10)

1967-68 Stanley Cup Champions

Goals For: 236 (3rd of 12), Goals Against: 167 (1st of 12)

Leading Scorers

Jean Beliveau GP-59 G-31 A-37 PTS-68
Bobby Rousseau GP-74 G-19 A-46 PTS-65
Yvan Cournoyer GP-64 G-28 A-32 PTS-60

Leading Goaltender

Gump Worsley GP-40 W-19 L-9 T-8 GAA-1.98 Sv%-.922

Group A Replay Results

Record 18-15-3 (39 Points), Finished 3rd in Group A

Goals For: 125 (3rd of 7), Goals Against: 105 (2nd of 7)

Leading Scorers

Jean Beliveau GP-36 G-31 A-28 PTS-59 (Leading Scorer in Group)
Yvan Cournoyer GP-36 G-16 A-36 PTS-52 (T-2nd in Group)
Dick Duff GP-36 G-16 A-23 PTS-39 (T-8th in Group)

Leading Goaltender

Gump Worsley GP-24 W-10 L-11 OTL-2 GAA-2.56 Sv%-.918

1974 Philadelphia Flyers



Actual Results:

50-16-12 (112 points), Finished 1st in NHL West Division
Coach: Fred Shero (50-16-12)

1973-74 Stanley Cup Champions

Goals For: 273 (5th of 16), Goals Against: 164 (1st of 16)

Leading Scorers

Bobby Clarke GP-77 G-35 A-52 PTS-87
Rick MacLeish GP-78 G-32 A-45 PTS-77
Bill Barber GP-75 G-34 A-35 PTS-69

Leading Goaltender

Bernie Parent GP-73 W-47 L-13 T-12 GAA-1.89 Sv%-.933

Group A Replay Results

Record: 27-6-3 (57 Points), Finished 1st in Group A

Goals For: 134 (1st of 7), Goals Against: 89 (1st of 7)

Leading Scorers

Bobby Clarke GP-36 G-25 A-27 PTS-52 (T-2nd in Group)
Bill Barber GP-36 G-15 A-20 PTS-35 (T-16)
Simon Nolet GP-36 G-15 A-20 PTS-35 (T-16)

Leading Goaltender

Bernie Parent GP-35 W-27 L-6 OTL-2 GAA-2.35 Sv%-.928

Head to Head in Group A

Jan 16 @PHA PHA 4 MTL 1
Feb 1 @MTL PHA 3 MTL 0
Mar 17 @PHA PHA 7 MTL 4
Mar 31 @PHA PHA 3 MTL 2
Apr 7 @MTL PHA 3 MTL 1
Apr 14 @MTL PHA 4 MTL 2

Philadelphia sweeps season series 6-0


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The Gumper, who once had nowhere to sleep and therefore slept in a baby crib in Don Cherry's house, was also the last goalie to play without a mask.
Actually, Andy Brown was the last NHL goaltender to play without a mask.

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Actually, Andy Brown was the last NHL goaltender to play without a mask.
Thanks for the correction. Teaches me to shoot from the top of my head without looking it up. #lessonlearned

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