It is a well-known fact that the KHL is stricter in assigning assists than the NHL.
It's a well know fact...ok Cliff Clavin
The NHL has the same standards for assists.....you pass the puck to player A and he scores you get an assist. You pass the puck to player A who then passes to player B and he scores, you as well as player A gets assists. There is no difference.
What you said was not unrelated. It was a general statement on toughness.
I know this may go over your head, but what is toughness to some may not be toughness to others. Hockey toughness is not the same as being a tough guy, like having the cahones of being the NHL pin cushion or fighting bar patrons.
There's a problem with your assessment of me and the leafs.
What's that problem?
That the FACTS are on my side. The FACTS prove me correct.
The FACTS prove your opinion wrong.
Once again,
10th in g/f then, 10th now.
30th in g/a then, 29th now.
7th last in the standings then, 5th last now.
Higher rated prospects according to pretty much everybody then than now.
Better Marlies ahl season then than now.
If you ACCEPT those facts, then you would see that Burke has been proven with evidence to be a disaster.
But the fact that you choose spin and rhetoric instead of acceptance of facts proves that 'homerism impedes your judgement.'
Jesus I'm surprised you know any words besides "FACT" "SPIN" and "RHETORIC." And despite apparently loathing the latter two in every form (what are you, Fox News?), you're a master at both. All you do in every post you ever make is present information that solely supports your argument, use that cherrypicked information to answer some predetermined, close-ended question, and then pat yourself on the back for being such an impartial ~*~*visionary*~* Points in the standings are NOT the only metric by which we measure GMs. G/A and G/F are NOT of any worth whatsoever without the context of the team behind them. "Pretty much everybody" saying something is NOT a legitimate argument for anything. "Pretty much everybody" is shooting themselves in the face. "Pretty much everybody" thinks JBiebs is the best singer ever. "Pretty much everybody" watches Jersey Shore. Jesus, I don't even like Brian Burke very much, yet here I am defending his tenure because I can't stand your ~*~*"spin and rhetoric"*~* just that much.
Facts, quotes, where's the proof you demand of other posters.
Fact is I always said Grabo was willing to take a hit, he also gets up after being hit, he has a high effort level. Just where am I questioning this one isolated example of toughness?
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This debate of toughness has been waged long and entertainingly here, while some think takes a licking keeps on ticking means toughness, I tend to think the opposite.
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this team is fluff at the moment. Though some are hullicinating that this somehow illustrates toughness.
Yet you say that this is your favourite form of toughness. Can't get that old story straight.
You have questioned his toughness many times in the past too. I don't care to sort through hundreds of pages of your posts to find them. That is not what this is about. I am just telling you, better not catch you bad-mouthing Grabovski's toughness in the future or you'll be seeing your old quote to discredit you an awful lot.
It's true. Just like ice cream causes murder, Kessel caused the Bruins to win the Cup by being traded from them. The two are directly related. Correlation = causation. And that's a fact
I know this may go over your head, but what is toughness to some may not be toughness to others. Hockey toughness is not the same as being a tough guy, like having the cahones of being the NHL pin cushion or fighting bar patrons.
Except you claim your idea of toughness to be the exact opposite in different situations, depending on whether you want to boost a player up or bash him.
The NHL has the same standards for assists.....you pass the puck to player A and he scores you get an assist. You pass the puck to player A who then passes to player B and he scores, you as well as player A gets assists. There is no difference.
I can't believe I'm quoting Bunjay, but:
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Actually, it is. The NHL automatically assigns assists to the last 2 players to touch the puck, the KHL does not as far as I'm aware.
Yet you say that this is your favourite form of toughness. Can't get that old story straight.
You have questioned his toughness many times in the past too. I don't care to sort through hundreds of pages of your posts to find them. That is not what this is about. I am just telling you, better not catch you bad-mouthing Grabovski's toughness in the future or you'll be seeing your old quote to discredit you an awful lot.
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Once again, I support everything I say.
I guess I'll just add this quote to your laundry list of fallacious quotes. Asked you 3 times including this post yet you still can't back it up. Even in your limited definition of what toughness means.
Except you claim your idea of toughness to be the exact opposite in different situations, depending on whether you want to boost a player up or bash him.
Just for the record, you brought up Grabo in a thread of Leafs prospects.
Just for the record, you brought up Grabo in a thread of Leafs prospects.
Actually, you did, with your initial attack of the #2 center of the Leafs. And this isn't even a prospect thread, lol. Shows how much you're paying attention.
And I gave you proof, if you want to ignore it, what else is new. And it is your definition of toughness, using your words.
Actually, you did, with your initial attack of the #2 center of the Leafs. And this isn't even a prospect thread, lol. Shows how much you're paying attention.
And I gave you proof, if you want to ignore it, what else is new. And it is your definition of toughness, using your words.
Well lets see it. You say things but so far provide no proof whatsoever. None.
Posting another posters opinion does not make it a fact.....the NHL and the KHL both assign assists the same way.....so there is no different scoring system.
I posted a couple examples a few posts ago. Not my fault you didn't read it.
And where did I question Grabo's TOUGHNESS? You said I did, you pointed specifically to the post where I posted about Kessel.
I'll do your dirty work for you. As you can see this was a post about the nucleus of the team, if you are going to disagree with me, then disagree with me that Grabo is not always on the wrong end of collisions or that he is overrated. BUT I never claimed he was not tough in your limited definition of what tough is, as you asserted. Just admit it you made that up.
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Not going to sift through 16 pages of replies, but I will say what I said this summer. You need to give up something to get something. This nucleus has been a collective failure and though I do not blame Kessel, as he actually lived up to his billing last year and then some. You can't make a change in the nucleus without moving Phil. Right offer comes along he will be moved. Might as well throw in the guy that picks himself off the ice once or twice a game after he is flattened. That overrated 2C on this team. Wonder who that is?
Posting another posters opinion does not make it a fact.....the NHL and the KHL both assign assists the same way.....so there is no different scoring system.
The NHL assigns assists to two most-recent players in all situations where a player stick came into contact with a puck. Even sometimes when a player is not the 3rd last person to touch a puck, but after that there are only two players touching the puck, an assist is awarded.
They are stricter in the KHL.
Geez, this is a well-known fact. I can't believe I'm even arguing about this.
And where did I question Grabo's TOUGHNESS? You said I did, you pointed specifically to the post where I posted about Kessel.
I'll do your dirty work for you. As you can see this was a post about the nucleus of the team, if you are going to disagree with me, then disagree with me that Grabo is not always on the wrong end of collisions or that he is overrated. BUT I never claimed he was not tough as you asserted. Just admit it you made that up.
