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10-18-2012, 06:32 AM
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Montreal and Calgary


Jay Bouwmeester


Scott Gomez
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Both players have massive contracts, and have been struggling with their current teams. A change of scenery could help both players a lot.

Montreal adds another defenseman while Calgary gets a center and we all know that Calgary needs centers.

Montreal would obviously have to add a bit, maybe a bottom 6 forward or a prospect.

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10-18-2012, 06:39 AM
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10-18-2012, 06:44 AM
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They would have to add 2 out of the following: 1st or Gallagher or Tinordi. A 5th line center with a bottom 6F, that you probably though it would be Bourque, doesn't get you a #2. Not a #$%^ing chance.

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10-18-2012, 06:48 AM
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You are correct, Calgary needs a center. But they don't need another mediocre one with one of the worst contracts in the league. Bouwmeester is much more useful then Gomez.

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10-18-2012, 06:51 AM
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Calgary will never do that. With Cammalleri, Cervenka and Stajan they actually did not look that bad on C.

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10-18-2012, 07:06 AM
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Jay Bouwmeester


Scott Gomez
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Both players have massive contracts, and have been struggling with their current teams. A change of scenery could help both players a lot.

Montreal adds another defenseman while Calgary gets a center and we all know that Calgary needs centers.

Montreal would obviously have to add a bit, maybe a bottom 6 forward or a prospect.
I'm a Habs fan and out of common decency I wouldn't do this trade. The Flames get shafted something fierce. Bouwmeester is a good to very good piece for Calgary. Gomez is.... well this site doesn't allow obscenities.

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10-18-2012, 07:35 AM
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Calgary would never do this. Gomez is virtually untradeable, except maybe for Redden.

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10-18-2012, 08:20 AM
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Calgary would never do this. Gomez is virtually untradeable, except maybe for Redden.
Difference between Redden and Gomez is that Redden is still a player who could play in the NHL on a bottom pairing it is just his contract is holding him back.

Gomez well we all know what he is.

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10-18-2012, 08:22 AM
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Similar salaries except Calgary needs J-Bo and nobody needs Gomez. Well almost nobody. Won't be surprised if he doesn't get any time in the NHL when the season starts.

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To MTL:
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10-18-2012, 08:30 AM
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Difference between Redden and Gomez is that Redden is still a player who could play in the NHL on a bottom pairing it is just his contract is holding him back.

Gomez well we all know what he is.
Yea, but if NYR are willing to bury Redden, they'd be willing to bury Gomez. They both have two years remaining, with 10M of actual salary left. So from the Rangers point of view, having either of the two buried in the minors accounts to the same thing. Montreal may have to throw in a late round pick or something, but that's about it.

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10-18-2012, 08:40 AM
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That + would have to be something just mindblowingly amazing for me to consider it. We have a Gomez in Matt Stajan.

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10-18-2012, 08:49 AM
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At the end of the day, depending on the terms of the next CBA, Gomez will be buried in the minors or be a compliance buyout or traded to a team needing to reach the cap floor. Calgary really isn't a viable option, although he might be worth a look for them on a tryout basis if Gomez is bought out.

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10-18-2012, 08:56 AM
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If the Flames wanted to move Bouwmeester they could still do it with a "real hockey trade" and get good assets back. They wouldn't have to take an albatross deal like Gomez's. Or at least, not such a large albatross. Depending on the teams, there might be some natural cap-balancing elements of the deal, but it wouldn't be taking on a pure dump like Gomez.

Anyway, I'm ok with retaining Gomez for the Habs too. In the increasingly unlikely event that there is any NHL hockey this season, he will get another chance at redemption at a point in time when, again, it doesn't really hurt us to give him that chance. And then he'll either regain some value (unlikely IMHO) or he'll be in a better place to buy out than he has been to date. The Habs would never need to pile up assets just to move Gomez. He's harmless now.

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10-18-2012, 09:10 AM
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Gomez ain't going anywhere

As much as I hate it, Mtl will have to chunk this one in and live with the consequences

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10-18-2012, 09:14 AM
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To Flames fans:

Sorry about this putrid, awful proposal!

Signed: Reasonable Habs fans.

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10-18-2012, 09:17 AM
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The only way this would ever work is if the + is Galchenyuk.

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10-18-2012, 10:06 AM
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The only way this would ever work is if the + is Galchenyuk.
So the deal goes from awful for the Flames to awful for The Habs....

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10-18-2012, 11:02 AM
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Gomez is overpaid and he absolutely blows.

Bouwmeester is overpaid but he is still a good player.

Would have to add a ton to do it, to the point where it isn't worth it.

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10-18-2012, 11:26 AM
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The last thing Montreal needs is another overpaid soft defenceman.

With that said Bouwmeester is still a great defenceman who logs huge minutes. He's worth a ton more than Gomez.

This trade has no basis and nothing you can add will change that. The only thing that will be added are extremes, pieces that would make the deal extremely lopsided. Case in point:

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The only way this would ever work is if the + is Galchenyuk.


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10-18-2012, 11:30 AM
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so the flames trade a legitimate top pairing d-man for an overpaid ahl caliber centre?

get outta here.

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I wouldn't wish Gomez on my worst enemy, for that sole reason the Gomez is staying here

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10-18-2012, 11:54 AM
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Terrible proposal. Thanks to the real Habs fans for thinking its horrible too.

Now for players like Gomez and Redden who's salaries possibly won't be allowed to be buried this could get interesting.

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10-18-2012, 11:55 AM
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As long as the second trade goes down immediatley after...

MTL:
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Gomez's struggling his him barely being an nhl player, Jbo's struggling only being a #2 defenseman. This is terribad unless Montreal adds Galchenyuk.

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