For you Vancouver fans, and I think you know who you are.....lol
You think you have us over a barrel. Keep Lou then and see how that pans out for you.
I know for a fact MG is not stupid enough to send Lou to a division or conferance rival. 2 posters last night tried to tell me that there is 5 or 6 teams that he can go.
They were:
Tampa bay- NO way. they are beeding red ink everywhere and still on the hook for vinny.
Florida-No way possible. Theordore has found his place and has been great. So, why would they want a 33 year old guy with a stupid contract?
Edmonton-Yea, ok. uh huh. Sure. No way in helllo does MG hand over Lou to that Edmonton youth grow op.
Chicago-Sure, sure. If MG sent Lou to Chicago, Van would never go on a cup run again.
Then there is us. Thats it. Burke knows this and is holding the cards. He will not be giving the future away. 2nd rounder and a mid level prospect and a Bozak or a Lombardi. Thats it.
If I was Edmonton, I would really be pushing for Loungo. MG would never send him there though.
Edmonton is absolutely loaded with youth star power. That team up front is deep and super talented. They have a few holes on D though. But with a Loungo in net, those holes will seem a whole lot less deep.
Edmonton is a team on the rise. Give them one more year and watch out.
I am not speaking from a bias point of view. I cant stand the oilers. But i am speaking from a common sense point of view. A Lou trade to Edmonton would be a huge mistake. it would be like throwing gas on a bush fire coming at you.
If I was Edmonton, I would really be pushing for Loungo. MG would never send him there though.
Edmonton is absolutely loaded with youth star power. That team up front is deep and super talented. They have a few holes on D though. But with a Loungo in net, those holes will seem a whole lot less deep.
Edmonton is a team on the rise. Give them one more year and watch out.
I am not speaking from a bias point of view. I cant stand the oilers. But i am speaking from a common sense point of view. A Lou trade to Edmonton would be a huge mistake. it would be like throwing gas on a bush fire coming at you.
Would he waive to go there though? Most guys waive to get out.
I love the "Oh well Keep Lou then" comeback.... like its a bad thing.
Here is where you guys speculate about the going ons in our locker room & how Luongo will become this cancer, even though he has personally said he is ok with being back. But hey why should we trust what the guy who is going to eventually be traded says over your speculation on "whats REALLY going to happen".
I love the "Oh well Keep Lou then" comeback.... like its a bad thing.
Here is where you guys speculate about the going ons in our locker room & how Luongo will become this cancer, even though he has personally said he is ok with being back. But hey why should we trust what the guy who is going to eventually be traded says over your speculation on "whats REALLY going to happen".
So you want us to be grounded in reality, while some of you throw around names like Gardiner + for him? By all means, keep him.
I love the "Oh well Keep Lou then" comeback.... like its a bad thing.
Here is where you guys speculate about the going ons in our locker room & how Luongo will become this cancer, even though he has personally said he is ok with being back. But hey why should we trust what the guy who is going to eventually be traded says over your speculation on "whats REALLY going to happen".
You guys are cup contenders - why would you care what the lowly Toronto Maple Leaf fans think - that is unless you were desperate to get rid of said "cancer" and are upset because we aren't taking the bait.
As far as The Cancer that is Luongo is concerned - keep him - keep him forever
We'll keep our 1sts/prospects forever
Lou is getting old, with our winger depth, I'm starting to lean toward trading frattin or kadri for jonathon bernier. Truth is, the kids got more game breaking potential then both frattin and kadri. Nothing more important than a premier #1 goalie.
You guys are cup contenders - why would you care what the lowly Toronto Maple Leaf fans think - that is unless you were desperate to get rid of said "cancer" and are upset because we aren't taking the bait.
As far as The Cancer that is Luongo is concerned - keep him - keep him forever
We'll keep our 1sts/prospects forever
Everyone will be happy.
Case Closed.
God no! I want Luongo to stay. In fact I pray that Luongo never has to be a Maple Leaf.
Last edited by ThirdManIn: 10-23-2012 at 04:28 PM.
Reason: find a way to reply without flaming
Lou is getting old, with our winger depth, I'm starting to lean toward trading frattin or kadri for jonathon bernier. Truth is, the kids got more game breaking potential then both frattin and kadri. Nothing more important than a premier #1 goalie.
Bernier appears to be the better option of the two.
Not interested in trading either Kadri/Frattin for him though.
A protected 1st+mid range prospect I would consider
We aren't going to get Luongo for free.. Kadri is a prospect at this point... nothing more, maybe he'll be really good, or not. Sometimes you have to take risks. I'm not sure how we would conclude that Luongo's best days are "certainly" behind him...we've seen many goalies play very well into their late 30's.
Quote other people's posts much. I said "almost certainly," turkey. My point is I don't want Luongo at all unless it is at a bargain basement price (MacArthur, Connelly and a 3rd, say). You do not trade away young talented players for a 32 year old goalie who shows lots of signs of wear and tear playing on one of the best teams in the league. Getting Luongo at the price we will have to pay is a good way to insure continued mediocrity.
I love the "Oh well Keep Lou then" comeback.... like its a bad thing.
Hell, no, it's a great thing if you keep him, especially for Toronto. Enjoy his golden years to your heart's content. Or maybe you could try to trade him to Chicago. On the Blackhawks board there's a poll concerning who the team would be better off with, Hossa or Luongo. Hossa leads currently 44-3. I don't think anybody is hot to get Roberto unless the price is right. You may think you are dealing from a position of strength but you aren't.
Hell, no, it's a great thing if you keep him, especially for Toronto. Enjoy his golden years to your heart's content. Or maybe you could try to trade him to Chicago. On the Blackhawks board there's a poll concerning who the team would be better off with, Hossa or Luongo. Hossa leads currently 44-3. I don't think anybody is hot to get Roberto unless the price is right. You may think you are dealing from a position of strength but you aren't.
pot meet kettle.
Thats cool thats how their fans are voting, don't think their GM holds a grudge like their fans do though.
Bernier appears to be the better option of the two.
Not interested in trading either Kadri/Frattin for him though.
A protected 1st+mid range prospect I would consider
Honestly, we have enough goalieith "Potential". I really would want someone more experienced than Bernier. I also happen to think he's overhyped a bit.
They were:
Tampa bay- NO way. they are beeding red ink everywhere and still on the hook for vinny.
Florida-No way possible. Theordore has found his place and has been great. So, why would they want a 33 year old guy with a stupid contract?
Edmonton-Yea, ok. uh huh. Sure. No way in helllo does MG hand over Lou to that Edmonton youth grow op.
Chicago-Sure, sure. If MG sent Lou to Chicago, Van would never go on a cup run again.
TBAY - not at this point
FLA - Ask Tallon? He's been reported as talking to Gillis about a Luongo trade. Luongo + Markstrom is a great situation for the cats.
EDM - Why not? If they give the best pieces for us to win the Cup.
CHI - Why not? If they give the best pieces for us to win the Cup.
Our goal really isn't to make sure other teams keep sucking, it's for use to acquire the player(s) needed to get the big prize.
edit: to add, I see Gillis convincing Luongo to waive for the other 3 teams a lot easier than TO.
Posted on main board, thoughts?
A fair deal would be:
One of Bozak or Connolly
One of Frattin or MacArthur
One of Colborne or a 2nd
Franson or Ashton
For Luongo.
Canucks need a 3c, Bozak or Connolly is a better option then Schroeder
Colborne is a nice prospect or 2nd if preferred.
Mac or Frattin can fill out 2nd or 3rd line.
Gives Canucks much needed depth and probably puts the Leafs in the playoffs. The spot vacated by Frattin or Mac will be filled by Kadri. Who ever is left of Bozak or Connolly will center the top line.
Ashton, Franson and Colborne are good pieces but we will be fine with the excess of bottom 6 prospects we have and d-men.
Posted on main board, thoughts?
A fair deal would be:
One of Bozak or Connolly
One of Frattin or MacArthur
One of Colborne or a 2nd
Franson or Ashton
For Luongo.
Canucks need a 3c, Bozak or Connolly is a better option then Schroeder
Colborne is a nice prospect or 2nd if preferred.
Mac or Frattin can fill out 2nd or 3rd line.
Gives Canucks much needed depth and probably puts the Leafs in the playoffs. The spot vacated by Frattin or Mac will be filled by Kadri. Who ever is left of Bozak or Connolly will center the top line.
Ashton, Franson and Colborne are good pieces but we will be fine with the excess of bottom 6 prospects we have and d-men.
id do connolly, macarthur, franson, and a 2nd would be shocked if vancouver would though.
Posted on main board, thoughts?
A fair deal would be:
One of Bozak or Connolly
One of Frattin or MacArthur
One of Colborne or a 2nd
Franson or Ashton
For Luongo.
Canucks need a 3c, Bozak or Connolly is a better option then Schroeder
Colborne is a nice prospect or 2nd if preferred.
Mac or Frattin can fill out 2nd or 3rd line.
Gives Canucks much needed depth and probably puts the Leafs in the playoffs. The spot vacated by Frattin or Mac will be filled by Kadri. Who ever is left of Bozak or Connolly will center the top line.
Ashton, Franson and Colborne are good pieces but we will be fine with the excess of bottom 6 prospects we have and d-men.
Too much.
Bozak and a 2nd is enough. If they want Franson, toss him in.
For a trade to be made, it has to make sense from Vancouver's perspective as well. Let's get real here, Luongo isn't some crybaby refusing to play for them anymore, nor is he demanding a trade to another team. Vancouver can run with 2 good goalies next year, and have the insurance of still being able to win if bad luck happens and one of them gets hurt. They can then choose to trade one at the deadline, offseason, whatever they want.
The alternative is that for Gillis to trade Luongo, he would have to feel that his team is better after the trade, then it would be if he were to run with 2 solid goalies. Crap offers like Bozak and a 2nd isn't going to accomplish that. If you're trying win a cup now, are you gonna go with having 2 solid goalies or 1 solid goalie and a slightly upgraded 3rd line C + meh prospect who won't help for a few years + 2nd? Deal has to make sense for both sides, it's not going to be a fleecing imo.
