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Nathan MacKinnon vs Connor McDavid

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MacKinnon 99 25.92%
McDavid 283 74.08%
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10-20-2012, 06:49 AM
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Nathan MacKinnon vs Connor McDavid

yes its early.... but I just wonder for those whove been watching both closely, who looks to have the higher ceiling?

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10-20-2012, 07:49 AM
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McDavid's better at the same age.


I'll go with McDavid for the potential, but MacKinnon's a safer bet.

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10-20-2012, 08:15 AM
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The younger prospect - the better prospect

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10-20-2012, 08:47 AM
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Actually, they are to completely different players. One is a dangler and a finesse player and the other is a go to the net guy with explosiveness.

MacKinnon is the most talked prospect since Tavares. All he has done is proving that he's a special player. McDavid is still young but what he is doing right now in the OHL as a 15 yo is amazing.

I'll always go with Nate. IMO, the best prospect since Crosby.

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10-20-2012, 08:58 AM
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10-20-2012, 09:12 AM
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Its McDavid quite easily, if you watched yesterdays game you know why. Also big name scouts are labelling him as a superstar NHL player.

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10-20-2012, 10:57 AM
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MacKinnon is you're "average " first overall pick, McDavid is your potential generational talent. It'll be ten years since Crosby was drafted and McDavid will be up there with Tavares/Crosby then hype wise.

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10-20-2012, 11:04 AM
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Its McDavid quite easily, if you watched yesterdays game you know why. Also big name scouts are labelling him as a superstar NHL player.
This, When i was watching the game yesterday i couldn't believe he was only 15, he was the best player on the ice in my opinion. He came close to scoring twice as well as quite a few nice setups that came close.

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10-20-2012, 11:05 AM
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Crosby.

Seriously. McDavid. Lets just hope he stays hungry and doesn't get complacent.

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10-20-2012, 11:08 AM
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Well Nate is real good. The best Q prospect (not saying that much I suppose) since Sid. But he will likely top out as a top 10 NHL player. Who knows, could prove me wrong (Look at Giroux). From all I've heard about McDavid, he could be the next Sid. Both have high potential but one has been labeled the next "generational superstar".

But who knows, alot can change in a couple of years as both are very young

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10-20-2012, 11:46 AM
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MacKinnon is you're "average " first overall pick, McDavid is your potential generational talent. It'll be ten years since Crosby was drafted and McDavid will be up there with Tavares/Crosby then hype wise.
I'd say MacKinnon is more than just an average first overall pick. He's hyped more than anyone post Crosby save for Tavares (and maybe Kane and Stamkos).

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10-20-2012, 12:05 PM
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I'd take McDavid. Better than MacKinnon at the same age and I think he will be the undisputed top pick in his year whereas MacKinnon has not been number one in all the rankings I've seen.

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Was Stamkos hyped that much? I seem to recall people just treating him like an "average" first overall. The whole "seen Stamkos" phrase was there but I didn't think there was as much talk compared to alot of first overalls.

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I'd take McDavid. Better than MacKinnon at the same age and I think he will be the undisputed top pick in his year whereas MacKinnon has not been number one in all the rankings I've seen.
Who is? Jones? I haven't paid alot of attention to lists yet (I typically due early in the new calender year) but Barkov is probably there with Nate as well. I wouldn't be shocked to see Barkov and Drouin better long term than Nate from everything I've heard/seen.

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10-20-2012, 12:12 PM
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Was Stamkos hyped that much? I seem to recall people just treating him like an "average" first overall. The whole "seen Stamkos" phrase was there but I didn't think there was as much talk compared to alot of first overalls.
I think MacKinnon will be hyped like Lecavalier was. Maybe the hype will be above average for a first overall but as we have seen with Lecavalier, lots of hype does not always mean the player will actually live up to the hype.

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Who is? Jones? I haven't paid alot of attention to lists yet (I typically due early in the new calender year) but Barkov is probably there with Nate as well. I wouldn't be shocked to see Barkov and Drouin better long term than Nate from everything I've heard/seen.
I have seen Jones ranked higher on a couple lists.

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10-20-2012, 12:12 PM
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Woah. I wasn't expecting it to be this much in McDavid's favour.

I guess I'm the minority in picking MacKinnon here.

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Was Stamkos hyped that much? I seem to recall people just treating him like an "average" first overall. The whole "seen Stamkos" phrase was there but I didn't think there was as much talk compared to alot of first overalls.
I don't remember an all out hype of Stamkos before his draft year. I think the hype machine only gets revved up well in advance for what the media deems exceptional status or there is some kind of hook i.e. Mackinnon and Crosby from the same hometown. Mackinnon is no doubt worthy of being a number 1 potential pick... but if his hometown was Fort McMurray... would be get the same hype? Interesting..not sure what the answer would be...

Ekblad doesn't get the hype, he has exceptional status...but plays a less sexy position. We'll see next year if he gets the hype... Jones seems to be getting more hype than Ekblad.... and I think Ekblad is a better player...but of course I have a Canadian bias.

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Actually, they are to completely different players. One is a dangler and a finesse player and the other is a go to the net guy with explosiveness.

MacKinnon is the most talked prospect since Tavares. All he has done is proving that he's a special player. McDavid is still young but what he is doing right now in the OHL as a 15 yo is amazing.

I'll always go with Nate. IMO, the best prospect since Crosby.
From the little I've seen of McDavid in the OHL, I don't know that I agree with that statement. I don't know that he's quite as explosive in terms of his acceleration as Nate, but he's close, and like MacKinnon he can really make plays at top speed. McDavid also seems to have a solid build and great strength on his skates for a 15 year old, definitely has some "crash and bang" to his game (neither MacKinnon nor McDavid are power forwards or big time hitters, but both use their body a lot to protect the puck and separate opponents from the puck, think Crosby or Parise type physicality).

I actually think the two are decently similar players in general. If I had to point out some differences between current McDavid and MacKinnon when he was first entering the Q, I'd say McDavid has smoother hands and a higher hockey IQ, while MacKinnon is a bit more explosive. I think they're on similar levels, but if I really had to pick one for the future, I'd go with McDavid. I think both will be 1st overall picks and allstar #1 centres in the NHL.

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MacKinnon is you're "average " first overall pick, McDavid is your potential generational talent. It'll be ten years since Crosby was drafted and McDavid will be up there with Tavares/Crosby then hype wise.
On pace for 70+ goals, yeah just your average 1st overall pick,

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On pace for 70+ goals, yeah just your average 1st overall pick,
Pace doesn't matter 12 games in. Plus chl scoring always tightens up second half of the season.

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Was Stamkos hyped that much? I seem to recall people just treating him like an "average" first overall. The whole "seen Stamkos" phrase was there but I didn't think there was as much talk compared to alot of first overalls.
He was not, IIRC.

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Pfff, McDavid's just the shiny new toy

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I'd say MacKinnon is more than just an average first overall pick. He's hyped more than anyone post Crosby save for Tavares (and maybe Kane and Stamkos).
Stamkos wasn't hyped tons during his draft year. A lot of people had already turned to Tavares as the next big thing. Yes, Stamkos was the center of attention for that draft year, but he wasn't considered to be as good as people perceive him now. Not sure why that was as he was clearly a dominant player.

Kane was also not hyped a ton because he shared the spotlight with Kyle Turris and James van Riemsdyk.

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MacKinnon is you're "average " first overall pick, McDavid is your potential generational talent. It'll be ten years since Crosby was drafted and McDavid will be up there with Tavares/Crosby then hype wise.
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And I don't think MacKinnon would fit the "average" first pick guy. That woudl be someone like Hall, or RNH. And that's not saying those are average players lol

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McDaxid will be better than MacKinnon. Just like how Tavares was supposed to be better than Stamkos, Larrson was going to better than Hall/Seguin, Yakupov better than RNH, Mackinnon better than Yakupov, etc.

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