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Nathan MacKinnon vs Connor McDavid

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MacKinnon 99 25.92%
McDavid 283 74.08%
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11-09-2012, 04:02 AM
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These are great players , but I think Sam Reinhart is more clutch than Mckinnon and Mcdavid . Sam Reinhart will get you're team Stanley Cups and Sam Reinhart will win Con Smythes . I know this thread is about Mckinnon and Mcdavid but I had to throw Sam Reinhart into the equation .

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11-09-2012, 05:32 AM
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McDaxid will be better than MacKinnon. Just like how Tavares was supposed to be better than Stamkos, Larrson was going to better than Hall/Seguin, Yakupov better than RNH, Mackinnon better than Yakupov, etc.
No professional scout thought that Yakupov would be better than RNH, almost all are thinking that Mackinnon is better than Yakupov and C Mcdavid is more talented than neither one of them and is pretty close to RNH.

Also as of huge fan of Connor and RNH i must say that from past 3 years there has only been one guy who is offensively as talented than these two are and that guy is Teravainen. They all have same kinda playing style and they finesse as hell with them passes.

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11-09-2012, 11:23 AM
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Big MacKinnon fan/proponent and Halifax resident here, but I think the ceiling has to be a bit higher for a 15 year old sharing the same world stage as 17-19 year olds due to his "exceptional status" - especially when you also consider his production to date in the OHL.

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11-09-2012, 11:30 AM
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What McDavid is doing at 15 is about as subtle as a blow horn at announcing who has the higher ceiling between the two players.

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11-09-2012, 12:04 PM
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You hope the lottery is rigged in your favor?

I'm a huge CBJ fan and even I don't want them to rig it for us. That's pretty despicable (rigging the lottery that is).

What I hope for is that it's live and Columbus wins picks #1 (NYR), 2 (LA), and 3 (CBJ). But then if wishes were horses...
Lol. Yes.

We've sucked forever. Time for something to go our way.

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I'm guessing McDavid is still the preferred player here?

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Until McDavid has the opportunity to prove himself at the NHL level I'll go with Mack. McDavid in all likelihood will be the better NHL'er but I still think it's close.

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These are great players , but I think Sam Reinhart is more clutch than Mckinnon and Mcdavid . Sam Reinhart will get you're team Stanley Cups and Sam Reinhart will win Con Smythes . I know this thread is about Mckinnon and Mcdavid but I had to throw Sam Reinhart into the equation .


I don't see how one can say who is more clutch out of these three. Why choose Reinhart out of those three?

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08-07-2014, 08:59 AM
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What is the difference between their ceilings? 5 points. I could see MacKinnion scoring between 85-95 points in his prime and I could see McDavid scoring between 90-100 in his prime. So, his potential is slightly higher. I'd rather have the guy I know will not be a total bust.

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I essentially view it like this: McDavid is more talented than MacKinnon, although I do think MacKinnon's strengths work so well in the modern NHL game that I don't think their production will be all that different when all is said and done. Slightly higher upside than MacKinnon, but maybe not quite Crosby-level.

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08-07-2014, 11:57 AM
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Conner *might* become the better player in the careers, but I have an extremely hard time buying that McDavid will have a better rookie season over MacKinnon. It's not the amount of points Nathan accumulated, since Skinner was able to put around the same number as well. BUT, it's the impact how MacKinnon scored those points. I mean even in the playoffs, he was the sole player where Ryan Suter (top 3-5 defenseman in the league) had to shutdown or bad things happened against the Wild. Since watching his junior career (McDavid), I haven't really since this ability like I saw with Nathan at the same point in time.

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Conner *might* become the better player in the careers, but I have an extremely hard time buying that McDavid will have a better rookie season over MacKinnon. It's not the amount of points Nathan accumulated, since Skinner was able to put around the same number as well. BUT, it's the impact how MacKinnon scored those points. I mean even in the playoffs, he was the sole player where Ryan Suter (top 3-5 defenseman in the league) had to shutdown or bad things happened against the Wild. Since watching his junior career (McDavid), I haven't really since this ability like I saw with Nathan at the same point in time.
Yah Mackinnon is a very special player in his own right, I remember he had something like 7 points in his first 2 playoff games and everyone was preaching he was the next crosby

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Yah Mackinnon is a very special player in his own right, I remember he had something like 7 points in his first 2 playoff games and everyone was preaching he was the next crosby
Agreed, JSC basically sums up my opinion of this thread.

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McDavid will be better than MacKinnon. Just like how Tavares was supposed to be better than Stamkos, Larrson was going to better than Hall/Seguin, Yakupov better than RNH, Mackinnon better than Yakupov, etc.
Both are not even close to Crosby's level, and Eichel is closer in terms of talent to McDavid than Bobby Ryan was to Crosby.

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McDaxid will be better than MacKinnon. Just like how Tavares was supposed to be better than Stamkos, Larrson was going to better than Hall/Seguin, Yakupov better than RNH, Mackinnon better than Yakupov, etc.
Well, who could be so crazy...

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I'd say MacKinnon is more than just an average first overall pick. He's hyped more than anyone post Crosby save for Tavares (and maybe Kane and Stamkos).
Kane doesn't fit here.

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Kane doesn't fit here.
I know points don't mean that much. But Kane had 145 points in 58 games including 65 goals. I don't think McDavid will even scratch that total. Kane although undersized was a very good prospect.

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These are great players , but I think Sam Reinhart is more clutch than Mckinnon and Mcdavid . Sam Reinhart will get you're team Stanley Cups and Sam Reinhart will win Con Smythes . I know this thread is about Mckinnon and Mcdavid but I had to throw Sam Reinhart into the equation .
Given their careers to date, I dont see how you could say Reinhart is more clutch than Mackinnon.

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Given their careers to date, I dont see how you could say Reinhart is more clutch than Mackinnon.
Check the date he posted that.

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Conner *might* become the better player in the careers, but I have an extremely hard time buying that McDavid will have a better rookie season over MacKinnon. It's not the amount of points Nathan accumulated, since Skinner was able to put around the same number as well. BUT, it's the impact how MacKinnon scored those points. I mean even in the playoffs, he was the sole player where Ryan Suter (top 3-5 defenseman in the league) had to shutdown or bad things happened against the Wild. Since watching his junior career (McDavid), I haven't really since this ability like I saw with Nathan at the same point in time.
Well it's not often that the 1st overall pick gets drafted to as production friendly environment as MacKinnon was. I mean most 1st overall picks end up in rebuilding teams with crappy rosters. MacKinnon had an excellent rookie season but let's not pretend that he would've scored as much in FLA/BUF/EDM etc.

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MacKinnon. Admittedly, I'm just taking the "bird-in-hand". It's a big step to translate Junior success to the NHL, and Nathan has proven himself admirably. I hope he doesn't go through a sophomore jinx.

I also wish McDavid well. We need all these young gentlemen to carry us to more Olympic Golds.

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