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10-24-2012, 01:09 PM
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Paajarvi at defense

Personally if a guy like byfuglien can do it I feel like paajarvi is more than capable. He's got the size, the speed, and the defensive acumen and hes already more inclined to pass then shoot. Idk abut other people but when I envision paajarvi as a defenseman I can see him being a pretty damn good defenseman. Its a hard position to learn but he's got the tools, he's done it before and hes gotta be way ****ing smarter than big buff; who made the transition pretty well.

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10-24-2012, 01:12 PM
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I think that he needs to be more willing to engage physically, to play any position.

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If anything, I think center would make more sense.

If he got above average at face-offs, he'd have some decent tools to be a 3rd line C.

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I think he could probably do it, but I would still give him some time at FWD. If he did convert to D, id think he could end up as a Paul Martin or Zbynek Michalek type. Block shots, active stickwork good speed, but not much physical use.

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Personally if a guy like byfuglien can do it I feel like paajarvi is more than capable. He's got the size, the speed, and the defensive acumen and hes already more inclined to pass then shoot. Idk abut other people but when I envision paajarvi as a defenseman I can see him being a pretty damn good defenseman. Its a hard position to learn but he's got the tools, he's done it before and hes gotta be way ****ing smarter than big buff; who made the transition pretty well.
You realize that Byfuglien was a defenseman first right?

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10-24-2012, 01:51 PM
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You realize that Byfuglien was a defenseman first right?
So was MPS

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I have brought this up before. He doens't have the creative skill to play forward. He should be moved to D. I think he could be a Joni Pitkanen type D man.

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I posted this idea a couple of years back and was thoroughly laughed at, but I still think it could be a good idea. Paajarvi was a d-man for most of his formative hockey years so it shouldn't be a huge leap for him to play there again.

I think we should give him another season as a winger to see how he recovers from his sophomore slump. But if we keep seeing the same old "drive wide and put a weak wrister into the goalie's chest" type of plays most of the year, perhaps it would be good to try him on the back end again.

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i disagree that mps has "the size" byfuglien has 50-60 pounds on this kid.. so poor comparison.. plus we haven't seen him skate backwards too much

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10-24-2012, 02:06 PM
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I have brought this up before. He doens't have the creative skill to play forward. He should be moved to D. I think he could be a Joni Pitkanen type D man.
If Shawn Horcoff, who started at LW and converted to C, can have a 10+ year career in the NHL making good money as a forward, I don't see why MPS can't.

The Oilers should maybe consider developing him the same way (see if he can play C).

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If Shawn Horcoff, who started at LW and converted to C, can have a 10+ year career in the NHL making good money as a forward, I don't see why MPS can't.

The Oilers should maybe consider developing him the same way (see if he can play C).
I'm not against either him as a center or defenseman, or a winger, my only concern is if these things are going to be tried, it's probably a good idea to get on them soon.

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If Shawn Horcoff, who started at LW and converted to C, can have a 10+ year career in the NHL making good money as a forward, I don't see why MPS can't.

The Oilers should maybe consider developing him the same way (see if he can play C).
Well, first of all, whether people remember it or not, Horc has shown offensive ability. He did have 72 points one year. Second I don't know why him at C would solve so many problems. HE is a great skater, great size. can't make plays in the offensive zone. I think D is the route you take there.

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I like his speed on the wing and his size on the cycle.

Maybe it's just me but I prefer him as a winger.

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There's a huge difference between a defensively responsible forward, and a defenseman.

He's on track to be a 3rd line forward, and I think that's what he'll be. Why change that?

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I read somewhere that he played goal for one game in pee wee--

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I read somewhere that he played goal for one game in pee wee--
We've finally got our goalie for the future!

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10-24-2012, 10:16 PM
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Magnus Paajarvi; goalie, center, left wing, right wing, left defense, right defense and bench.
He should start coaching, maybe become a gm, buy a franchise and be commissioner for a bit while he's at it.

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So was MPS
Not at higher ranks or anywhere near the equivalent of playing defense your entire childhood career.

Making the transition from defenseman to forward seems to be much easier. We saw it with Vandermeer, and Strudwick on the Oilers alone. I'm not saying they were the successes that Byfuglien was, but to repeatedly state that if "Byfuglien can do it, so can Paajarvi", it follows no logic whatsoever.


This is coming from a guy who wants to try PRV at defense.

Just stop with the Byfuglien comparison. It makes no sense.

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10-24-2012, 10:49 PM
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If Edmonton is hurting for injuries I'd seriously be willing to try it out. He's so damn fast and he's a good passer.

If he's epic fail the whole way through, then pull the plug.

Nobody has mentioned Sergei Federov. He was pretty good on defense with the Wings. Yes, he played defense from time to time when they had Stevy-Y and Larionov.

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If I remember correctly and I know I do, Fedorov played Defence for the Capitals to finish his career.

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I read somewhere that he played goal for one game in pee wee--
Thanks...your post made me chuckle.

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Personally if a guy like byfuglien can do it I feel like paajarvi is more than capable. He's got the size, the speed, and the defensive acumen and hes already more inclined to pass then shoot. Idk abut other people but when I envision paajarvi as a defenseman I can see him being a pretty damn good defenseman. Its a hard position to learn but he's got the tools, he's done it before and hes gotta be way ****ing smarter than big buff; who made the transition pretty well.
You might want to go to the Jets board to see how enamoured they are with Buff on defense...doesn't make for a great comparison.

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If I remember correctly and I know I do, Fedorov played Defence for the Capitals to finish his career.
Fedorov was crazy smart. Not saying MPS is dumb, but his hockey acumen is not on Fedorov's level.

And the MPS to defense idea makes me laugh every time.

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You realize that Byfuglien was a defenseman first right?
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So was MPS
This has been brought up on countless occasions. MPS has defensive tendencies for this very reason. He was either selected as a defenseman first, or B. chose the position himself as a 12 year old. There is smoke here.

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If Shawn Horcoff, who started at LW and converted to C, can have a 10+ year career in the NHL making good money as a forward, I don't see why MPS can't.

The Oilers should maybe consider developing him the same way (see if he can play C).
Pretty sure that Horc played C his whole career or at least most of it at MSU before turning pro.

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This has been brought up on countless occasions. MPS has defensive tendencies for this very reason. He was either selected as a defenseman first, or B. chose the position himself as a 12 year old. There is smoke here.
IMO he should be kept at wing, one thing that I was thinking watching Schultz and Marincin (this applies to Petry as well) when they jump up, Paajarvi's first instinct is to book it to the point spot. This means that we won't be caught too often pinching when he is on the ice. IMO develop him as a PK specialist (his wheels are great for that role), continue to play him on the wing, and see what happens. IMO the tools are there for a long time NHLer, it just might not be in a top 6 role. However IMO he can still be a very important secondary player for us.

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