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10-25-2012, 10:50 PM
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Would you really? That seems steep.
Lets see what oilers fans think!

I believe its at least an offer good enough to make them think about it!

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10-25-2012, 10:53 PM
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From the Pens I'd offer

Joe Morrow or Simon Despres
Scott Harrington or Olli Maatta
1st round pick 2013
2nd round pick 2014

Edmonton goes from arguably the worse defense pool to the best in the NHL within two years.

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10-25-2012, 10:54 PM
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From the Pens I'd offer

Joe Morrow or Simon Despres
Scott Harrington or Olli Maatta
1st round pick 2013
2nd round pick 2014

Edmonton goes from arguably the worse defense pool to the best in the NHL within two years.
The Oilers actually have one of the better defensive prospect pools. Schultz/Klefbom/Marincin/etc

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Lets see what oilers fans think!

I believe its at least an offer good enough to make them think about it!
I think they will point to his salary and that it may hinder their attempts to re-sign Hall, Eberle, RNH. Just a guess. Personally I think it's tough to turn down a goalie like Price. It's tough for me as a Bruins fan to admit that, but I think he's going to be a real thorn in Boston's side for years.

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I think Schneider would benefit the Oilers more than Yakupov.
The Oilers already have two 3 million dollar goalies. What would we do with a third?

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10-25-2012, 10:57 PM
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The Oilers already have two 3 million dollar goalies. What would we do with a third?
Trade one. Dubnyk to New Jersey for a defenseman?

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The Oilers already have two 3 million dollar goalies. What would we do with a third?
My uncle told me: "no teams is ever deep enough at this position!"

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10-25-2012, 11:00 PM
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The Oilers actually have one of the better defensive prospect pools. Schultz/Klefbom/Marincin/etc
Notice how I said in 2 years? 2 years ago they didn't have Klefbom/Shultz/Musil. Reading comprehension is a valuable asset.

I'm not saying the Oilers would do it, I'm just saying this trade would give them a completely restocked defensive prospect pool, and they would have restocked in 2 years (an insanely fast turnaround).

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The Oilers already have two 3 million dollar goalies. What would we do with a third?
Start him and win lots of games. You also already have 2 1st overalls, what to do with a third?

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My Carlson proposal was ignored though he's probably the only clear young #1 D thrown around here.

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OEL (Who isn't available for trade). Someone mentioned that earlier in the thread. I'd do that.

Edmonton has a wealth of wingers now and there are tons more that'll be coming up through the farm team over the next few years.

Even if Hemsky and Yakupov left MPS-Gagner-Pitlick could be a very complete second line within the next 2-3 years.

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From the Pens I'd offer

Joe Morrow or Simon Despres
Scott Harrington or Olli Maatta
1st round pick 2013
2nd round pick 2014

Edmonton goes from arguably the worse defense pool to the best in the NHL within two years.
What're you talking about?

Schultz, Klefbom, Marinincin, Gernat and Musil make Edmonton overloaded with quality d prospects.

Scultz will lead the AHL in points this year and I wouldn't be surprised if he and Marincin ended up being top 5 in +/-. Just wait till Hall laces up the skates.

Scultz will probably end up averaging 1G 2A per night. (Yes, I like to exaggerate, a little).

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As a Montréal fan, I offer Carey Price, Emelin and Tinordi.

Then reunite Yakupov and Galchenyuk!
I wouldnt move Price... He's a top top young goalie in the game. Who's more important to the NYR, Lundqvist or Gaborik?

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10-26-2012, 07:14 AM
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Fan of the Leafs, there isn't a deal to be made for Yakupov with the Leafs due to a combination of a winger being the only strongish positive for the Leafs, and not being able to afford putting together a good deal without giving up too much. The previously mentioned Leafs deals were ridiculous though, no way that would ever get the deal done from an Edmonton POV.

What about Cody Hodgson and Tyler Myers for Yakupov?

Or Cory Schneider and Kassian for Yakupov?

How about Malcolm Subban and Dougie Hamilton for Yakupov?

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I wouldnt move Price... He's a top top young goalie in the game. Who's more important to the NYR, Lundqvist or Gaborik?
what i want to know is if the Edmonton fans would want him!

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10-26-2012, 07:48 AM
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what i want to know is if the Edmonton fans would want him!
Ha well of course they would. What's a more useful addition to RNH/Hall/Eberle? Another elite young winger, or an elite young goalie? Especially since Price is more proven than Yakupov at the NHL level.

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what i want to know is if the Edmonton fans would want him!
Who would be your goalie instead?

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10-26-2012, 08:20 AM
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I like Carlson a lot, and I think he's a decent to good #1D, but I'm not sure he has the same potential to leave his mark on the game that Yakupov does. Since Washington picked up Ribeiro, maybe Yakupov + something for Carlson and Laich? I think Laich could be a great fit for #2C on the Oilers.

Couture + Clowe for Yakupov is a great basis for a deal from an Oilers perspective, IMO. Not sure if the Sharks would do it though, with an aging Thornton and a guy like Hertl a few years away from making an impact.

Price + Emelin + Tinordi is very solid offer. Price is a top young goalie and would make the Oilers a playoff team, IMO. Emelin and Tinordi are both huge shutdown guys who could play on the 2nd or 3rd pairing (Tinordi with an outside chance at 1st pairing, IMO), and would really round out our up and comers like Schultz, Klefbom, and Marincin. For salary purposes, we would probably need to include Dubnyk, which may or may not require a small throw in from Montreal.

Schneider + Edler would be a great deal if it didn't mean shipping Yakupov off to a division rival.

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To be honest if it were Schneider and Edler both another piece might have to come our way(Gagner maybe?).

Schneider within the division means a lot more than a scoring winger.

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Fan of the Leafs, there isn't a deal to be made for Yakupov with the Leafs due to a combination of a winger being the only strongish positive for the Leafs, and not being able to afford putting together a good deal without giving up too much. The previously mentioned Leafs deals were ridiculous though, no way that would ever get the deal done from an Edmonton POV.

What about Cody Hodgson and Tyler Myers for Yakupov?

Or Cory Schneider and Kassian for Yakupov?

How about Malcolm Subban and Dougie Hamilton for Yakupov?
The bolded is somewhat intriguing.

Schneider and Kassian... really?!?!... I don't see the value there at all.

Two years ago I would have been willing to do Hodgson + Myers, but a little concerned about Hodgson still...

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What about Cody Hodgson and Tyler Myers for Yakupov?

Or Cory Schneider and Kassian for Yakupov?

How about Malcolm Subban and Dougie Hamilton for Yakupov?
I would do any of those if I was Edmonton.

Hodgson - Two-way top 6 centre. Unlikely to hit the #1 C aspirations people thought he would a few years ago, but he solidifies Edmonton down the middle with RNH/Hodgson
Myers - Gives you a true pillar to build around on the blueline. He's that potential high end piece Edm is missing back there.

Fills two major holes.

Schneider - One of the best young goalies in the league. Has put up better numbers than Luongo, who has been a top 10 goalie for a long time. Edm would be greatly improved with elite goaltending
Kassian - Edm could use a bit more size/grittiness in their top 6. Not the best piece out of all of these, but still fills a need

Fills one major hole and one minor hole

Hamilton - Arguably the best defence prospect in the world. Has the size, skill, and skating to be a true franchise D.
Subban - A big question mark as he was JUST drafted, and goalies take a while. But he looks GREAT. Would instantly become Edmontons best hope for a #1 Goalie down the line. In a few years, Edm would have a great group of forwards, a great D corps, and hopefully a budding star in net to play behind a solid team

Potentially fills two major holes

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Keeping Yakupov, who is fairly redundant since Edm already has Hall/Eberle (not to mention Hemsky). The team doesn't need three franchise wingers. They need another Centre, a top end D, and a #1 G. Trading Yakupov could go a long ways to filling a few holes and making the team much more competitive

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The bolded is somewhat intriguing.

Schneider and Kassian... really?!?!... I don't see the value there at all.

Two years ago I would have been willing to do Hodgson + Myers, but a little concerned about Hodgson still...
Cody played 83 NHL games last year, 41 points, with an average of 13:49 playing time a game... not bad production really in his first real year in the league.

He's tied for the AHL scoring lead with nine points in six games....

Interesting stats... seconds on the ice, for every point scored...

1 PIT Sidney Crosby 658.8108108
2 PIT Evgeni Malkin 867.6605505
3 WSH Nicklas Backstrom 1096.772727
4 TBL Steven Stamkos 1116.721649
5 OTT Jason Spezza 1138.095238
6 VAN Henrik Sedin 1159.135802
7 DET Pavel Datsyuk 1226.567164
8 BOS Tyler Seguin 1228.298507
9 NJD Patrik Elias 1236.807692
10 NYI John Tavares 1249.234568
11 EDM Ryan Nugent-Hopkins 1259.076923
12 CHI Jonathan Toews 1293.859649
13 SJS Joe Thornton 1307.74026
14 DET Valtteri Filppula 1343.863636
15 SJS Logan Couture 1369.846154
16 BOS Rich Peverley 1374.785714
17 LAK Anze Kopitar 1381.052632
18 BOS David Krejci 1407.983871
19 BOS Patrice Bergeron 1409.90625
20 DAL Mike Ribeiro 1411.873016
21 WPG Kyle Wellwood 1469.553191
22 TBL Vincent Lecavalier 1482.44898
23 MTL David Desharnais 1489.05
24 PIT Jordan Staal 1491.72
25 NYR Brad Richards 1509.545455
26 CAR Eric Staal 1513.485714
27 DET Jiri Hudler 1522.8
28 CGY Olli Jokinen 1528.42623
29 TOR Mikhail Grabovski 1532.235294
30 NJD Adam Henrique 1580.117647
31 MIN Mikko Koivu 1601.25
32 CAR Jeff Skinner 1624.727273
33 NSH Mike Fisher 1633.411765
34 NSH David Legwand 1635.056604
35 EDM Sam Gagner 1643.617021
36 SJS Joe Pavelski 1661.508197
37 VAN, BUF Cody Hodgson 1678.219512
38 COL Paul Stastny 1682.849057
39 COL Ryan O'Reilly 1724.563636
40 FLA Stephen Weiss 1726.315789
41 MTL, CGY Mike Cammalleri 1748.195122
42 WSH Marcus Johansson 1753.043478
43 TOR Tyler Bozak 1755.106383
44 STL David Backes 1820.703704
45 NYR Derek Stepan 1826.509804
46 NYI Frans Nielsen 1826.680851
47 ANA Ryan Getzlaf 1862.982456
48 VAN Ryan Kesler 1893.571429
49 LAK Mike Richards 1905.5
50 MTL Tomas Plekanec 1939.326923


Note, I only included the top 60 points scoring C's..., plus Crosby


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The bolded is somewhat intriguing.

Schneider and Kassian... really?!?!... I don't see the value there at all.

Two years ago I would have been willing to do Hodgson + Myers, but a little concerned about Hodgson still...
Yeah, it's cool because no way in hell would Buffalo offer Myers straight up for Yakupov, let alone Myers plus Hodgson.

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There is no way that Gardiner is worth yakupov. Honestly not even close. Plus we have Schultz now.

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Who would be your goalie instead?
i think Montreal is going to miss the playoff anyways. So i dont mind have Budaj and Desjardins for one season.

I would wait for a good opportunity to acquire a goalie.

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