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12-06-2012, 02:53 PM
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Expansion?? HEEEEEEEEELLLLL NO. After all this contraction is more likely than expansion. Quebec will eventually get their team, but it'll be from relocation of an existing team
Contraction only makes sense for a professional sports league if there isn't at least one market interested in having a team that doesn't already have one. And, by my count, Quebec City's ready now, Seattle's on the verge of being ready, and Hamilton, while likely a place that the NHL would rather not go, is apparently working on an arena refurbishment that would like bring Copps up to code enough that, if push came the shove, they'd rather roll over Toronto/Buffalo's wishes rather than suffer the embarrassment of having a franchise outright die.

Heck, the NHL would probably let a team in Saskatoon before they seriously contemplated contraction. So long as someone has the money to fork over, it's better than having a team die and especially buying out a team or two to contract in the NHL's mind.

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12-15-2012, 09:09 PM
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Is this a sign? http://www.flickr.com/photos/mayorsm...n/photostream/

This was taken at a recent charity game between some locked out NHL players... Go Nordiques Go!

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Is this a sign? http://www.flickr.com/photos/mayorsm...n/photostream/

This was taken at a recent charity game between some locked out NHL players... Go Nordiques Go!
awesome, game was played in Aneheim no less!

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Is this a sign? http://www.flickr.com/photos/mayorsm...n/photostream/

This was taken at a recent charity game between some locked out NHL players... Go Nordiques Go!
Here's the link to the full photo gallery:

http://mayorsmanor.com/2012/12/photo...me-in-anaheim/

That was a charity for a Pee Wee team, I assume that'll help those kids pay for their trip to the Quebec City Pee Wee Tournament in February. Those guys can't wear their usual jerseys because of the lockout either. Nords jersey still looks good

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Mayor Labeaume confirmed the city will be candidate to host the 2015 WJC and it will not be paired with Montréal as the rumors suggested. By 2015, the city will have 2 arenas that can host a total of ~33 000 people, which could end up being an advantage.


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Voilà maintenant plus de 30 ans que le Championnat mondial junior de hockey a été présenté ici, au Québec. La dernière fois, en 1978, Wayne Gretzky portait l'uniforme canadien; c'est tout dire.

Pourtant, la compétition pourrait revenir très vite dans la Belle Province. On savait que le Canada disposait des droits pour les années 2015, 2017, 2019 et 2021, mais c'est maintenant confirmé : Québec s'est portée candidate pour la présentation de l'édition de 2015.

«Nous allons devenir candidats», a indiqué jeudi le maire de la ville, Régis Labaume.

Le tournoi pourrait donc devenir le premier événement majeur à être présenté dans le nouvel amphithéâtre de la Vieille Capitale.

«Notre intérêt est là, a affirmé Claude Rousseau, le président des Remparts de Québec. On veut bâtir un comité organisateur, comme nous l'avons fait avec le Championnat mondial en 2008. On souhaite accueillir ce tournoi chez nous le plus tôt possible.»

Pour l'instant, il n'est pas question de présenter une candidature conjointe avec Montréal, puisque Geoffe Molson et les Canadiens de Montréal ont aussi démontré un intérêt.

«On verra, je ne ferme pas la porte à plusieurs avenues, mais si nous avons les infrastructures nécessaires, pourquoi ne pas le faire chez nous?» a poursuivi Rousseau, tout sourire.

«On aura à ce moment-là deux amphithéâtres collés, a fièrement noté Régis Labaume. Ce qui veut dire que tous les matchs pourront se jouer à Québec, avec quelque chose comme 30 000 billets par jours disponibles pour les matchs de hockey!»
http://tvasports.ca/hockey/le-champi...-2015-20122012

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Yes! Yes! Yes!

The Junior tournament is going to be awesome! What an awesome way to open the new arena!

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12-21-2012, 01:47 PM
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The remparts will also ask for the 2015 memorial cup

If the nords are back thats way too much hockey( nords, remps, world juniors, mem cup)

ticket packages for the world juniors were over 1200$ last year in calgary/edmonton

I dont see it selling well after paying 2000$-5000$ for nhl tickets, if theres no nhl if will sell very well for sure

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The remparts will also ask for the 2015 memorial cup

If the nords are back thats way too much hockey( nords, remps, world juniors, mem cup)

ticket packages for the world juniors were over 1200$ last year in calgary/edmonton

I dont see it selling well after paying 2000$-5000$ for nhl tickets, if theres no nhl if will sell very well for sure
Doughtful they will get the Memorial cup. It was in Québec in the 90's. There are market in the Q that still did not get it.

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The World Juniors in MY city? Where do I sign!

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The World Juniors in MY city? Where do I sign!
come in my office the contract is ready , could you put a lot of weight on your pen , the 4th copy is to resolve the lockout .

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The world junior championship in the new arena would be kick ass

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I think that's the plan , Playing the key games in the new arena and the games that will draw lower interest will be played in the old Collisée.

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Mayor Labeaume confirmed the city will be candidate to host the 2015 WJC and it will not be paired with Montréal as the rumors suggested. By 2015, the city will have 2 arenas that can host a total of ~33 000 people, which could end up being an advantage.



http://tvasports.ca/hockey/le-champi...-2015-20122012
The year of a World Junior Championship is determined by the month of january. For example, this year tournament is the 2013 IIHF World Junior Championship, played in december 2012 and january 2013.

So, the 2015 IIHF World Junior Championship will be played in december 2014 and january 2015. The new arena won't be ready until september 2015; it will be impossible to play the tournament in the 2 arenas. Mayor Labeaume and the journalist don't seem to know that detail.

But in 2017 or 2019, that would be great. Or, in 2015 with Montréal.

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Doughtful they will get the Memorial cup. It was in Québec in the 90's. There are market in the Q that still did not get it.
It was in Quebec in 1991 and 2003. Maybe they are trying to get it every 12 year? Also from what I remember, the 2003 cup broke attendance records and that was back when Halifax was still leading the league in attendance. If they could draw 8000+ fans a game at the Memorial cup while drawing 5000-6000 at Remparts during the season, imagine how high they would draw for the tournament while they draw 11000-12000 per game at remparts (granted, the Nords return would most likely hit Remparts hard, but I wouldn't be surprised if a Memorial Cup was still a big draw).

I think Quebec should wait 2017 for the championship, though. I hated how at the 2008 IIHF championship every game involving Russia and/or Canada except the two finals were played in Halifax instead of Quebec because they split the tournament. I would like to see the entire thing be played in Quebec in 2017, which will have two arena then. That said, if they do that, I hope that most week games are played during evening, unlike the IIHF championship, which played every game during afternoon, otherwise it will most likely be a poor draw.


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I'm thinking of buying a Nordiques Sakic jersey but I don't know if I should get 88 or 19.


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I'm thinking of buying a Nordiques Sakic jersey but I don't know if I should get 88 or 19.
19. Sakic only wore the 88 for a season and it's not a number fondly remebered by Nords fans.

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19. Sakic only wore the 88 for a season and it's not a number fondly remebered by Nords fans.
Much appreciated! I'm not old enough to have witnessed him wear 88 so I was unaware. I also dislike 88 because of The Big E, so this is a plus.

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Much appreciated! I'm not old enough to have witnessed him wear 88 so I was unaware. I also dislike 88 because of The Big E, so this is a plus.
Never heard of him.

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Lindros?

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Lindros?
Who? We dont know such a guy in Québec.

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19. Sakic only wore the 88 for a season and it's not a number fondly remebered by Nords fans.
There are actually two explanations for this.

The first one, that I remember from the old days, is that coach Bergeron asked Sakic to give up number 88 because he tought Sakic looked like a stock car driver with number 88 on his back. Bergie suggested number 19 to Sakic, since his style of play looked similar to Yzerman's. A recent article seems to confirm this story.

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À mon retour chez les Nordiques en 1989, j'avais demandé à Joe Sakic d'abandonner le numéro 88 pour un chiffre plus conventionnel comme le 19. Il s'était plié de bonne grâce à ce changement. [...] Je trouvais qu'il avait l'air d'un coureur de stock-car avec le numéro 88 dans le dos. Son style s'apparentait beaucoup à celui de Steve Yzerman, le numéro 19 chez les Red Wings de Detroit. Ce numéro était disponible à Québec puisque le valeureux Alain Côté venait de quitter.
http://www.lapresse.ca/le-soleil/spo...-et-goulet.php
The again, a quick search on Wikipedia suggests that Sakic only took number 88 because number 19 was owned by Alain Côté, a veteran that retired after Sakic's rookie campaign.

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During [his rookie] season, he wore #88 because his preferred number, #19 was already taken by a teammate, Alain Côté. [...] In 1989–90, his second NHL season, Sakic was able to switch his number back to his familiar #19 (Alain Côté had retired over the summer).
source : Morrison, Scott (2007). Hockey Night in Canada By the Numbers: From 00 to 99. Toronto: Key Porter Books Ltd.. p. 232.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Sakic
Considering the fact that Sakic wore number 19 with the Swift Current Broncos, it would seem reasonable to think that this second explanation is the right one.

Edit : http://www.amazon.ca/SAKIC-Current-B.../dp/B006T89P1M


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Who? We dont know such a guy in Québec.
The guy who single-handedly brought the franchise a cup!

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The guy who single-handedly brought the franchise a cup!

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Qc can't afford an expansion

In this article a sport marketing expert said that Qc can get a team only by relocation. A bidding war for an expansion would be too expensive.

http://translate.google.ca/translate...uveaux-joueurs

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Expansion or relocation?

If the NHL chooses to move a team, Quebec is a prime candidate, according to Richelieu. Expansion, he believes, would be too costly for the Old Capital.

"Quebec does not have the means to participate in bidding under expansion. The only chance to get a Quebec NHL team is moving through a franchise in difficulty and at a reasonable price, comparable to that Winnipeg has paid for the Atlanta Thrashers. "
I'm not an expert but I don't agree with this. Of course Qc isn't big like Seattle. But I can't see someone offering more money than PKP for a hockey team. There are no risk with Qc, other markets are risky in my book (except Markham but they don't have the arena). An investor will always be willing to pay more for a team if he's sure of having the good market.

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Agreed, seems like a fairly weak argument to make. Quebec has a very wealthy potential owner as well as an apparent media deal already set up the second the puck first hits the ice which would pave the road for them to a quicker path to profitability that most other expansion targets. Seems like PKP would be more than willing to offer more money for a team than just about any other ownership group, north or south of the border.

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