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Why hasn't either side proposed a deal that limits or freezes ticket prices?

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10-26-2012, 08:12 AM
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Why hasn't either side proposed a deal that limits or freezes ticket prices?

That would be akin to tossing a live hand grenade in the other side's court. Greed is probably the big reason but if you want to destroy the other side from a PR standpoint then propose a deal that actually takes what the fan's pay in tickets in consideration.

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As a Bruins STH... I was given 2 options:

Option 1: All games not played get refunded into your account + 3% APR. By selection this option, you automatically renew for the 2013-2014 season with a price freeze on your tickets.

Option 2: All games not played get refunded in the form of a check + 1% APR. No price freeze, and you are not locked into next season.

So essentially by picking option 1 I get a price freeze which I am all over. My tickets since 2008 have gone from $19 to $21 to $25 to $32.

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10-26-2012, 08:18 AM
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That would be akin to tossing a live hand grenade in the other side's court. Greed is probably the big reason but if you want to destroy the other side from a PR standpoint then propose a deal that actually takes what the fan's pay in tickets in consideration.
Unfortunately, neither side gives a hoot about the fans...supply vs demand can be ugly sometimes...

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10-26-2012, 08:19 AM
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They used that as a PR ploy last time and within a year most teams had raised prices.

At least we got those really cool "Thank you Fans" messages painted on the ice.

Maybe they are planning to break out a really cool new font this time around?

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Unfortunately, neither side gives a hoot about the fans.
This is your answer folks. If they gave a crap about us fans, maybe theyd be meeting and tabling offers more than once every few weeks. What a joke this league is.

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The Bruins DID freeze STH prices if they opted to renew their tickets for 2013-2014.

I am not sure about other NHL teams.

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10-26-2012, 08:30 AM
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The Bruins DID freeze STH prices if they opted to renew their tickets for 2013-2014.

I am not sure about other NHL teams.
How nice of them to freeze prices for the fans when they are in the middle of their 2nd lockout in 8yrs!! All teams should freeze/lower prices for 3-5 years after this

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Because they don't care?

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They used that as a PR ploy last time and within a year most teams had raised prices.

At least we got those really cool "Thank you Fans" messages painted on the ice.

Maybe they are planning to break out a really cool new font this time around?
Given how much consideration fans have gotten, it most likely would be comic sans.

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They don't care about the fans and why would they limit their own revenue potentials?

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Because that wouldn't be beneficial to either side.

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No need for that, everyone knows that the fans will be back and willing to pay high ticket prices.

They don't care about the fans, because they don't have to.

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That would be akin to tossing a live hand grenade in the other side's court. Greed is probably the big reason but if you want to destroy the other side from a PR standpoint then propose a deal that actually takes what the fan's pay in tickets in consideration.
Because both sides need us to pay as much as possible. A bigger HRR means a bigger pay cheque for everyone.

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Jets STHs had a similar deal.

EDIT - and Jets STHs are locked in for their contracts (3-5 year terms), and this year is a null year which doesn't apply to the contract length.

But those prices are so cheap! Jealous......

I'd hope a ticket price freeze or cut would be in the deal, but thats wishful thinking.


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As a Bruins STH... I was given 2 options:

Option 1: All games not played get refunded into your account + 3% APR. By selection this option, you automatically renew for the 2013-2014 season with a price freeze on your tickets.

Option 2: All games not played get refunded in the form of a check + 1% APR. No price freeze, and you are not locked into next season.

So essentially by picking option 1 I get a price freeze which I am all over. My tickets since 2008 have gone from $19 to $21 to $25 to $32.

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That would be akin to tossing a live hand grenade in the other side's court. Greed is probably the big reason but if you want to destroy the other side from a PR standpoint then propose a deal that actually takes what the fan's pay in tickets in consideration.
Neither sides would propose that because it doesn't make any sense for either side.

If the owners lowered ticket prices, they would lose even more money, hence the need for even lower salaries. The players could easily counter that by agreeing to take less for the fans while not going any further. The owners would be in the same situation as before, only with no chance to ask for more.

The players would never offer it, because they would get less money, and they don't want to see even a cent less than they currently do, there is no real gain for them. The owners, on the other hand, could ask for even more, as their problems haven't been considered at that point.

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Jets STHs had a similar deal.

EDIT - and Jets STHs are locked in for their contracts (3-5 year terms), and this year is a null year which doesn't apply to the contract length.

But those prices are so cheap! Jealous......

I'd hope a ticket price freeze or cut would be in the deal, but thats wishful thinking.
I am in the last row.. AKA the cheapest price point, FWIW

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Supply and demand.

I've never understood complaining about ticket prices.

Owner's will charge what the market will tolerate. If the price of a ticket is too expensive watch the game at home. To be honest, I'd rather watch it at home anyway. HD, no parking, no traffic, cheaper snacks and beer and no restroom line ups.

When buildings empty, owner's will lower prices to get people in the building.

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What pray tell would be the point of lowering ticket prices other than making less money. It would allow someone who couldnt afford to go to a game the abilty to go at teh expense of someone who would be willing to pay more, or more realistically it would allow scalpers the ability to make more money since the tickets are being priced below what market factors indicate they should be. It would be a detriment to both the owners adn players since they share in revenues.

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Why hasn't either side proposed a deal that limits or freezes ticket prices?

Seriously?

How about because we all know that even if the NHL came out and got the NHLPA to accept a CBA where salaries were all cut by shifting the decimal point 2 spots to the left ( IE: $8,000,000 becomes $80,000 ) there is NO WAY IN you know where, that the owners would ever drop ticket prices.

Neither side cares about us sheep.

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Ticket prices are driven purely by supply-demand economics, there is no way any serious professional sports league would artificially limit them through a CBA provision.

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Why are people mad about the lack of artificial tabs on prices?

If they froze ticket prices, I would become a full time scalper. Would probably pay me more than most part time jobs.

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The NHLPA has no hand in setting ticket prices. That takes care of why one side hasn't proposed it.


The reason the NHL hasn't proposed a freeze on ticket prices should be self-evident. In this instance, they believe that the market should set the price. The market can demand far fewer tickets.

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