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10-28-2012, 05:22 AM
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It goes both way, how much it would take to pry one of the big four to a division rival ? (Plus, i dont think Edmonton is the one making the 'prying' here)

if one of the big four is on the table, Schneider wont be the only goalie available for them to trade for.

As a Montreal fan, i gladly offer Price+ for any of the big four.
Just stating what it would take for Edmonton to get Schneider, never did I say Edmonton would accept.

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10-28-2012, 06:09 AM
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LOL thanks for stating the obvious. As for Edmonton not doing the "prying" Why not? Aren't they interested in acquiring a goalie?
Did you ever see a Schneider to Edmonton thread originating from an Edmonton fan?


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10-28-2012, 09:26 AM
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Finally....

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Haven't us Canucks fan learned anything from the Luongo thread?

Luongo is old and past his prime.

Schneider is inexperienced.

Both our goalies suck!
An honest Canucks fan?

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10-28-2012, 10:10 AM
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If Edmonton wants Schneider, one of the big four is coming back. Would Edmonton be willing to part with one of the big four, probably not. However that's what it would take to pry Schneider to a divisional rival.
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10-28-2012, 11:19 AM
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It goes both way, how much it would take to pry one of the big four to a division rival ? (Plus, i dont think Edmonton is the one making the 'prying' here)

if one of the big four is on the table, Schneider wont be the only goalie available for them to trade for.

As a Montreal fan, i gladly offer Price+ for any of the big four.
Man people on this board are fascinated w young players to the point of being creepy. Habs would be much better of keeping Price.

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10-28-2012, 11:31 AM
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Man people on this board are fascinated w young players to the point of being creepy. Habs would be much better of keeping Price.
Every single Habs fan other than palindrom would agree with you. Palindrom stated the same thing once before and got shot down very quickly.

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10-28-2012, 11:33 AM
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As many people have said in this thread before, trading big assets like this to a divisional rival is very unlikely to happen.

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10-28-2012, 12:22 PM
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I love Price, i hate his contract. (under the last CBA at least)

We could reach an agreement, if Schneider was the only option available to trade Price.

But there would be other options around. And i would rather trade Price for defenseman/forward/pick. Since i dont value goalie that much
Clearly. Apparently Budaj is suddenly amazing or something?

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10-28-2012, 12:25 PM
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Edm is not looking for a goalie so why would we give up assets for a goalie!!!!!!!!!!

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10-28-2012, 12:27 PM
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Name one goalie in the league that would get you a 1st over all pick. There is not one goalie in the league that could. NOt Miller, not Price, definately not Schneider. All this crazy talk of one of the big 4 for a top goalie is crazy. When in the last 15 yrs a goalie got a 1st over all pick. NEVER!!!!

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10-28-2012, 12:31 PM
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Name one goalie in the league that would get you a 1st over all pick. There is not one goalie in the league that could. NOt Miller, not Price, definately not Schneider. All this crazy talk of one of the big 4 for a top goalie is crazy. When in the last 15 yrs a goalie got a 1st over all pick. NEVER!!!!
It would obviously be Schneider++, as has been mentioned numerous times.

I'd also be fine with Eberle, who wasn't a first overall pick, too though.

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10-28-2012, 01:03 PM
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Edm is not looking for a goalie so why would we give up assets for a goalie!!!!!!!!!!
Exactly. They just gave Devan Dubnyk a Luongo like cap hit.

The Oilers are spending almost as much as the Canucks on their goaltending duo.

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10-28-2012, 01:07 PM
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NHL players, managers, coaches: A good goalie is the most important part of a team. Build from net out.

HF posters: Why do we need a goalie? We have 20 year old wingers and draft picks.

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10-28-2012, 01:11 PM
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Edm is not looking for a goalie so why would we give up assets for a goalie!!!!!!!!!!
This may be the case, but it will haunt the Oilers until they decide to upgrade the position. Dubnyk will never be anything special at the NHL level. Has poor skill set that will get worse over time. His legs are far too slow. Never understand why Edmonton signed him to that deal. Better hope all these young forwards work out because they'll need to score a lot of goals with Dubnyk in net going forward. He'll be lucky to carve out an Alex Auld-like career.

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10-28-2012, 01:20 PM
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An honest Canucks fan?
Which is why they won the Jennings in the 2011 season.

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10-28-2012, 01:58 PM
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Exactly. They just gave Devan Dubnyk a Luongo like cap hit.

The Oilers are spending almost as much as the Canucks on their goaltending duo.
Dubnyk's cap hit is $3.5 million and he is on a 2 yr deal.

If you think that is Luongo like, you are either dyslexic or I can see why you think the rest of the league should be lining up to trade for Bobby Luo.

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Dubnyk's cap hit is $3.5 million and he is on a 2 yr deal.

If you think that is Luongo like, you are either dyslexic or I can see why you think the rest of the league should be lining up to trade for Bobby Luo.
You just take those numbers and swap em!

Either way, people who need a goalie should be interested in Luongo.

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10-28-2012, 02:43 PM
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Exactly. They just gave Devan Dubnyk a Luongo like cap hit.

The Oilers are spending almost as much as the Canucks on their goaltending duo.
Nope. Didn't give him 10+ years either. Try again and stop making **** up, seems to be a bit of a failing of yours.

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10-28-2012, 02:47 PM
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You just take those numbers and swap em!

Either way, people who need a goalie should be interested in Luongo.
i dont know any people who need a goalie!

Some teams need a goalie, but not people.

What do you want someone to do with a goalie? Why would they need one?

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Exactly. They just gave Devan Dubnyk a Luongo like cap hit.

The Oilers are spending almost as much as the Canucks on their goaltending duo.
What?

I agree he's overpaid but Luongo like?

3.5 for 2 years
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5.3 for 10 years...

Combined goalie cost?

Vancouver @ 9.3m
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Edmonton @ 7.25m

With good reason, Vancouvers goalies are obviously way better but with the way the lockout negotiations are going Khabibulin's contract will be over before we see hockey again and Dubnyks deal will essentially be one year.

I don't mind a slight overpayment if it's only a year.

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10-28-2012, 03:29 PM
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i dont know any people who need a goalie!

Some teams need a goalie, but not people.

What do you want someone to do with a goalie? Why would they need one?
Because that is clearly what I meant.

Although I shouldn't be surprised. You are then person that wants to trade a franchise goalie + for an unproven prospect.

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10-28-2012, 03:47 PM
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Because that is clearly what I meant.

Although I shouldn't be surprised. You are then person that wants to trade a franchise goalie + for an unproven prospect.
It would not be the first time a goalie was traded for unproven player or pick. Many real GM actually trade proven NHL goalies for unproven player or pick.

Remember Toskala ? Raycroff ? Fernandez ? Halak ? Varlamov ? Vokoun ? Roloson ? Lethonen ? They was all NHL proven goalie traded for unproven player/pick.

Should we fire these GM ?

Of course these goalie wasn't really ''franchise'' goalie, but they was traded for a lot less than a potential unproven ''franchise'' player either.


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10-28-2012, 03:51 PM
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So oilers dont want schnieder or Bobby Lou with a contract so bad it makes Horcoff's look good. the big 4 are not on the table ever for Vancouver id Imagine and even if they were it would never be for a goalie. As others have said its not the 90s and the difference between elite goalies and good goalies isnt worth Eberle or Yakupov lol canuck fans.

Systems makes goalies. its the reason everyones favorite crazy russian goalie was good in Phoenix but terrible in Philly. Its why Mike Smith was almost out of the league until playing for Tippet. Its how Ken Hitchcock got Brian Elliot to be "elite". If vancouver had Edmonton's defence their goalies dont perfrom as well imo.

Over the next couple of seasons as Scultz, klefbom, Smid and Petry continue to develop and the defence is less run around like a chicken and more structured Dubnyk's stats will improve imo. And if they dont well he has a 1 year contract not a 10 year contract (Bobby Lou) and didnt cost Yakupov (Schneider).

I think after 3 years of crap most oilers fans will wait it out then take these "deals" proposed


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10-28-2012, 03:56 PM
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Whats with the tone. Oilers dont want him so why would they overpay. No need to first pump the goalies your team is trying so hard to trade
Vancouver fans are like Electrolux vacuum cleaner door to door sellers. Even if we dont invite them, they come and tell us how wonderful are their product (goalies) and try to convince us we need one, or try to convince us we need to replace our old one.

Good luck making the sales!

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Vancouver fans are like Electrolux vacuum cleaner door to door sellers. Even if we dont invite them, they come and tell us how wonderful are their product (goalies) and try to convince us we need one, or try to convince us we need to replace our old one.

Good luck making the sales!
Yeah, no. Its more like fans of other teams coming around and saying Luongo isn't worth komisarek or that Schneider is a career backup, then when we try to have a rational discussion we are categorically repudiated because HF hates everything that is Canuck.

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