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11-07-2012, 11:34 PM
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Too much is being made of slips like that on both sides. It's just fodder for political foes to jump on, and easy headlines, but often means nothing.

Now, there are people in media systematically and intentionally lying and manipulating listeners and viewers. That is a gazillion times worse than people from both sides misstating something that sounds crazy in an exhausted and sometimes emotional state.

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11-08-2012, 07:21 AM
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So it is a stupid thing to say no doubt. Obviously he was speaking to the storm's impact on the election and was merely putting words to what many already were thinking but still, some things you leave unsaid.

I like Chris when he goes toe to toe with some Fox news talking head because he has the chops to stand in for the fight and not just run away after the first punch to the nose. I don't like him because he tiptoes into crazy territory often pushing beyond facts and speculation just to create as much static as they generate. If he isn't careful he may end up with a Keith Olberman label on his T-shirts.

His apology on this one seems indeed sincere and not just lip service but only time will tell if he can get past another stupid statement that is much more personal than most.

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11-08-2012, 08:06 AM
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To be fair, he's always been an idiot. This wasn't surprising.
In the past, I've thought that his heart is usually in the right place, he's just a hyper-partisan loudmouth who's willing to twist facts to make his point. There are plenty of commentators on all sides of the political spectrum who make good money that way, and that's fine. He's better for entertainment value for bored liberal viewers than he is for serious political analysis.

But this comment is crossing the line more than usual. Making light of a natural disaster that killed a lot of people and made many others suffer horribly is never appropriate.

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His apology on this one seems indeed sincere and not just lip service but only time will tell if he can get past another stupid statement that is much more personal than most.
No way he's getting sacked, and I doubt his viewership will see any significant reduction. He'll get past it just fine. And like you said, he is sincere and actively taking steps to rectify his mistake now.

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11-08-2012, 10:08 AM
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Matthews is a mess. He has "white guilt" written all over him. And my lord, fix your damn hair. He had such a jubilant tone of voice when he made that remark. He's an ass.

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11-08-2012, 11:47 AM
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If Chris Mattews said that then he can go burn in hell.
He's simply a horrible human being, so he fits right in with several other of that networks "top" hosts:

Ed Schultz
Al Sharpton
Martin Bashir

And of course, predictable, relatively speaking the media outrage over his comments is extremely light.

EDIT : Good for Ken Daneyko, hadnt seen that.

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If he isn't careful he may end up with a Keith Olberman label on his T-shirts.
That ship has sailed. I'd say Matthews is now only viewed slightly better than Olberman by most reasonable people.

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11-08-2012, 11:54 AM
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I had my power back for 2 days then boop it goes out last night. I just need it for Tuesday though.

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Too much is being made of slips like that on both sides. It's just fodder for political foes to jump on, and easy headlines, but often means nothing.

Now, there are people in media systematically and intentionally lying and manipulating listeners and viewers. That is a gazillion times worse than people from both sides misstating something that sounds crazy in an exhausted and sometimes emotional state.
so much this. does anyone actually believe he's glad 60 people died so obama could win? of course not. get a grip, people

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11-08-2012, 01:13 PM
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so much this. does anyone actually believe he's glad 60 people died so obama could win? of course not. get a grip, people
were any of the 60 Fox News reporters?


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11-08-2012, 01:26 PM
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were any of the 60 Fox News reporters?

Or Republicans?

Or White people (especially males), other than himself?

Or anyone who is wealthy, other than himself?

This guy is such an asshat. I love how he rails on and on and on about "diversity" and "inclusion" and calling everyone racists etc.... while living in one of the statistically most white towns in all of America.

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CHRIS MATTHEWS: I go back to living in DC all these years. I’ve lived there 40 years, a black-majority city, and anybody who wants to get up early in Washington and drive down North Capitol (Street) and drive past Florida Avenue, sees nothing but youn-, but black people up at 6:30 in the morning going to work.
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Matthews actually lives in Chevy Chase, Maryland — an affluent suburb several miles from DC. According to census data at Maryland-Demographics.com, 1,953 people lived in Chevy Chase Village as of 2010. Of those nearly 2,000 residents, 10 were black. That’s right — ten. As in, one-half of one percent.


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For the longest time I thought Chevy Chase the town was named after the actor. Same with the bank too!

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So, BG, you're saying that someone who has money and believes in tolerance but doesn't live in the ghetto is a hypocrite?

Matthews lives there because that's where really rich people live. And it shouldn't be a shock that affluent suburbs are majority white, because really rich folks tend to be white. The hypocrisy would be if he talked about inclusion and then secretly wanted to keep his town whitewashed. I don't think he'd move if more black or brown people got rich and moved in.

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I think I've figured out BG's personal hell.

I think I'd get along great with Carville, he's a total badazz. Probably Richard Dreyfus too, smart guy. One guy in there I dont recognize. I live on the UWS, if you think I cant get along with (very) liberal people, you'd be mistaken. Only place more extreme-left would likely be San Francisco I imagine. Look at the sociopolitical research. Conservative people can often get along and not be bothered by liberals. It's the reverse that's typically the challenge.

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So, BG, you're saying that someone who has money and believes in tolerance but doesn't live in the ghetto is a hypocrite?

Matthews lives there because that's where really rich people live. And it shouldn't be a shock that affluent suburbs are majority white, because really rich folks tend to be white. The hypocrisy would be if he talked about inclusion and then secretly wanted to keep his town whitewashed. I don't think he'd move if more black or brown people got rich and moved in.
No, you missed the point. He SAID he lives in DC, a really black area. False, he lives in the most white area of that region. Not the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 12th, the most. And I dont know how much time you've spent in that area (it's actually really nice), but there are PLENTY of rich areas down there with great diversity. It's a diverse area.

But you're right in that it doesnt matter. However, keep in mind, this is a guy who will call you "racist" is you're a white person who says they like hockey, but just arent into the NBA. Do a google search of him and that subject. You would NOT believe the outlandishly ridiculous things he's called "racism" or people (nearly always Republicans) that he has called racist for things that have nothing to remotely do with race. He's like a McCarthiest of race. In fact, I think I just created a brilliant term, "Racial McCarthyism" - that's Chris Matthews.

EDIT: Did a GOOG search, people have used that term before. Oh well.


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You don't like George Carlin?

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All you have to do to describe Dick Morris is just drop the "Morris" part.

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^ Sad thing is that this clown gets PAID(and well) for his crappy opinions.

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^ Sad thing is that this clown gets PAID(and well) for his crappy opinions.
And so is Chris Matthews

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And so is Chris Matthews
That goes without saying......



Or maybe I should say :

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