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10-30-2012, 08:08 PM
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NHLPA to fight lockout in Quebec court

http://www.calgaryherald.com/sports/...511/story.html



MOD: Link to earlier thread on Canadian labor challenges:
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10-30-2012, 08:21 PM
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10-30-2012, 08:25 PM
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to think the players couldn't look any stupider.

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10-30-2012, 08:32 PM
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It still upsets me that the Alberta Labour Relations Board was too cowardly to get involved. Go Quebec!!

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I doubt that would affect the board's decision.
Just to touch on this from earlier. You would be surprised. If the PA wins, it virtually guarantees Quebec City isn't seeing a team for a long time, if ever.

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It still upsets me that the Alberta Labour Relations Board was too cowardly to get involved. Go Quebec!!
Why is it cowardly for the Province to essentially say, "stop wasting our time and deal with your own problems"?

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It still upsets me that the Alberta Labour Relations Board was too cowardly to get involved. Go Quebec!!
They did get involved-they were very outspoken.They told the PA they were wasting the courts time in going to the labour Board to solve a dispute with the NHL.

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Just to touch on this from earlier. You would be surprised. If the PA wins, it virtually guarantees Quebec City isn't seeing a team for a long time, if ever.



Why is it cowardly for the Province to essentially say, "stop wasting our time and deal with your own problems"?
MAKE HISTORY and save hockey. Heros aren't built by notions of wasted time.

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10-30-2012, 08:54 PM
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They did get involved-they were very outspoken.They told the PA they were wasting the courts time in going to the labour Board to solve a dispute with the NHL.

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Nah, they didn't. AB relations board is usually very helpful.

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They should be spending their time and money on negotiating a deal.

They are not interested in a deal at all. And they care even less about the fans, workers, cities, etc.

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It would seem that when Bettman published his last offer publicly, he was signalling that is what will be implemented when he declares an impasse. That seems the inevitable track we're on. So i guess getting all labour law ducks in a row is now a wise idea before deciding whether to decertify.

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[QUOTE=thinkwild;55410527]It would seem that when Bettman published his last offer publicly, he was signalling that is what will be implemented when he declares an impasse. That seems the inevitable track we're on. So i guess getting all labour law ducks in a row is now a wise idea before deciding whether to decertify.[/QUOTE
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This was initiated long before the NHL offer was made; there is nothing wise about it, its just another side show from Don Fehr..

The PA got their wrists slapped by the Alberta Board, interesting to see what happens in Quebec.

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What a waste of time oy vey

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Will the PA absurdity ever end?

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Suing the NHL in a regional court is so going to solve the issues of linkage and among many other things.

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MAKE HISTORY and save hockey. Heros aren't built by notions of wasted time.
This... makes absolutely no sense. Even if the PA were to win. All it would result in is Hab players receiving a paycheck and the NHL souring on the province of Quebec. There is literally nothing worthwhile to come from this.

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This... makes absolutely no sense. Even if the PA were to win. All it would result in is Hab players receiving a paycheck and the NHL souring on the province of Quebec. There is literally nothing worthwhile to come from this.
An owner has to pay players while other owners don't? That's puts a lot of pressure on Bettman from a pissed off owner. Shorter lock-out perhaps?

That displays incompetence from Daly because they never thought to certify the NHLPA in these provinces. Bettman gets fired?

The benefits seem good to me.

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I wonder how much money has been spent on doing this.

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An owner has to pay players while other owners don't? That's puts a lot of pressure on Bettman from a pissed off owner. Shorter lock-out perhaps?

That displays incompetence from Daly because they never thought to certify the NHLPA in these provinces. Bettman gets fired?

The benefits seem good to me.
And conversely the rest of the NHLPA is pissed of that a group of 23 are getting paid while the rest wait for Fehr to stop stalling on negotiating...that displays incompetence on behalf of the NHLPA.

Or even worse, if the outcome was positive for the NHLPA, the owners as a group would use this to further attempt to gain back more of the HRR to compensate for the ruling.

This is nothing more than a PR grandstand. The outcome either positive/negative will have little influence over the stances of either group.

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An owner has to pay players while other owners don't? That's puts a lot of pressure on Bettman from a pissed off owner. Shorter lock-out perhaps?

That displays incompetence from Daly because they never thought to certify the NHLPA in these provinces. Bettman gets fired?

The benefits seem good to me.
I hate to break the bad news to you but neither GB or BD has any thing to do with union certification. Plus what do have against Quebec City because the NHL certainly would have second thoughts about putting another team there.

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Nah, they didn't. AB relations board is usually very helpful.
I dont know about the AB labor relations board but if you say they are usually very helpful, doesnt there refusal to get involved tell you what they think of the situation.

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While on some level it's a distraction but since neither side is being particularly useful at the moment, I don't think it matters much.

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So, if it gets stopped in quebec, will it just be the canadiens playing themselves for the cup?

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The Alberta board already told them to man up and fight their own battle, hopefully Quebec does the same.

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So, if it gets stopped in quebec, will it just be the canadiens playing themselves for the cup?
Canadiens will separate from the league and form a new distinct league with Quebec City. Will have complete sovereignty, but association with NHL, sharing the NHL TV contract, etc. Basically the winner of the Quebec City/Montreal league will play the winner of the NHL for the Stanley Cup every year. The NHL will have to allow this. This is the most likely outcome.. if you're insane

More like If NHLPA wins, Quebec City never gets a franchise again.

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Hopefully the Quebec board gives the NHLPA the same message they got in Alberta. We got real work to do so stop trying to make us pawns in your dispute.

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