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Around late July/Early August I was in 3 GM leagues. In every league i noticed the same thing. Everyone trades away nearly half their team. I was completely guilty of this as well. Oddly enough, i seemed to be the only one who thinks picks and prospects have little value in this game mode when you consider we'll only most likely be playing 4-6 seasons for NHL 13 and even Elite Prospects start out in the 60's.

I became weary that in about a month when the winners and the losers start to become more separated that people wouldn't want to stick with a losing team and they'll end up quitting. This isn't including the people who chose the Blue Jackets, Islanders, Coyotes etc...teams that you have to know a rebuild is necessary before you pick them. These people will probably stay regardless. But the guys who chose the average/good teams who trade away large chunks of their roster and either...

a) aren't very good at the game and get frustrated

b) simply get bored with the game mode and stop playing/quit


...well these guy's teams will have to be replaced. Are people really going to want to join a Connected league in December when they chose a team and the roster isn't even recognizable? When all the players they associate a team with are gone? When a team has gone from a Playoff Contender to a team in Rebuild? Everyone might as well be doing random rosters if thats the case. I've also seen A LOT of really bad/lopsided trades (again, guilty myself) that while seemingly fine to the GM's currently involved, might not be ok and might even be terrible for the next GM to pick up the team.

When i created this league almost 2 months ago, i had all of these things in mind. Now, 2 months removed from then, i've seen a lot, if not most of these HF Boards GM Leagues either terribly inactive or completely shut down. I wanted to make a league that was immune to these processes. That offered a realistic experience for everyone. That kept things fresh for all 30 GMs involved through offering challenges and consistency day in and day out.

Drop outs are inevitable. These leagues probably wont be as fun for the people who are in the bottom 10 and realize they'll be stuck there 30 games into the season. My goal with limiting trades is that so when people do drop out (which will happen) the new people who join will still have a team they are semi-familiar with instead of a fantasy roster with NHL jerseys. If people dont drop out and decide to stick it out, they'll be rewarded with higher draft picks (obviously) but they'll also be rewarded with time to see their high draft picks become useful NHL players due to the amount of games i'll be simming. This means that there is usually a constant influx/outflux of GMs to this league. Which in turn means that anyone on my reserve list is nearly guranteed a team in a very short period of time. I only want the most active GMs in my league of course so i'm constantly weeding out inactive GMs.

If you're an aspiring member to The Bluth Company, this is my league. Welcome to it. Below are the rules that separate The Bluth Company from the rest...
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RULES:
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-Game Schedule: 2 weeks=3 real days schedule, games will be played for 4 weeks, 6 real days, and then i will sim the 3rd 2 week, 3 real day period. This means that roughly 1/3rd of our season will be involuntarily simmed. This will be done so we can fit in a few more seasons and hopefully play about 7-9 seasons instead of 4-6. It has become a great blend of being both a talented player, and intelligent GM. With this extra seasons that are now allowed, growing your prospects for the future is now equally as important as utilizing your current players to their full potential.

Playing Your Opponent's CPU: In the Bluth Company we have a 3 day sim period that covers 2 weeks of NHL Games. GMs have 2 days to schedule their games. On the 3rd day, ONLY if you have made a honest effort to schedule a game with your opponent, either through HF Boards messaging or Xbox, can you then play your opponent's computer.


Messaging your opponents: Message your opponents! Its an almost statistical certainty that if you message all of your opponents you will get all or most of your games in that block and it is a Requirment for League Participation

2) When you message your opponents, all you need to do is the following...

-Go to the 1st page of either this thread or the Trade/Lineup thread
-Click the HF Username of your opponent, its a hyperlink to their PM Box
-Send them a message that looks like this...

Quote:
Hey man i have you on my schedule this period. I'm available (Central Time)..
Today: 2:30-11pm
Wednesday: 9pm-11pm
Thursday: 11am-2pm, 8pm-11pm

Let me know which time works best for you


This is a league requirement. GMs not doing this will be subjected to other, active, GMs playing their team's CPU and/or be removed from the league due to inactivity. This is a League Rule because i automatically sim 1/3rd of the season already. That is the amount of games i've decided is the appropriate blend of actual skill at the game vs skill of managing your team. When you dont play your games, and force me to sim them, you're adding to the amount of simmed games per season, which disrupts the "Balance" of Play Skill vs GM skill.

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DNF vs CPU: From now on, your DNF vs CPU is never allowed to be higher than 0%. If this happens, you'll be given 1 warning. After that warning, i'll kick you from the league again, resetting your DNF vs CPU back to 0%. If it goes above 0% again, you lose the privilege to play CPU games for the rest of the season. If your DNF vs CPU goes above 0% at any point after that, you'll lose the ability to play CPU games for as long as your in The Bluth Company.
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TRADE RULES:

-No trade can involve more than 4 Roster Players (combined from both teams)
-No trade can involve more than 6 total pieces (combined from both teams)


-GMs are allowed Two Trades Per Season. The specific Injury, Offseason, Regular Season, and Deadline moves have all been removed. Yes, even the Injury Trade. These two trades can be used at any time from Day 1 of the Offseason until the Trade Deadline.

This is the rule that both directly and indirectly separates this league from the rest. Trades are supposed to be a big deal. A trade is the literal removal of assets from your team in place of other assets in order to make the team better. Its not something that real GMs take lightly. The success of their team and their jobs depend on how well their decisions pan out. One of the major reasons so many other leagues unfortunately dont work out is because people get so excited about making trades that they forget their team needs, how close their team is to a cup, how these deals will impact their present and future. This isn't the case in The Bluth Company because of the above mentioned rules. GMs will have had two seasons to shape their team, to manage their cap, and plan for a Cup run or Rebuild.


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Tanking: Any GM caught "Tanking" or trying to lose games on purpose, will be removed from the league, no questions asked.
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Additional Bluth Company Rules: Effective Immediately

1) PLAYSTYLE: What is and Whats Not Allowed

Anything and everything is allowed in the Bluth Company. Shortside dekes, backhand-forehands on the breakaway, rebound goals, tying people up on faceoffs, wrist shots from the slot, etc...Its ALL 100% OK with me as Commissioner of The Bluth Company.

What is NOT ok with me is Excessive Use of anything mentioned above or anything not mentioned above. This league is about having fun. There aren't leaderboards, no Cash Prizes, no special recognition. Hell, even when you win the Stanley Cup the only thing you get are moderate bragging rights between 29 other people and one special post from the Commish congratulating you. This league is about having fun and doing any one sort of tactic over and over and over again takes away the fun from your opponent. If you're confused about this, just keep the word "Diversity" in your mind. Mix your playstyle up. Nobody should be scoring all of their goals from doing the same thing over and over again. Nobody should be attempting to be doing the same thing over and over again (even if it doesn't result in a goal). If you've scored two breakaway goals doing the same move, try something else next time you get on a breakaway. If you've scored a few goals from wristers in the slot already, mix it up and work in some one-timers and rebounds. DIVERSITY people!

I want GMs to enjoy playing their games. This league should be about having fun, not putting up as many goals as you can. NHL 13 has a lot of flaws so lets not make those flaws worse than they already are by playing like some top 100 VS player schmuck. Mix things up, try something new, have fun! Its a videogame afterall.


Backup Goalie Rule:

Effective immediately, All teams are required to start their backup goalie atleast 10 Games in the regular season. EA didn't take goalie fatigue into the equation and as it is now, its extremely easy to have your goalie start 82 games without consequence. Goalies can be put in during double advances or be used in actual games.

Failure to do this will cost a GM a 2nd round pick in the next draft.

Franchise Player Rule:

In my first two seasons of Bluth i was eager to have an active and fun league. My eagerness made me be a little too flexible with who was traded. There were over 20 big name players traded in two seasons. This is NOT realistic. In the NHL, GMs try and build a core of players that can win them games and championships. They dont just swap out star players every year and hope that it works. This is what i want the Franchise Player Rule to accomplish. It will force GMs to establish a core of players and use them for many seasons.

-Each team will have 3 Franchise Players and 1 Franchise Prospect
(if you feel you truly dont have 3 players and 1 prospect worthy of the tag then speak to me)

-No player/prospect on this list can be traded for 3 seasons
(any ammendments to a GM's list must be approved by myself)

*The ONLY Exceptions...

1) If a Franchise player is 37 years or older.
2) If a Franchise player is a pending UFA, not an RFA however


Flipping Players:

Any player acquired via trade can not be traded for 3 seasons AFTER they are acquired.

(Only exception to this rule is if they are a pending UFA, not RFA)

This rule, like the Franchise player rule, is meant to give teams an identity. Its also meant to force GMs to make smarter trades. No GM flips players from year to year. This rule is meant to simulate that.

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The Bluth Company (360) GM League Discussion/Signup PT 1
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The Bluth Company (360) GM League Discussion/Signup Pt 6
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Universal Trade/Lineup Thread PT 1
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BLUTH COMPANY 2012-13 SEASON AWARDS

Stanley Cup:
President's Trophy:
Clarence S. Compbell:
Prince of Wales:TBD

Art Ross: Alexander Ovechkin
Hart Memorial: Alexander Ovechkin
Norris: Erik Johnson
Lady Byng: Matt Duchene
Calder: Brandon Saad
Conne Smythe: Marcus Johansson

Vezina: Ryan freaking Miller
Jennings: Kari Lehtonen

Masterton: Erik Karlsson
Selke: Jonathan Toews
Ted Lindsay: Alexander Ovechkin
Maurice Richard: Alexander Ovechkin

BLUTH COMPANY 2013-14 SEASON AWARDS

Stanley Cup:
President's Trophy:
Clarence S. Compbell:
Prince of Wales:

Art Ross: Alexander Ovechkin
Hart Memorial: Alexander Ovechkin
Norris: Kyle Quincy
Lady Byng: Alexander Ovechkin
Calder: Jacob Markstrom
Conne Smythe: Jordan Staal
Vezina: Jacob Markstrom
Jennings: Jacob Markstrom

Masterton: Trevor Daley
Selke: Jonathan Toews
Ted Lindsay: Alexander Ovechkin
Maurice Richard: Alexander Ovechkin

BLUTH COMPANY 2014-15 SEASON AWARDS

Stanley Cup:
President's Trophy:
Clarence S. Compbell:
Prince of Wales:

Art Ross: Alexander Ovechkin
Hart Memorial: Alexander Ovechkin
Norris: Jamie McBain
Lady Byng: Steven Stamkos
Calder: Jonathan Huberdeau
Conne Smythe: Evander Kane
Vezina: Tomas Vokoun
Jennings: Henrik Lundqvist

Masterton: Robyn Regehr
Selke: Jonathan Toews
Ted Lindsay: Alexander Ovechkin
Maurice Richard: Alexander Ovechkin

BLUTH COMPANY 2014-15 FINAL SEASON STANDINGS

1. Washington Capitals
2. Chicago Blackhawks
3. New York Rangers
4. St. Louis Blues
5. Tampa Bay Lightning
6. Ottawa Senators
7. Calgary Flames
8. Colorado Avalanche
9. Vancouver Canucks
10. Carolina Hurricanes
11. Phoenix Coyotes
12. Minnesota Wild
13. Florida Panthers
14. Detroit Red Wings
15. Philadelphia Flyers
16. New York Islanders
17. Montreal Canadiens
18. Dallas Stars
19. Buffalo Sabres
20. New Jersey Devils
21. Anaheim Ducks
22. Nashville Predators
23. Los Angeles Kings
24. Columbus Blue Jackets
25. Edmonton Oilers
26. San Jose Sharks
27. Boston Bruins
28. Pittsburgh Penguins
29. Toronto Maple Leafs
30. Winnipeg Jets

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Dont post in this thread until PT 7 gets to 1000 posts please

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ill do the honor of getting this ***** goin

i wish teams records were archived so we could do an ultimate standings of bluth....


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reposting from old thread

0-1-1 in my first 2 games.

2-1 L against NYR
3-2 SOL against BUF

(Grabner has all 3 of my goals so far.. haha)

Both games were a heart breaker
NYR game was a defensive battle all game.. and with a simple high wrist shot he scores to make it 2-1 near the end of the 3rd

BUF game was intense shots were 35-27 and still ended regulation at 2-2. It was a well fought battle, started my rookie backup for the game, he played pretty well stopping 25 of 27.. he's pretty bad in the shootout though (as am i controlling him)

Common trend with my team though immediately after scoring a goal.. I give up one.. happened on all 3 goals..

I think I am getting better at the game though.. playing a lot of online versus helps a lot.. I just wish I could practice with THIS team..

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ill do the honor of getting this ***** goin

i wish teams records were archived so we could do an ultimate standings of bluth....
I'm sure we can. I still have the playoff threads, which tell us half the league

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I'm sure we can. I still have the playoff threads, which tell us half the league
I don't think we ever posted records. Only thing I could think of I each team go into their goalies stats and look at their wins and losses..... And that's only for teams who have had one goalie this while time... (Buf)

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ill do the honor of getting this ***** goin

i wish teams records were archived so we could do an ultimate standings of bluth....
2013/14 Final Team Standings

1. Carolina Hurricanes
2. Detroit Red Wings
3. Florida Panthers
4. Chicago Blackhawks
5. Dallas Stars
6. Buffalo Sabres
7. Minnesota Wild
8. Washington Capitals
9. Edmonton Oilers
10. New York Islanders
11. St. Louis Blues
12. Tampa Bay Lightning
13. Colorado Avalanche
14. Winnipeg Jets
15. Vancouver Canucks
16. Ottawa Senators
17. New Jersey Devils
18. Philadelphia Flyers
19. Nashville Predators
20. Montreal Canadiens
21. Calgary Flames
22. New York Rangers
23. Phoenix Coyotes
24. Anaheim Ducks
25. Los Angeles Kings
26. San Jose Sharks
27. Columbus Blue Jackets
28. Boston Bruins
29. Pittsburgh Penguins
30. Toronto Maple Leafs

2012-13 Final Team Standings

1. Winnipeg Jets
2. Detroit Red Wings
3. Buffalo Sabres
4. Dallas Stars
5. Edmonton Oilers
6. Colorado Avalanche
7. New Jersey Devils
8. Vancouver Canucks
9. New York Rangers
10. Carolina Hurricanes
11. Washington Capitals
12. Chicago Blackhawks
13. Los Angeles Kings
14. Montreal Canadiens
15. Phoenix Coyotes
16. Pittsburgh Penguins
17.
18.
19.
20.
21.
22.
23.
24. New York Islanders
25.
26.
27.
28. Calgary Flames
29. Tampa Bay Lightning
30. Columbus Blue Jackets

Need some help filling in the rest. Anyone's input is appreciated. This isn't 100% accurate because i cant look at points but i based it off of playoff results the best i could.


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Dug this up, this is what the draft order after the 2013-14 season was projected to be.

1. Toronto
2. Pittsburgh
3. Boston
4. Columbus
5. San Jose
6. Los Angeles
7. Anaheim
8. Phoenix
9. NY Rangers
10. Calgary
11. Montreal
12. Nashville
13. Boston (from Philadelphia)
14. New Jersey
15. Vancouver
16. Ottawa
17. Pittsburgh (from Winnipeg)
18. Tampa Bay
19. Colorado
20. NY Islanders
21. Boston (from St. Louis)
22. Edmonton
23. Vancouver (from Washington)
24. San Jose (from Minnesota)
25. Buffalo
26. Dallas
27. Philadelphia (from Chicago)*
28. NY Islanders (from Carolina)*
29. Florida*
30. Detroit*

This will mainly help with 1-14 since 15-30 were based off of when a team was knocked out of the playoffs.

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2013/14 Final Team Standings

1. Carolina Hurricanes
2. Detroit Red Wings
3. Florida Panthers
4. Chicago Blackhawks
5. Dallas Stars
6. Buffalo Sabres
7. Minnesota Wild
8. Washington Capitals
9. Edmonton Oilers
10. New York Islanders
11. St. Louis Blues
12. Tampa Bay Lightning
13. Colorado Avalanche
14. Winnipeg Jets
15. Vancouver Canucks
16. Ottawa Senators
17.
18.
19.
20.
21.
22.
23.
24.
25.
26.
27.
28.
29.
30.

2012-13 Final Team Standings

1. Winnipeg Jets
2. Detroit Red Wings
3. Buffalo Sabres
4. Dallas Stars
5. Edmonton Oilers
6. Colorado Avalanche
7. New Jersey Devils
8. Vancouver Canucks
9. New York Rangers
10. Carolina Hurricanes
11. Washington Capitals
12. Chicago Blackhawks
13. Los Angeles Kings
14. Montreal Canadiens
15. Phoenix Coyotes
16. Pittsburgh Penguins
17.
18.
19.
20.
21.
22.
23.
24. New York Islanders
25.
26.
27.
28. Calgary Flames
29. Tampa Bay Lightning
30. Columbus Blue Jackets

Need some help filling in the rest. Anyone's input is appreciated. This isn't 100% accurate because i cant look at points but i based it off of playoff results the best i could.
had 10th overall pick after 2013/2014 season.

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in 2013-2014 I came in 2nd last.

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Thank you Dbridge! Very helpful. Any chance you can pull up a 2012/13 version too? By the way where did you find that?

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Thank you Dbridge! Very helpful. Any chance you can pull up a 2012/13 version too? By the way where did you find that?
I just made that when I was bored waiting for the playoffs to end in 2014 and I posted it to the trade block thread back then. I don't have one for 2012-13 though since I wasn't in the league yet, that's the only I had.

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What I meant was records lol. Like sabres ...-..-.. All time.

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Just had the biggest BS game against FLA. I won it to, but I had no business winning it. The game looped about 6 times, and I scored one of my goals when FLA should have been on the pp. Every time I got a good chance in OT the game looped, it was such a terrible game. I hope this never happens to anyone else.

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despite the BS win against FLA, it isn't to bad of a start, 2-3. I really don't want to finish bottom 3 again, and I don't think I will either. Hey Sensi how is it down at the bottom of the standings?

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Oh ****. Sensei getting chirped by dem pens.

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start 3-0 and are out to prove that finishing 1st in the West last season wasn't a fluke.

Ready for the advance once St. Louis plays my CPU.

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get at me.


I am now
Just got home, going on shortly... Idk if you are still on though

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Just got home, going on shortly... Idk if you are still on though
I'm on!

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