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Ryan Nugent-Hopkins Named Captain for Team Canada (WJC)

View Poll Results: Should the Oilers allow RNH to play in the WJHCs this year?
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11-01-2012, 04:04 PM
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Ryan Nugent-Hopkins Named Captain for Team Canada (WJC)

Pretty simple question.

Should the Oilers allow him to leave the Barons mid-season and play for Team Canada this year? Why or why not?

I was thinking of including a third option of "Leave the decision up to him" but I decided that one is more or less Yes since the Oilers aren't going to force him to go if he doesn't want to.

This is of course provided the NHL is still locked out.

(I accidentally posted this in the prospects board first.)


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If there's no NHL hockey, absolutely yes.

He'll be a leader on the team, playing meaningful games, gets on Hockey Canada's radar. I see No downside to him playing in the WJHC.

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I say yes. He has never been there before and would give him some great leadership experience going forward.

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If there is no NHL then of course.

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I think he's beyond that level now. He's in his second year of pro hockey and he's played for Team Canada at the worlds already.

Would he dominate? Absolutely. Would that prove anything we don't already know? No.

IMO, he'd be better served playing against grown men from now on.

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11-01-2012, 04:20 PM
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I think he's beyond that level now. He's in his second year of pro hockey and he's played for Team Canada at the worlds already.

Would he dominate? Absolutely. Would that prove anything we don't already know? No.

IMO, he'd be better served playing against grown men from now on.
He doesn't have to prove anything, it would be good experience and can provide leadership. Building on his leadership skills is the main benefit.

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11-01-2012, 04:50 PM
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I could careless either way. If he is there I'll cheer for Canada, if he isn't I'll cheer for Canada.

Think it also has more than what the Oilers think, what does he think? Everyone assumes he wants to play in the WJC, but does he?

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11-01-2012, 04:53 PM
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YES!

Give him a shot at that elusive 'Quadruple Crown'.

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He doesn't have to prove anything, it would be good experience and can provide leadership. Building on his leadership skills is the main benefit.
That, and playing in a high pressure environment.

Canada will inevitably be in a do or die situation at some point, and Nuge being the best player on the team in that type of environment will be very good for him.

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For what it's worth, I tweeted Dan Tencer about this the other day, and he said if there's no NHL RNH will be going. "He's a lock" he said.

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I think he's beyond that level now. He's in his second year of pro hockey and he's played for Team Canada at the worlds already.

Would he dominate? Absolutely. Would that prove anything we don't already know? No.

IMO, he'd be better served playing against grown men from now on.
Is it about proving something? No. It's about helping Canada win gold.

His development will not be affected in any way.

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If he wants to go, let him go. That said facing the checking that he is at the AHL level is much better for him in the long run IMO.

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Let him play and get a gold medal for himself.

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If he wants to go, let him go. That said facing the checking that he is at the AHL level is much better for him in the long run IMO.
I agree that the checking in the AHL is better but the pressure and the intensity at the WJC's is 1,000 times higher and for that reason I think he'll be better off going there.

The only silver lining in these lockout seasons is that we get to see what the wjc tourney looks like when the top 5 canadians are available. Without RNH there we don't get to see that.

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I say absolutely. He is the first, 1st overall pick to have never played in a world junior tournament since (I started doing research, went as far back as Hamrlik and still haven't found any other 1st overall to never play in the tourny. lol)

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If he wants to go, let him go. That said facing the checking that he is at the AHL level is much better for him in the long run IMO.
The few games he will miss will be completely and utterly irrelevant in the "long run".

His "development" should not factor at all into the decision because it will not be affected by the decision.

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Yes for sure why not
It would make for a good wjc this is a one sided poll

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How much AHL action would he even miss?

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If he wants to go, let him go. That said facing the checking that he is at the AHL level is much better for him in the long run IMO.
Two weeks worth of non AHL games will do absolutely nothing to him in the long run.

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Of course they should.

The only way he shouldnt go is if the nhl is playing again or he doesnt want to go.

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Yes for sure why not
It would make for a good wjc this is a one sided poll
Ya, I really didn't expect this to become as one sided as this has turned out to be.

Based on other discussions I thought there was a fair amount of people who felt that he should stick with the Barons the whole year and that dropping back down to junior would do nothing for his development but that doesn't seem to be the case.

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i actually voted no, but in fact i didn't mean no. they should absolutely let him if he wants to, but somehow i feel that he won't be too enthusiastic about it. let's say, they should let him, but i'd prefer him to reject and stay at the Barons with the boys. on the other hand, i consider going to Ufa to see some games, and it'd be great to get a glimpse of his talent... well, i'm confused.

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i actually voted no, but in fact i didn't mean no. they should absolutely let him if he wants to, but somehow i feel that he won't be too enthusiastic about it. let's say, they should let him, but i'd prefer him to reject and stay at the Barons with the boys. on the other hand, i consider going to Ufa to see some games, and it'd be great to get a glimpse of his talent... well, i'm confused.
I agree with you. Maybe a better way for me to have phrased the question would have been, "Should Ryan Nugent-Hopkins participate in the WJHCs this year?"

In hindsight, the question I asked in OP kind of answers itself since the Oilers would likely leave the decision completely up to RNH.

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I think it would be a good experience for him. It would be lower competition than what he is currently facing but much higher pressure.

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