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11-04-2012, 11:08 PM
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I think that the O-Line deserves a lot of the credit for Redman and Dwyer's performances. This O-Line is playing better than any we've had in the last few years. Haley deserves some of the credit for that too. Blocking for Roethlisberger on a 5 or 7 step drop has got to be exhausting. Probably a mental drain too.
I wasn't much of a football player myself but I played just enough defensive end to know what a letdown it can be when the ball is released quickly every play and that's another thing in favor of the short drop passing game. When you're facing a quarterback who sits and waits in the pocket it gives you energy. You know you're going to have a chance for a sack every down if you can just fight through.

I wasn't very excited about the Steelers after the first few weeks. I saw our stars playing ineffectively or not at all and I saw significant problems on the O-Line, the D-Line and at CB. Since then Big Snack has picked it up, Harrison and Woodley are getting healthy and starting to get into the game, Keenan Lewis is starting to play pretty well and the line and particularly Adams have impressed me.

I say that we ought to be able to take the division in the wake of the injuries that Baltimore has suffered and if we can add a healthy Polamalu to the defense at any point - particularly if Lewis has proven himself enough in coverage to allow Polamalu to play up every now and then - then we've got as good a shot as anyone in the AFC.

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Good call about the o-line. We want to give credit to Dwyer and Redman, even though they are playing great, our oline is opening up holes.

Still a bit too many sacks today. Thought Ben was a bit flustered. He had more time, but he was still rushing. Coverage down field was very good and losing Brown hurt us.

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Yeah, money is the biggest concern and the initial motivator to us coming to the conclusion that we simply just cant afford to live in the Northeast anymore. Theres a very bad combination of little to no jobs and rising expenses. Just comparing to places I looked in Idaho we could get a cheaper but much bigger house and go from spending 6600 a year in property taxes to 1400. You add up that difference over a 30 year mortgage and you've saved some serious money. Not to mention all of the other reductions in expenses. Cheaper utilities, no car tax, cheaper gas, cheaper food, you name it.

The big thing though is it's so damn expensive to move. Just getting a PODS or two will be about 4 grand. We would be renting out our house because like most people in this area we're currently underwater on our mortgage. So that means we gotta spend some to get this place in rental condition, that means repairing a central air unit that I tolerated it's issues but a tenant wont, thats a few thousand alone. It's going to suck but we need to bite the bullet and will be much better off in the long run for doing it.

I've mainly used sights like trulia and message boards like city-data to get a feel on the areas. Seems like the more cost effective areas of Pittsburgh are the towns to the northwest of the city like Beaver. Are those places dumps? Seems like the taxes drop sharply when you get out of Allegheny (spelling?). My ideal situation would be to have about an acre of land, a 3brm or greater house and about a 20-30 min drive to a place like PNC park. I am looking around anywhere from 150-250k. For me to get a place like that in CT around my area it would cost about 450k and have about a 8-10k yearly property tax to go with it.
In Pittsburgh, you can get a pretty sizable house (enough to raise a family of 4), in a nice neighborhood in the mid-100,000's. I know my friend who just moved from a 1 bedroom townhouse in Stamford, CT, just bought a 3,500 sq ft house with the money he got from selling the thing.

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With the game being on MNF next week, that'll be 8 out of the 9 games I've been able to watch on TV. From the looks of it, with the schedule going forward I'll be able to watch all the games this season on TV minus 3. Best it's been in a long, long time.
Well selfishly, I don't care if anyone outside of Pittsburgh can see the game, as I hate games that aren't at 1 o'clock.

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And I really think this line is going to be shaping up sooner rather than later. I still think we could probably use another tackle, as everyone knows how I feel about Gilbert. I'd like to see us take a mean LT in this next draft...I have my eye on Pugh from Syracuse. He's a Steeler through and through.

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Just wanted to throw my 2 cents in about northwest areas of Pittsburgh. I grew up in Beaver, have lived in many different areas of Pittsburgh and even in Charlotte NC for a few years. Beaver is a fantastic town with a thriving Main Street that is pleasant to walk through. I don't recall there being any boarded up businesses and it reminds me of some of the newer towns down south that are new, clean and very safe. Beaver is one of the best "towns" I've been to, and I've traveled all over the country. Brighton Twp and Beaver make up the Beaver School district. Beaver is mostly a small town setting and Brighton Twp is more of a country feel to it. I live in Brighton Twp now and I love it. It's a great school district with plenty of community activities for all ages. If you have more questions about the area let me know. I would be glad to help.
I will echo this as well. My mom lives in Beaver just up the hill by the hospital. It's an awesome town. Beaver county in general is a cool place to grow up with all of the small towns along the river. That said, some of the towns are strong economically (Beaver, Brighton Twp, Bridgewater) and some have their struggles (steer clear of Aliquippa and Ambridge school districts), and Rochester is okay. In general, it was a good place to grow up and it's about 30-35 min drive to the city.

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And I really think this line is going to be shaping up sooner rather than later. I still think we could probably use another tackle, as everyone knows how I feel about Gilbert. I'd like to see us take a mean LT in this next draft...I have my eye on Pugh from Syracuse. He's a Steeler through and through.
I really doubt Colbert will draft a tackle in early rounds. Most likely will be linebacker, safety, corner for at least early rounds.

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And I really think this line is going to be shaping up sooner rather than later. I still think we could probably use another tackle, as everyone knows how I feel about Gilbert. I'd like to see us take a mean LT in this next draft...I have my eye on Pugh from Syracuse. He's a Steeler through and through.
How I would like to see the draft go, based on if he we make the playoffs. Somewhere in the 22-28 range.

1. Eric Reid (FS, LSU)
2. Shayne Skov (ILB, Stanford)
3. John Simon (DE, Ohio State)
4. Justin Pugh (OT, Syracuse)
5. Travis Howard (CB, Ohio State)
6. ?
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In Pittsburgh, you can get a pretty sizable house (enough to raise a family of 4), in a nice neighborhood in the mid-100,000's. I know my friend who just moved from a 1 bedroom townhouse in Stamford, CT, just bought a 3,500 sq ft house with the money he got from selling the thing.


Stamford is a bit pricier than my area but I see your point. My main problem is that we owe more money than our home is worth. We bought back in 2008 when housing values were already really low and it seemed like a great time to buy, didnt expect them to plummet even more. For the last 4 years between having to pay off mostly interest on the mortgage and having our house drop 60k or so in value there is a 20k or so deficit so we're going to have to rent till we can at least break even and we won't get to enjoy a profit that we could then use towards another house.

The biggest issue in my state is the political climate, that is what I want to flee most. It's just a mentality of when they screw up and blow all their money they then come looking for additional ways to take more from us. We were told in the early 90's that the income tax here would be the be all end all for taxing and that it was going to lessen the burden and all that good stuff, well obviously that wasnt the case and the instituted more and more taxes and hiked up the rates of the income tax as well. Having amongst the highest gas tax, a car tax paid each year to the town, property tax rates that will make most any american squeamish, utility taxes which make utility rates amongst the highest in the nation.. you name it. Not to mention they got the Mohegan Sun and Foxwoods Casinos cranking out hundreds of million dollars to the state as part of an arrangement in sharing slot revenues. This last summer they upped the sales tax more, made it now apply to services as well as clothes (it used to not) and of course my town upped it's mill rate as well. You can see it's almost like a tidal wave of increased expenses while the job climate has been absolutely abysmal. Right now almost any state looks like greener grass but I worry about how things are done in PA. What is the trend there, have they upped taxes on people in the area lately? I know nationwide everyone is getting hit with increased costs but some states are doubling down on things while others are making some wiser decisions.

It's just a major source of frustration at the moment and I don't want to go to another area only for them to basically engage in the same thing a few years later.

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11-05-2012, 05:26 PM
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I really doubt Colbert will draft a tackle in early rounds. Most likely will be linebacker, safety, corner for at least early rounds.
Gotta go where the value is. I think where we will probably be picking, tackle may be a good value there. The ILB class is weird, in I think there will be pockets of ILB's. If any team is looking for a DE, this is the draft. The top 2 rounds are going to be chalked full.

I have a handful of corners/safeties that I like, and I think all will be available in rounds 2-3. In all honesty, from the publications I'm reading, unless a guy drops like DeCastro did, I'd like to back up. I think there will be immense value in the 2-4 rounds because a lot of teams will be trying to find that "it" pass rusher.

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How I would like to see the draft go, based on if he we make the playoffs. Somewhere in the 22-28 range.

1. Eric Reid (FS, LSU)
2. Shayne Skov (ILB, Stanford)
3. John Simon (DE, Ohio State)
4. Justin Pugh (OT, Syracuse)
5. Travis Howard (CB, Ohio State)
6. ?
7. ?
I have a short list of guys that'd I'd really like to see, but I'll probably hold off giving my list of guys until the season is more than half over.

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Stamford is a bit pricier than my area but I see your point. My main problem is that we owe more money than our home is worth. We bought back in 2008 when housing values were already really low and it seemed like a great time to buy, didnt expect them to plummet even more. For the last 4 years between having to pay off mostly interest on the mortgage and having our house drop 60k or so in value there is a 20k or so deficit so we're going to have to rent till we can at least break even and we won't get to enjoy a profit that we could then use towards another house.

The biggest issue in my state is the political climate, that is what I want to flee most. It's just a mentality of when they screw up and blow all their money they then come looking for additional ways to take more from us. We were told in the early 90's that the income tax here would be the be all end all for taxing and that it was going to lessen the burden and all that good stuff, well obviously that wasnt the case and the instituted more and more taxes and hiked up the rates of the income tax as well. Having amongst the highest gas tax, a car tax paid each year to the town, property tax rates that will make most any american squeamish, utility taxes which make utility rates amongst the highest in the nation.. you name it. Not to mention they got the Mohegan Sun and Foxwoods Casinos cranking out hundreds of million dollars to the state as part of an arrangement in sharing slot revenues. This last summer they upped the sales tax more, made it now apply to services as well as clothes (it used to not) and of course my town upped it's mill rate as well. You can see it's almost like a tidal wave of increased expenses while the job climate has been absolutely abysmal. Right now almost any state looks like greener grass but I worry about how things are done in PA. What is the trend there, have they upped taxes on people in the area lately? I know nationwide everyone is getting hit with increased costs but some states are doubling down on things while others are making some wiser decisions.

It's just a major source of frustration at the moment and I don't want to go to another area only for them to basically engage in the same thing a few years later.
If you move outside of Allegheny County (where PGH is located), taxes are a great deal cheaper. I probably wouldn't live in Allegheny county if I had the choice, but the great thing is that you can live in a different county, but still be within downtown in 20 mins.

Pittsburgh is a Democratic city, so you're going to have that political landscape which usually brings the taxes with it.

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11-05-2012, 06:13 PM
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I think the O line is making Redman and Dwyer seem better than they really are. Those holes were not there before they played the Bengals and all of last season.

I think Ryan Clark is the defensive MVP thus far.

OLB to replace Harrison is the biggest draft need. Harrison is almost useless these days and Worilds hasn't done anything in his career.

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I'd like to see more from Worilds. He really hasn't been given much opportunity, but t he opportunity he has been given, I think he has performed well.

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Gotta go where the value is. I think where we will probably be picking, tackle may be a good value there. The ILB class is weird, in I think there will be pockets of ILB's. If any team is looking for a DE, this is the draft. The top 2 rounds are going to be chalked full.

I have a handful of corners/safeties that I like, and I think all will be available in rounds 2-3. In all honesty, from the publications I'm reading, unless a guy drops like DeCastro did, I'd like to back up. I think there will be immense value in the 2-4 rounds because a lot of teams will be trying to find that "it" pass rusher.



I have a short list of guys that'd I'd really like to see, but I'll probably hold off giving my list of guys until the season is more than half over.
According to CBSsports, there are 13 DE's in their top 100.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/p...nkings/2013/DE

My list changes every now then, except one. That's pretty obvious who it is.

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McShay has 15 DL in his top 32

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McShay has 15 DL in his top 32
Wish I could see it...

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And with all of my talk about taking Jake Matthews in the 3rd to 4th round, he just popped up on Mel Kiper's top 25. I knew it'd be too good to be true.

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I think the O line is making Redman and Dwyer seem better than they really are. Those holes were not there before they played the Bengals and all of last season.

I think Ryan Clark is the defensive MVP thus far.

OLB to replace Harrison is the biggest draft need. Harrison is almost useless these days and Worilds hasn't done anything in his career.
Agree that OLB is the top need right now, our pass rush is anemic this season. He's not a pure pass rusher but I love Dion Jordan from Oregon. Kid is an athletic freak. He came into college as a WR and is now a 6'7" 240 lb OLB with a great motor and can cover WR's. I think Lebeau could use him like Polamaly with his versatility.

Also don't forget that Wallace and Mendenhall might be done after this season so we will need to add at RB and WR for depth at the least.

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Looked like Adrian Robinson was really getting after opposing QB's in the preseason. Certainly can't put all your eggs in that basket and ignore OLB in the draft but he is someone to keep an eye on. It's been a longtime since one of our young OLB's was pressuring the opposing QB like that in preseason.

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lets see some Heisman ballots:

1. QB Collin Klein, Kansas State (hopefully he doesn't miss more than a game)
2. RB Kenjon Barner, Oregon
3. QB Braxton Miller, Ohio State
4. LB Manti Te’o, Notre Dame
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watching the Steelers game replay on NFL Network and think if Suisham takes the angle to pylon he makes it in for a TD, he cut it up field to soon ...

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Steelers are going to identify an OLB tweener and draft in 2nd or 3rd round like they often seem to.
Safety, LB, CB and possibly WR strike me as the biggest needs in no particular order. DLine and OT are lesser needs imo.
All that said - I go with bpa every time. If there's an excellent DE then that's what we take. The only BPAs that I'd avoid in the first round are RBs and maybe the interior OLine.

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lets see some Heisman ballots:

1. QB Collin Klein, Kansas State (hopefully he doesn't miss more than a game)
2. RB Kenjon Barner, Oregon
3. QB Braxton Miller, Ohio State
4. LB Manti Te’o, Notre Dame
5. QB Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M
1. Collin Klein (QB, Kansas St)
2. Braxton Miller (QB, Ohio State)
3. Kenjon Barner (RB, Oregon)
4. Marqis Lee (WR, USC)
5. AJ McCarron (QB, Alabama)

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Mendenhall to remain the starter
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SI released their Midseason Top 50 for the draft:

1. Barkevious Mingo (DE-OLB, LSU)
2. Bjoern Werner (DE, Florida St)
3. Star Lotulelei (NT, Utah)
4. Jarvis Jones (OLB, Georgia)
5. Taylor Lewan (OT, Michigan)
6. Jonathan Hankins (DT, Ohio State)
7. Damontre Moore (OLB, Texas A&M)
8. Chance Warmack (OG, Alabama)
9. DeMarcus Milliner (CB, Alabama)
10. Luke Joeckel (OT, Texas A&M)

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...-50/index.html

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I have to admit I chuckled at the fact that the top three players in the draft are named Barkevious, Bjoern, and Star.

Weird names and football just go together.

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