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Toronto: Needs a first line center to play with Kessel. Schenn progressed in last year playoffs and would compliment Kessel. Kadri/Bozak could fill 2 line center.
Edmonton: Have depth at RW but need a defensive 2nd line center, Grabovksi sits that role. Oil dont need more prospects at this stage
Philly: Have tremedous depth at center and having Schenn at 3rd line center will serve as a disservice to him. Flyers are in win now mode and pick up a dynamic RW. Phillys weakness is lack of defense prospects.Finn is projecting to be a top 4 defenseman. They also pick up a 2nd in a deep draft.
Toronto: Needs a first line center to play with Kessel. Schenn progressed in last year playoffs and would compliment Kessel Kadri/Bozak could fill 2 line center.
Edmonton: Have depth at RW but need a defensive 2nd line center, Grabovksi sits that role. Oil dont need more prospects at this stage
Philly: Have tremedous depth at center and have Schenn at 3rd line center will serve as a disservice to him. Flyers are in win now mode and pick up a dynamic RW. Phillys weakness is lack of defense prospects.Finn is projecting to be a top 4 defenseman. They also pick up a 2nd in a deep draft.
Toronto
Out: Matt Finn, Grabovski
In: B. Schenn
Edmonton
Out: Hemsky, 2nd
In: Grabovski
Philly
Out: B. Schenn
In: Hemsky, Finn, 2nd
Pass from the Flyers.
They can just put Briere at RW and play Schenn at C if they care that much about developing him there, but there is a strong chance that his long-term position is LW. Also, he was on the second line last year, not the third.
Read was centering the third line much of the time. He figures to drop outside, and create a spot for Couturier.
There's really not a lot of incentive there, even as a pure hockey trade. Adding in Hemsky's cap hit and injury concerns, and I don't think the extra pieces make it worthwhile for the Flyers. (That's without even considering that they just acquired Luke, making it unlikely they would ship Brayden out).
We trade Grabovski for a potential center that we already have in Kadri and we trade Matt Finn? No thanks.
Setting aside whether dealing Grabovski makes sense in the short-run (I'd assume not, but I'm not a Leaf fan), why do you liken Schenn to Kadri?
It seems to me that they are very, very different kinds of players, and I'm pretty confident that the consensus would be that Schenn is a considerable step ahead of Kadri, no?
Absolutely no incentive here for the Flyers. None at all. Don't understand why so many Leaf fans are so keen on acquiring Schenn, he does not fill a need for us. Brayden Schenn will be a good hockey player, but he will never be a franchise cornerstone, 1st line centre (nor does he need to be so long as he is in Philly).
Philly: Have tremedous depth at center and having Schenn at 3rd line center will serve as a disservice to him. Flyers are in win now mode and pick up a dynamic RW. Phillys weakness is lack of defense prospects.Finn is projecting to be a top 4 defenseman. They also pick up a 2nd in a deep draft.
Schenn will be on the 2nd line this year. Flyers don't have much interest in moving him. I'd only move Schenn for a guy with Top 2 upside, not Top 4. We have plenty of Top 3-6 guys.
Value is close otherwise. Polite no from the Flyers imo.
I feel like the days of B Schenn to Toronto are over now with Luke in Philly. We should instead start looking towards picking up a Brayden Schenn like player in the draft. Monahan or Barkov.
Setting aside whether dealing Grabovski makes sense in the short-run (I'd assume not, but I'm not a Leaf fan), why do you liken Schenn to Kadri?
It seems to me that they are very, very different kinds of players, and I'm pretty confident that the consensus would be that Schenn is a considerable step ahead of Kadri, no?
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Originally Posted by The Nuge
Kadri is nothing like Schenn actually.
I can't see why Philly does this and I have no interest in Grabovski. It helps TO in the long run, but that's about it
Their gamestyles are not similar, but they're production, age and potential is very similar.
Both produce around the same pace at the NHL level, only difference is Kadri's a bust because he's a Leaf and Schenn is the best, because he's not.
Their gamestyles are not similar, but they're production, age and potential is very similar.
Both produce around the same pace at the NHL level, only difference is Kadri's a bust because he's a Leaf and Schenn is the best, because he's not.
You seem to be dismissing the gamestyle as irrelevant, but it isn't. It might be one of the single most important factors in picking Schenn over Kadri(or vice versa).
I can't believe there are this many Edmonton fans that wouldn't trade Hemsky and a 2nd for Grabo
Toronto says no to this deal fairly easily.
Well
#1: Hemsky has only 2 years on his contract. 1 if this season is written off.
#2: Hemsky will have a lot of snipers to feed next year
#3: I hate Grabo's contract
#4: I'd rather get Schenn.
Their gamestyles are not similar, but they're production, age and potential is very similar.
Both produce around the same pace at the NHL level, only difference is Kadri's a bust because he's a Leaf and Schenn is the best, because he's not.
The fact Kadri can't crack a weak Leafs offense doesn't enter the equation? Nor the fact Brayden played more games (playoffs excluded) last year then Kadri has played in his career?
