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Missing - Einstein's Spacetime Continuum or?.....

Bear with me here as this is a Sciences Issue, Physics & the Science of Criminology...... theres a very interesting, intriguing & mysterious (as well as deadly) phenomena that has been occurring throughout North America (and Globally) for Centuries, namely the mysterious "vanishings" without a trace of people & objects (planes, ships, automobiles etc) for eons, studied & popularized of course in film etc, namely the so called "Triangles" including of course the most well known & documented, the Bermuda Triangle. There are however several other "triangle areas" which are lesser known, in Alaska, the Dragon Triangle near Japan, the latter two of which have been declared "No~Fly Zones" and in the case of the Dragon Triangle, better you dont try & navigate its seas at all. As in stay out of it, stay away. Planes, ships, private yachts just vanishing into thin air, and they wont risk sending out searches because they too fall prey to vanishings.

This phenomena however is not exclusive to open water locations (or as in the case of Alaska over 100's of square miles of open wilderness) covering 1000's of square miles, but is also disturbingly land based. About 5-6yrs ago, an Author/Researcher looking into the BigFoot mystery, a serious guy who was in Law Enforcement for over 20yrs in San Jose and who then held Senior Executive positions in the high-tech sector, David Paulides, stumbled upon an incredible really mind~blowing mystery little known & for a variety of reasons never really hitting the press & mainstream media. People gone missing without a trace & without ever being found (though some are dead or alive) in US & Canadian National Parks along with rural areas throughout North America.

Now, Paulides as a former Detective who had worked with the FBI's Missing Persons Bureau along with the San Jose PD in trying to track down runaways, investigating homicides & so on was approached one night outside of a US National Park by 2 off-duty Wardens who had worked Yellowstone, Glacier Park, you name it all over the US. They told him a story that was as baffling to them as it was to Paulides even to this day after years of investigation & 4 books called Missing411. And that is this; that 1000's of people literally have vanished into thin air, often within feet of fellow hikers & campers without a sound being heard or anything seen, anyone nor any animal being responsible, in 100's of cases children who did not just "wander off" and responsible adults who as well who "did not just wander off a well marked trail". Parents who take their eyes off their kids 10' behind them for like 3 seconds & their gone. Just vanished into thin air. The NationalPark Services claiming everythings just hunk~dory, no problems here folks.

(Note; They also claim they dont keep records of Missing Persons, absolutely absurd as every local, regional & national Law Enforcement Agency does exactly that. The US Ntl Park Services has 100's of trained Law Enforcement Officers on staff.... absurdly when Paulides requested files from the Department of the Interior through the Freedom of Information Act to get copies of the Missing Persons files & reports, told there were no records, but that if he wanted them, cost him $1.4M for the Park Services to provide them. They dont want this publicized. Were talking hundreds of millions of dollars every year to Park Services, thousands of local communities relying on park visits. Last thing in the World theyd want known or publicized is this story.)

Paulides has a strict criteria of what cases he & his group of former Law Officers, FBI Profilers, Investigative Journalists etc will pursue. That if a vanishing occurs on or near water in a Park, they wont look at it. Very likely a drowning. If theres any hint of criminal activity, they'll pass on it. And to suggest that a Serial Killer is involved is patently absurd as this has been going on since at least the 1850's & if human involvement in the abductions taking place in every case then how is it that the Serial Killer leaves no tracks whatsoever & not a sound heard when a child of 3-5-7 or a perfectly healthy adult mere feet from others just vanishes? Trackers finding no trail. Just stops dead. Bloodhounds & Cadaver Dogs finding no scent to pursue, and the sheer volume alone with over 78 Hot Spots in the US & Canada alone with 1000's of total vanishings over 150yrs... just doesnt add up some multi-generational family of psychopathic Serial Killers are stalking the Parks of North America, in dozens of places at onje time. And that when remains are found, not a trace of criminal activity. If its an animal attack then thats obvious, blood on the trail, tracks. Not looking at it. If theres major dysfunction in the family with perhaps deliberate malicious intent; not goin there, not lookin at it. Any history of alcohol or drug abuse, dimentia; dismissed. These cases have to fit a very narrow set of criteria, representing less than 5% of the total number of people who vanish in National Parks & rural areas every year.

And of course not only are the individual cases absolutely heartbreaking, they just dont come any stranger. Remains rarely found, and when they are just beyond bizarre. In one case, a perfectly healthy Tri-athelete in his 40's discovered dozens of miles from where he was last seen, quite be accident they found his backpack & possessions along with his pants & shirt crumpled on the ground after a years worth of wintering & exposure to the elements looking absolutely daisy fresh. In his pants, parts of his skeletal remains in tiny fragments & powdered like he'd been vaporized, a single molar tooth sitting on a log like a marker. Like it was placed there. In but one of the hundreds of cases investigated & documented by Paulides when the victim is found alive, High Strangeness like you would not believe. A 2yr old boy playing in the yard at his Grandparents rural farm vanished in the 5 seconds the Grandmother took her eyes off of him not 15' from the porch. Not a sound, nothing....

... the Police called immediately after a search found nothing, 100's of volunteer searchers who in 48hrs found nothing including Choppers with Forward Fleer Heat Seeking Infra Red Radar that can pickup a squirrel let alone a human being. How far could a 2 year old get in the 30-60 minutes immediately following the vanishing let alone 48 hours? Barely able to walk let alone run. No trail or track for proffesional trackers to follow; Bloodhounds finding no scent and actually acting very strangely (as is the case in every one of these mysteries) in refusing to "track". Going in circles, whining & then lying down. So, 48hrs later, having expanded the search area now over 7 miles, two seriously rugged mountain ranges, several barbed wire & frost fenced barriers that no 2yr old could ever scale let alone an extremely fit adult, they find this kid face down & unconscious in a field but alive on the outer perimeters of that 7 mile search area. No way no how did he get there on his own 2 feet.

Because he's only 2, he cant really talk, tell people what happened. Also a common element in every other case where the victims are found. They either cant or wont talk about it, almost like their memories been erased as is the case with so called Alien Abductee's. Regressive hypnotism, as pioneered by Dr. Bud Hopkins of Stanford in order to discover missing time sequences. Put the pieces back together. Now, these are Police Officers, mainstream people who in most cases arent going to be really very open to pseudo junk science, "Alien Abduction" theories or whatever, these are hardened professionals who having seen much of the ugly side of humanity & will always look for far more obvious motivations and by a person or persons as opposed to ET's. So how did this 2yr old manage to scale 2 major mountain peaks, go over or through several fences in just 48hrs without so much as leaving a trace of a trail & wind up in a field miles away? And when found not a mark on his body, no shoes on. There was no human intervention nor aide in facilitating such, no animal known to man would or could do this without a trace. Very solid family. Not a hint of anything dark or foreboding. No motive. No reason. Inexplicable.

So, what are we dealing with here? Possibly some form of a breach or door opening in the time space continuum that opens for a brief second & God help you if you happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time?. You just step into it and it seems the only explanation (unless you wanna believe Aliens are responsible) that makes any sense. One kid who was also found (and its very rare they ever are, children or adults) was discovered lying on an island in the middle of a swamp dozens upon dozens of miles way off the trail from which he'd vanished a day before not 20' from his parents & siblings in the blink of an eye. It took the rescuers a long time to make it across that swamp in rubber dingys & hip waders, yet this kid, again, not a mark on him, no dirt anywhere, no nothing. So how is that possible? And again, no memory of what happened. Found unconscious, no clothing. No harm to him physically whatsoever after a thorough & comprehensive examination.

Einstein's Spacetime Continuum Theory fits. Would explain the disappearances and how in the vast majority cases gone without a trace & never found, while in others when found the victims virtually vaporized upon return. It doesnt explain how in a number of cases a single molar is "placed" in the open as a sort of "Marker" so there has got to be some of kind intelligence behind this phenomena. Additionally, weather has played a confounding factor whereby just hours after a disappearance, clear blue skys & beautiful day, takes a turn for the worst, and I do mean worst. So something or someone could well have not only the knowledge & technical advancements to open these doors & rip through the Timespace Continuum, and if Aliens, then they are in fact "already here" and have been since well before the dawn of Man. How else to explain away days upon days of rain, snow etc further hindering search efforts in a number of cases?. Huh? Thats some serious kinda JuJu goin down if its Aliens. Could be that when the Spacetime Continuum "Door" if you will opens, creates some sort of electrical magnetic charge that affects the atmosphere & causes weather changes & disturbances... More here if interested, Paulides carefully avoiding any explanation for whats happening himself as he like everyone else completely baffled. And of course all kinds of StrangeWorld Theories, the aforementioned Serial Killers, that its BigFoot or tribe's of Wildmen, Aliens, the flying Jersey Devil or Thunderbirds of North American Indian lore.... whats your take on it?

www.canammissing.com

(you can also find interviews on youtube with Paulides, Coast to Coast AM, The Road Less Traveled etc)


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Maybe some of these people are still alive. Maybe they inadvertently walked into a portal connecting two dimensions? Maybe they're in a parallel universe now, wondering why everything is just a little off.

That's just as plausible as aliens.

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Maybe some of these people are still alive. Maybe they inadvertently walked into a portal connecting two dimensions? Maybe they're in a parallel universe now, wondering why everything is just a little off.

That's just as plausible as aliens.
Ya, most assuredly is. Possibly walking into the past or the future, parallel Universe, another Dimension. Also entirely possible their completely vaporized the nano second they step forward or move into, get caught in a field of three spatial & one temporal dimensions coalescing which is what Einstein theorized was necessary to open the pathways to the Time Continuum. This then begs the question what triggers such an opening, what conditions need to exist just naturally for spatial & temporal dimensions to coalesce resulting in such a phenomena? One of the commonalities in almost all of these disappearances is that they occur very often in boulder fields, areas with major granite surfacing. Its therefore possible that the granite, and sort of super conducted through boulder fields where there have been so many disappearance as to defy any argument that this is beyond coincidence plays a major role in these vanishings. Granite acting as a conductor in some way between the earths natural energies & electro-magnetic particle fields in the atmosphere perhaps precipitated by a sudden temperature spike up or down pushing or forcing, funneling spatial & temporal dimensions into an invisible kind of whirlwind. Highly concentrated & focused to usually a very small area at any given time though it can be broader in terms of geography & area affected....

This latter part also relevant, as storys abound of people, hikers, hunters, campers & outdoor enthusiasts, and the stories are rare but not uncommon, that they'll be walking through an area, perhaps resting, having lunch or whatever, and a very strange & unnerving feeling comes over them. The forest falls eerily silent, no birds chirping, they look at trees & see them swaying but cant hear the sound of the wind through the boughs or leaves. They get the feeling their being watched by an almost overwhelmingly evil & malevolent force that completely surrounds them. And Im talking experienced, dead sober people not prone to flights of fancy or paranoia. It happens on beautiful days, your out in Gods country miles from anyone or anywhere absolutely nothing to fear. Paulides himself recalls just such an experience while out hunting. He and an older Gentleman, also ex-military & Law Enforcement encountered just that, sat back to back (and they were armed of course) totally freaked out. Absolutely certain something beyond wicked was about to happen. Obviously it didnt, it passed, but there are 1000's of similar stories floating around out there of the same.

In one of his case files, early, like 1850's which contains exceptionally strong evidence of this theory I think is accurate, there was a father with his 3 sons building fences out in the middle of nowhere, a pond app 100' from where they were working, again, a lot of granite, rugged terrain. At anyrate, after working up a sweat, one of the 3 boys left to get some water and was being watched, clear line of vision, 100' away, they turn their heads for a few seconds and look up again, he's gone. Theres nowhere to hide. So not hiding, not messing around playing games. No trees or coverage. Wide open. See everything. His pails gone, he's gone. No ripples in the water, no splash that he dove in & is hiding underwater as he couldnt even swim. The father & 2 brothers, totally freaked. How could he just vanish like that? They looked hi & low. Just gone.... then about 3 hours later, he just reappears. Walking up the same way he left with the pail in his hand, totally stunned, white faced, shaking like a leaf, fractured. Said that as he approached the pond to get water, everything just fell totally silent. He turned around, his father & 2 brothers had completely vanished, no fence no nothing, just the landscape but somehow "different", very oppressive, like he was being watched, became terrified very quickly when suddenly it was over. Despite the missing time for him what was apparently seconds in his fathers & brothers real~time hours....

Very intriguing story, clues strongly point to the Spacetime Continuum theory as being responsible. The other thing to consider is that in so called "Hauntings" of buildings, even areas, theres often natural explanations for them whereby EMF's are being discharged from the natural rock & shale in the area; also from man made devices that affect the brain in such a way as to create feelings of dread & fear, wild imaginings then following, of Specters, Voices, Whispering, Shadow People watching from the deep corners of a room, general fear & paranoia. All manner of imaginings. Not in every case of course & a different topic altogether but the point is that EMF's are very real, a power not entirely understood and may play a part in this whole affair on some level as well.


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Maybe some of these people are still alive. Maybe they inadvertently walked into a portal connecting two dimensions? Maybe they're in a parallel universe now, wondering why everything is just a little off.

That's just as plausible as aliens.

Just as plausible?

We'd all agree that it's beyond reasonable that there's extra-terrestrial life given the size and age of the universe. Whether or not they visit here isn't a question we can answer by assigning probability because we'd have no basis for it.

This universe is known, in that sense. Once you get into other dimensions, portals, and parallel universes, it's a different game of cards, imho.

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This universe is known, in that sense. Once you get into other dimensions, portals, and parallel universes, it's a different game of cards, imho.
Sure enough. Now if ET's are as beyond advanced as we cant even possibly begin to imagine then its also probable (Id say more than probable, as in Im 110% convinced of it) that any number of Alien species are traveling through portals multi~dimensionally. Bending & controlling the Space Time Continuum with the kind of ease we have in riding a bicycle. Childs play. Its further speculated by some that a malevolent Alien species is responsible for these disappearances, not all but some, creating these doorways or vortexes if you will telepathically that people unwittingly & innocently step through, vanishing forever. In some of these cases as mentioned above, they find the victims clothing in a heap, like theyve melted. Just 100's of bone chips & powder, but not any major bones. There gone. Couple of times a skull platelet but no major bones ever found. And what to make of in several cases a single molar left out in full view? Like a marker. Just bizarre. Weird. High strangeness... So yep, all kinds of theories. As soon as you think you might have a handle on it its' like "ahhh, but for".

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As previously mentioned, could be aliens simply abducting people and never "returning" them.

Parallel universes intersecting causes people to disappear.

There's believed to be "hot spots" that can instantaneously transport you hundreds of thousands of light years away.

I guess it could be possible to affect someone to put them out of sync so we can't see, or hear them. What "that" could be, I have no idea. Stargate references this type of technology with Merlin. He was able to hide in another dimension and work so no one could discover what he was working on. Also in the Crystal Skull episode (based on the actual discoveries of Crystal Skulls which were fake) That altered what dimension you were in and it also transported you.

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That's crazy.

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That's crazy.
What is? The story? Me?

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Dont blame the Jersey Devil on this.

First the trap destroys the NHL and now were responsible for hundreds of strange disappearances?

Too much to take!

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^^^ ya, not to mention that if it was the Jersey Devil, its range & territory would be Global, well beyond the Pine Barrens of South Jersey. The very suggestion its the Jersey Devil or Thunderbirds patently absurd. The Thunderbirds wings according to myth & lore supposedly of such a size as to be able to alter the weather and while flapping sounding like rumbling thunder, hence the name.... would surely draw the attention of a group of hikers on a trail as it swooped down and picked one of them off huh? Sounds to me like it would block out the sunlight & sky for miles. Other suggestions include BigFoot of course, but again, no tracks, no nothing, and vanishings within feet of others. Those things apparently reek to high heaven so at minimum you'd smell it coming. No way you'd miss some cryptid 10 or 20 or 40 feet away on the trail or in the air, and of course, they dont exist. Possibly Sasquatch but if so, very likely a multi-dimensional being of some kind, and thats stretching credulity. If its a serial killer or group of them & multi-generational, then its the greatest, longest running series of abductions & murder ever diabolically executed leaving not a single clue of human intervention & culpability over 150yrs & 1000's of cases just in the US alone.

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The obvious answer, at least for the cases of adults, is that these people simply wanted to "disappear" and were never found because they didnt want to be. A new life. A fresh start. Maybe another country. Maybe a new family.

Maybe they were murdered (by humans...), in some cases? not found because the murderer took the bodies somewhere.

Now, that doesnt explain the Bermuda Triangle of course, but it most certainly does explain a portion of the cases of missing individuals.

If we're going to go completely into the sci-fi realm, my vote is on aliens. I find the existence of intelligent life from other then earth more plausible then some sort of worm whole or other quantum physic equation. Of course that then begins a an almost chicken and egg scenario; If aliens exist would they not need one of these theoretical physics things to reach earth in the first place?

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Oh, this even gets stranger.....

^^^ Any hint of that, Paulides wont even look at the case. The cases he looks at and includes in the case files are of completely stable individuals between the ages of about 24-54, stable individuals with no history whatsoever, no hints that theyd have any reason to want to disappear (and yes many people do do that quite deliberately) and every reason on earth to stick around. Loving & supportive families, no marital discord, kids, in the vast majority of the cases well educated, financially secure, no gambling, drug or alcohol problems. Every reason not to disappear. Any hint otherwise, those cases are eliminated.

Also, the vast majority of these disappearances are with children aged 2 to about 8 or 9. The next largest % being older people, 55+ basically. Whats also interesting is that in Paulides profiling of these victims, many of them suffer from some form of either physical or mental handicaps, precluding their ability of the very very few found alive if at all in communicating coherently as to what exactly happened.

Most of these cases involve group situations whereby there are 2, 4, 6 or more people on a trail or out in the wilderness, a person vanishing literally in the blink of an eye, and nowhere to have found a hiding spot or cover if they were trying to disappear of their own volition. Additionally after a frantic search by the missings friends & family, authorities notified, 100's of Professional Search & Rescue, Trackers, Bloodhounds, cant find a hint of a scent.

Thats just not plausible that they wouldnt or couldnt in so confined an area right on a trail. They use grid patterns, ever increasing, with front, middle and back searchers looking in the same grids. Triple coverage. Choppers with Forward Fleer Infra-Red Heat Seeking Radar. Nothing. Gone. Vanished. No trail. No scent. Nada. Sometimes the victims body is found, and in a tonne of cases within feet or yards of where they disappeared from days into the search. In every case almost face down, no shoes. No way the searchers wouldve missed that. Heck, the victims hiking companions wouldve spotted them. Practically right out in the open. Like they'd been placed there after theyd gone missing & after the area had been searched. And not a mark on the bottom of their bare feet.

There was another strange case in California, Mammoth Ski Area. A woman in her 40's I believe, a GP, was skiing for the day with her husband. Happily married couple. Not a hint of trouble in their marriage nor with the relationship. Last run of the day, she goes down one run, her husband the other, nothing major, you can see the base lodge & parking lots, meet at the bottom. So he gets to the bottom & waits, and waits, and waits. A 4 minute run turning into 40 minutes, 2 hours. Freak out time. Ski Patrol, Resort Personnel, Cops, 100's of volunteers hitting that trail before nightfall. Nothing. Not even a sign, a trail in the snow of a pair of ski's going off-trail into the woods. Next day, same thing. Massive search. Goes on for 10 days, never found. No pockets in the snow like a sinkhole avalanche responsible, no groomers on the trail that mightve run her over....

The next spring however, about 15' off the run about halfway down, they discover her remains. And not much. Again, some skiwear in which their were a few larger bones, 100's of tiny fragments of bone & powder, no skull, no collar or hip bone, nothing major. No blood on her skisuit or tears as would be if attacked by a Cougar or a Bear; run over by a Groomer & dumped to hide a crime. And why wasnt that found the previous winter when the search was launched? Just a few feet off the trail which was carefully searched. Mammoth isnt some wild Heli~Skiing type area. Its all carefully managed forest & trails. Like a golf course in many ways in that regard. My intial reaction to this case was that she'd been run over by a Groomer, the guy freaked out, buried her body off trail. Or didnt know he'd done it & her body was buried in the snow. But the Bloodhounds wouldve found her while searching.

There was a similar case in Europe. Canadian guy, hockey player playing pro over there, goes skiing one day, run over by a groomer. Buried in a fissure on a glacial run. Wasnt found for ages. Parents devastated. Car left sitting in the parking lot for over a week before being reported. No closure. Just disappeared. Finally was found a couple of years or more later and the reason for his death quite obvious. Bones crushed, ski suit & skis shredded by the tracks of the groomer. With the lady who vanished on Mammoth, ski wear in mint condition. No blood, no rips or tears. No clues. Not even found when the area had been gone over with a fine tooth comb repeatedly. Like she went out through the in~door then came back in through the out~door of some sort of a timespace continuum. A Vortex. Its the only thing that makes any sense.

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The scary part is the lack of tracks , clues etc.

And people being vaporized??

To me, that would sound like aliens

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The scary part is the lack of tracks , clues etc.

And people being vaporized??

To me, that would sound like aliens
Ya. If an animal attack, your gunna hear it or if not, blood, signs of tracks, clothing, drag marks. If someones grabbed within 15-30-60' or whatever on a trail by Serial Killers or a Cryptid like Bigfoot, in the case of a child weighing 60-80lbs or whatever, thats one thing, but how do you explain adults weighing 175++lbs and no cry for help, no sign of struggle, no trail & no scent? If theyve deliberately left the trail & "planned" to disappear (with not a shred of evidence to suggest that they would) and took off, then how come no trail, no scent? Bloodhounds live for tracking. Just love it. Yet in every case of this classification of cases investigated by Paulides, the dogs having been given the scent of the victim will maybe go 10 or 30' from where the individual was last seen, start acting real weird, going in circles, inexplicably lie down.

I used the word "vaporized" as that certainly appears to be whats happened. Only a few larger leg bones remaining in the pants, total absence of major bones (knee's etc, hip, shoulder, skull) and no sign that any animal has been present & carried them away. 100's of tiny shards of pone surrounding the area. And most disturbingly, a single molar found on top of a log or a rock like it was placed there as a marker. Another description when remains are found is that victim appears to have been like "sucked out of their clothes". Like if you undid you pants and just dropped them around your ankles & stepped out of them, leaving them like that.

So clearly there seems to be some form of intelligence behind all of this. If its just an accidental freak of nature, whereby a doorway opens to the Spacetime Continuum that people unwittingly step through & are obviously destroyed (though not always), then how to explain that when bodies (within feet of where they disappeared from in some cases already gone over with a fine tooth comb) or remains are found, the evidence pointing to some sort of malevolent & decidedly non human, mammal or cryptid design behind it.

That only leaves one possibility & that would most assuredly be Aliens and more specifically, Aliens manipulating & managing the Space Time Continuum at will, and quite possibly telepathically as theres never been any reports of UFO sightings accompanying these disappearances before, during or after they occur. Though I guess like Star Trek they could be using transporters from a Galaxy far far away huh? Dark Side of the Moon or whatever. But no, Im thinking manipulation of the Spacetime Continuum. Multi~dimensional travelers.

Theoretically beyond possible & therefore IMO, probable. It also goes a long way in explaining how it is that when UFO's have been seen, tracked on ground & air radar simultaneously with eyewitness accounts, traveling at speeds in excess of 5000 miles an hour & performing maneuvers that would crush a human being with g-forces, just vanishing into the horizon in a blink of an eye and all in complete silence, gotta be a connection. Clearly capable of bending the Spacetime Continuum in a vacuum, harnessing it, anti~gravity energy used as propulsion & so beyond advanced controlled and in the case of UFO's, craft piloted by telepathy.

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this is very fascinating and scary at the same time. If we had the choice and lets say it's a 50/50 chance you'll survive, do you walk through a 'vortex' knowing you could see things you wouldn't see in your lifetime x 100? I think I might when I'm in my 60's or 70's. I've already accepted I most likely won't be able to explore space casually in my lifetime, so might as well try and see if I can see a parallel dimension, or go to the farthest reaches of the universe.

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this is very fascinating and scary at the same time. If we had the choice and lets say it's a 50/50 chance you'll survive, do you walk through a 'vortex' knowing you could see things you wouldn't see in your lifetime x 100?
You mean if you had a spontaneous choice to make while out hiking, encountering a palpable electrical energy field right in front of you & "thought" you knew what it was, with no real form of reference short of science fiction movies & TV shows?. Youve heard the story of Travis Walton? Fire in the Sky?. He did something similar. Back in the 70's in Arizona. Ruined his life & those of others. Out logging, going home, "fire in the sky" is a bright light, UFO. Walton jumps out of a truck to go check it out, gets beamed on~board and vanishes. Nightmare situation & scenario, story that follows..... It would really depend on the individual. How much of a risk taker, daredevil they might be. Most people would be dumbfounded, terrified and theres a case of exactly that in one of Paulides books....

Lumberjack sized guy, I believe ex-military & out hunting or hiking, beautiful day. Suddenly the forest grows silent, no sound of birds, wind through the pines, nothing. Everything oppressive. The trail directly ahead of him has some sort of opaque pinkish field to it which extends upwards & to the left & right without any visible endings or edges to it. Like a fog. Stunned but curious, he sticks a foot into it and it completely disappears. No longer curious, he's freaked bordering on terrified. Backs on out of there at a full sprint and doesnt stop until reaching other people & what he thinks is safety.

So you really dont know how youd react just as a soldier going into battle for the first time, most having no idea how they'll react when it comes time to pull the trigger & take anothers life, meet the enemy eye~ball. Well trained, well armed, but you hear about it. Some people just freeze. But if your talking about some kind of Stargate where you know whats on the other side & your decision to enter it is not spontaneous but thought through..... or as in the case of some cultures beliefs with SpiritGuides, people you know & who are deceased, who purportedly appear in front of you inviting & beckoning you into a Vortex with assurances that its safe, that its "your time" or whatever, well, thats an entirely different matter & subject altogether from this one. These people are not disappearing voluntarily. No way.


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It's amazing that a bigger deal isn't made of this. I'm glad I clicked onto this thread.

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It's amazing that a bigger deal isn't made of this. I'm glad I clicked onto this thread.
Ya, its very weird but understandable. People go missing in National Parks & in the Wilderness all the time, some deliberate, others accidental, all kinds of perfectly plausible reasons & explanations. No real mystery to most of them. But the slightly less than 5% that Pailides investigates based on a very narrow & super~strict field of criteria, absolutely mind boggling mystery, over 78 hot zones, major clusters of totally unexplained disappearances over 150 years, 1000's of people. These disappearances while occurring in clusters (Yellowstone by far the highest number of disappearances) and by the 100's & 1000's have occurred over 3-5-8 years in each location, over decades, only discovered & uncovered when Paulides was tipped off by a couple of off~duty Park Wardens who knew him by reputation that "hey, somethin very strange going on here. Being covered up & you might wanna look into it".

In the US the National Park System is overseen & managed by the Department of the Interior. Paulides applied for the files on a few cases along with all the files on Glacier National Park I believe it was through the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA). At first told the National Parks dont keep records on Missing People. How mind blowing is that? Here a governmental agency employing their own highly trained Law Enforcement, overseeing millions of miles of Wilderness, 10's of millions of visits every year & they dont keep track of or even create Missing Persons Reports? Thats nonsense. Of course they do. But they deny it, demand huge sums of $$$ to dig them up (so I guess they do exist huh?) to discourage nosy investigators & journalists.

A very real Conspiracy subverting the law in denying access to files not even protected by Criminal Code's as "gone missing" isnt even classified as an actual crime. Its no crime to disappear. In these cases as theres no hint of a perpetrator ('s) and homicide. Of a kidnapping or whatever with ransom being demanded. Of suicides. In cases like that, ya, sometimes files sealed. Not in these ones though. Obviously if people knew about this, could seriously affect the billions of dollars the parks receive & the local communities rely upon X 1000's near the parks annually. People would think twice about visiting. Some, not a chance. Risk. A very small one but % of vanishings, the numbers, the sheer volume a rather foreboding thought. Paulides himself recommends at minimum never go hiking or riding or whatever alone, go in armed if you can or feel comfortable with a gun (its legal to carry a gun in a US Ntl Park provided you have the proper permit) and carry a Transponder in your pocket. Couple of them. Anything ever happens, its like a Panic Button. GPS signal.

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