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Top D-man 45 88.24%
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11-13-2012, 01:26 AM
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Which is a more pressing need?

Hey fellow Avs fans,

I think the major consensus among Avs fans is that our two most pressing needs are a #1 or 2 D-man to pair with EJ or a high scoring winger. I was wondering what you guys think is more pressing. On paper, I would say the D-man but stats suggest that we need more scoring(Duchene did have a down year however and is expected to bounce back and we added P.A Parenteau).

So which is the more pressing need?

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Top D-Man because Duchene and Landeskog have the potential to turn into high scoring forwards while we have no one to play beside EJ. Plus we have a ton of depth on offense while on defense we have EJ, a couple of decent defensemen (Hejda and O'Byrne) and a bunch of scrubs.

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Although I do think that we really lack a true 1st line goal scorer, I find that our current depth is sufficient for the time being. So I'll go with a top pairing d-man.


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11-13-2012, 10:55 AM
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Top d-man, need it more then a winger.

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11-13-2012, 11:13 AM
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We've had one of the lowest scoring teams in the league the last few years... we don't currently have anyone who can take over a game and score the big goals.

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11-13-2012, 11:17 AM
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We've had one of the lowest scoring teams in the league the last few years... we don't currently have anyone who can take over a game and score the big goals.
and it's mostly because our defense sucks. We need puck-moving defenseman.

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Dman by ten miles. I know it's spilled milk, and I know Colorado never had a shot at him anyway, but getting Suter would have filled the biggest hole on this team.

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and it's mostly because our defense sucks. We need puck-moving defenseman.
Uh, no. Our offense sucked when we had puck moving defensemen too. We've got the most pathetic scoring lines in the league.

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Uh, no. Our offense sucked when we had puck moving defensemen too. We've got the most pathetic scoring lines in the league.
I don't think it falls entirely on our offensive lines, I think its that our players have been misused at a lot of times. And if we had the PMD's we wouldnt have such a hard time in the neutral zone agains defensive teams, which would equate to a lot more goals.

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I don't think it falls entirely on our offensive lines, I think its that our players have been misused at a lot of times. And if we had the PMD's we wouldnt have such a hard time in the neutral zone agains defensive teams, which would equate to a lot more goals.
Tell me who on the team actually has a good sense of goal scoring. Stastny continuously misses empty nets, Duchene tries stupid moves that make him lose the puck before he has a chance to shoot, Jones is inconsistent at best, and Landeskog is still an unknown because although he is willing to shoot, he's not very accurate.

We have no 1st line scoring, because we have no first line... we have a collection of second and fourth liners.

Sure, better defense would be great... but we're still going to lose a ton of games 2-1 until we get some real scorers.

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Tell me who on the team actually has a good sense of goal scoring. Stastny continuously misses empty nets, Duchene tries stupid moves that make him lose the puck before he has a chance to shoot, Jones is inconsistent at best, and Landeskog is still an unknown because although he is willing to shoot, he's not very accurate.

We have no 1st line scoring, because we have no first line... we have a collection of second and fourth liners.

Sure, better defense would be great... but we're still going to lose a ton of games 2-1 until we get some real scorers.
I agree with most of this, but if you think that as of now forwards are more of a pressing need than a partner for EJ than you haven't been watching the Avs this past year. I mean O'Brien as a top line D is/was absolutely frightening.

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Tell me who on the team actually has a good sense of goal scoring. Stastny continuously misses empty nets, Duchene tries stupid moves that make him lose the puck before he has a chance to shoot, Jones is inconsistent at best, and Landeskog is still an unknown because although he is willing to shoot, he's not very accurate.

We have no 1st line scoring, because we have no first line... we have a collection of second and fourth liners.

Sure, better defense would be great... but we're still going to lose a ton of games 2-1 until we get some real scorers.
why dont you wait till you see duchene not playing injured w/ an actual winger in parenteau before you write him off as a career 2nd liner, and instead of plugging the next biggest hole which is clearly defense you would spend to the cap or trade away young developing players to bring in other teams scraps or rentals for a team thats no where near contending yet? you have to remember the rebuild just started 3 years ago, this team still has growing to do. It takes time for a team to form into something successful. Once you have a solid core then you add a scoring winger through a trade or f.a.

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why dont you wait till you see duchene not playing injured w/ an actual winger in parenteau before you write him off as a career 2nd liner, and instead of plugging the next biggest hole which is clearly defense you would spend to the cap or trade away young developing players to bring in other teams scraps or rentals for a team thats no where near contending yet? you have to remember the rebuild just started 3 years ago, this team still has growing to do. It takes time for a team to form into something successful. Once you have a solid core then you add a scoring winger through a trade or f.a.
Duchene has only had anything resembling chemistry with one player since entering the NHL, Fleischmann, so I'm skeptical that Parenteau will be what magically fixes his game.

By the way, the rebuild began longer than 3 years ago... 3 years ago is just when the Avs started sucking so badly enough that rebuilding was possible through the draft.

No team is successful without a one-two punch... the Avs don't even have one punch... they have an open hand slap and a kick to the shin. Team is going nowhere until they get real scoring talent, especially considering the defense is currently the best it's been since the previous lockout.

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Duchene has only had anything resembling chemistry with one player since entering the NHL, Fleischmann, so I'm skeptical that Parenteau will be what magically fixes his game.

By the way, the rebuild began longer than 3 years ago... 3 years ago is just when the Avs started sucking so badly enough that rebuilding was possible through the draft.

No team is successful without a one-two punch... the Avs don't even have one punch... they have an open hand slap and a kick to the shin. Team is going nowhere until they get real scoring talent, especially considering the defense is currently the best it's been since the previous lockout.
I kind of wish we gave Semin a shot, even for that price if it were one year. The reward vs. risk may have been enormous.

Semin - Duchene - Parenteau would be a real threat to opposition teams in my opinion. I also thought Duchene had good chemistry with Mueller, who I am still gutted about not being re-signed.

Assuming Mcginn, Stazz and Jones may be our top line next season, your right about production though. Considering COMBINED, they totaled 127 points, versus say Malkin, who got 109 on his own, it makes you think, where IS the scoring upside going to come from?

Like others have said though, a consistent, you know what you get puck moving D-man is a massive hole we have left vacant (my hope is Barrie steps up, originally I had hoped it was Elliott).

So I think everyone in this thread is right. We equally need a blue chip goal scorer. We equally need a puck moving D-man. Aside from that (and maybe a new coach), we are ok.

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