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11-19-2012, 02:54 PM
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Value of James Reimer

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So with lots of discussion about Luongo potentially landing in Toronto,

What kind of return would Reimer net if Burke were to acquire Luongo?

- Teams may be looking for a 1A/1B type goalie (Chicago/San Jose), or a young goalie who could take over for an aging goalie a year or 2 down the road (New Jersey).

- We've seen young goalies like Lindback/Bobrosky net solid returns, Reimer is probably in a similar ballpark valuewise.

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11-19-2012, 03:02 PM
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I would expect a significant haul. Reimer has shown to be a competent #1 goaltender. The only issue is that he was injured and was not able to become consistent because of those injuries.

He should pull in a #1 and a good(not elite) prospect or 2nd line/pairing player.

I would expect something like SJ 1st + Clowe. Something of that nature. or 1st+Clarkson from NJ.

That being said, I would much prefer to roll Luongo and reimer as a pairing and move reimer at the deadline when he has proven to overcome his injury and consistency issues.

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7th round pick

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* Mods sorry if you dont think this deserves a thread.

So with lots of discussion about Luongo potentially landing in Toronto,

What kind of return would Reimer net if Burke were to acquire Luongo?

- Teams may be looking for a 1A/1B type goalie (Chicago/San Jose), or a young goalie who could take over for an aging goalie a year or 2 down the road (New Jersey).

- We've seen young goalies like Lindback/Bobrosky net solid returns, Reimer is probably in a similar ballpark valuewise.

Discuss.
San Jose won't be interested. We have Niemi and Greiss right now as our NHL goalies. We also have a few promising goalies in the system. We'd give our best goalie prospect, Alex Stalock, a chance at the starting job before we acquire a potential starting goalie. Goaltending isn't a problem for us anyway.

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I would expect a significant haul. Reimer has shown to be a competent #1 goaltender. The only issue is that he was injured and was not able to become consistent because of those injuries.

He should pull in a #1 and a good(not elite) prospect or 2nd line/pairing player.

I would expect something like SJ 1st + Clowe. Something of that nature. or 1st+Clarkson from NJ.

That being said, I would much prefer to roll Luongo and reimer as a pairing and move reimer at the deadline when he has proven to overcome his injury and consistency issues.
1st + clowe?!?!?!? wut?

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That seems abitious to me.

I would think a team like Chicago/San Jose may be willing to move a late 1st for him.

If San Jose/Chicago lands the 25-30 pick the chances of it helping as much as Reimer is pretty minimal.

I would say Reimer is in the same league as Crawford/Niemi so both teams would get some competitive goaltending.

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I would expect a significant haul. Reimer has shown to be a competent #1 goaltender. The only issue is that he was injured and was not able to become consistent because of those injuries.

He should pull in a #1 and a good(not elite) prospect or 2nd line/pairing player.

I would expect something like SJ 1st + Clowe. Something of that nature. or 1st+Clarkson from NJ.

That being said, I would much prefer to roll Luongo and reimer as a pairing and move reimer at the deadline when he has proven to overcome his injury and consistency issues.
You wouldn't get that from SJ.

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You wouldn't get that from SJ.
By virtue of them having Niemi, right?

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I would expect a significant haul. Reimer has shown to be a competent #1 goaltender. The only issue is that he was injured and was not able to become consistent because of those injuries.

He should pull in a #1 and a good(not elite) prospect or 2nd line/pairing player.

I would expect something like SJ 1st + Clowe. Something of that nature. or 1st+Clarkson from NJ.

That being said, I would much prefer to roll Luongo and reimer as a pairing and move reimer at the deadline when he has proven to overcome his injury and consistency issues.

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I would expect a significant haul. Reimer has shown to be a competent #1 goaltender. The only issue is that he was injured and was not able to become consistent because of those injuries.

He should pull in a #1 and a good(not elite) prospect or 2nd line/pairing player.

I would expect something like SJ 1st + Clowe. Something of that nature. or 1st+Clarkson from NJ.

That being said, I would much prefer to roll Luongo and reimer as a pairing and move reimer at the deadline when he has proven to overcome his injury and consistency issues.
This seems a tad absurd. Lindback returned 2x 2nd round picks and a 3rd, I'd expect Reimer to bring back marginally more than that. Personally, I would expect more quantity than quality in a Reimer deal. For example, instead of getting a 1st I'd expect more of a 2nd and 3rd. And I don't think a forward like Clowe would be on the table at all. Heck, throw a 2nd rounder in there and we'll send Luongo back for your suggested package.

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By virtue of them having Niemi, right?
By virtue of goalies not being worth that much in the current goalie market

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In regards to the OP question, I would say the same value as Lindback/Bobrosky, so a 2nd + a somewhat decent prospect.

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By virtue of them having Niemi, right?
That and Reimer isn't worth that much.

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a 2nd or 3rd. He really hasn't done anything noteworthy

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Reimer would be a great backup, building value for a few years. Then, maybe when he's 27 or 28 and really ready to be a solid starter, you make the decision on who to t rade.

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Probably a 2nd + 3rd. Reimer is like every other hyped up leafs goalie. First it was Raycroft, then Gustavsson, now this.

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Probably a 2nd/3rd. He is at that awkward stage where he isn't proven enough to give up much for, but he has done enough for Toronto to value him highly. Better off keeping him.

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There's no way the Devils would trade Clarkson and a 1st for Reimer. Pure insanity.

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That and Reimer isn't worth that much.
I don't get it. Clowe isn't that fantastic either

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By virtue of goalies not being worth that much in the current goalie market
We've seen comparable goalies net impressive returns (Lindback/Bob)

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That and Reimer isn't worth that much.
Again, we've seen young goalies (with lesser resumes than Reimer) net fairly significant returns.

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Leafs won't be trading for Luongo.

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I don't get it. Clowe isn't that fantastic either
Would you give us Kulemin and a 1st for Niemi?

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Would you give us Kulemin and a 1st for Niemi?
I would if our first was likely going to be in the 20-30 range.

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We've seen comparable goalies net impressive returns (Lindback/Bob)



Again, we've seen young goalies (with lesser resumes than Reimer) net fairly significant returns.
So naturally Reimer would net 3x the return - after several teams made their trade to fill their goaltending hole.

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