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02-08-2005, 01:56 PM
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Hogan sounds like a good nickname

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Also said he would make the space for him here.

I think that comment reflected more of a defiant reaction against his AHL suspension. Like everyone else, Gainey was extremely peeved at the the AHL President for that suspension.

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Why do you keep calling him Perezhogan?

P-E-R-E-Z-H-O-G-I-N
I guess im a tad slow?

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Hogan sounds like a good nickname
Only if he starts playing in yellow briefs, rips his jersey apart and does leg drops on his opponents. :lol

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Would that make us Hulkamaniacs?

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Hogan sounds like a good nickname
I really like the Perezhiggins duo...

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Only if he starts playing in yellow briefs, rips his jersey apart and does leg drops on his opponents. :lol
hahahaha.

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The smile on my face after reading his comments was ridiculous, that's awesome. The fact that he's doing so well with the language, the production, the invites to big tournaments. Man I am so excited for Hockey, those money grubbing ********

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Sundstrom is totally not ment to be on this team!

Hossa-Koivu-Zednick (Hossa finally has his chance, setting space for Koivu and Zednick)
Perezhogin-Ribeiro-Ryder
Bulis-Bonk-Higgins( 3 2-way players with real offensive upside!)
Goon-Bégin-Ward

this should be our four lines!

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Originally Posted by Marcel the great!
Sundstrom is totally not ment to be on this team!

Hossa-Koivu-Zednick (Hossa finally has his chance, setting space for Koivu and Zednick)
Perezhogin-Ribeiro-Ryder
Bulis-Bonk-Higgins( 3 2-way players with real offensive upside!)
Goon-Bégin-Ward

this should be our four lines!
Like I said before what waste of money he was...Higgins and Hossa can take his place.

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Originally Posted by Marcel the great!
Sundstrom is totally not ment to be on this team!

Hossa-Koivu-Zednick (Hossa finally has his chance, setting space for Koivu and Zednick)
Perezhogin-Ribeiro-Ryder
Bulis-Bonk-Higgins( 3 2-way players with real offensive upside!)
Goon-Bégin-Ward

this should be our four lines!
Someone's gonna have to teach Higgins how to play RW first, and someone should really go explain to Pleks why the best player on the farm didn't get the call up.

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If Perez, Higgins, and Plekanec all earn spots if and when hockey returns (and I don't think 3 rookie call-ups is going to be a stretch in the "new-look" NHL...Boston will probably have about 8), Bulis will be the next casualty. He's got the most trade value among our expendable guys, and I think management has grown tired of his perennial lack of offence.

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If Perez, Higgins, and Plekanec all earn spots if and when hockey returns (and I don't think 3 rookie call-ups is going to be a stretch in the "new-look" NHL...Boston will probably have about 8), Bulis will be the next casualty. He's got the most trade value among our expendable guys, and I think management has grown tired of his perennial lack of offence.
And what would make you or anyone else think the management has grown tired of Bulis ?

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And what would make you or anyone else think the management has grown tired of Bulis ?
He's not talented enough to be a scorer, he's not tough enough to be a character player, and his defensive play, while good, is not good enough to justify keeping him on the roster for that reason alone.

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If Perez, Higgins, and Plekanec all earn spots if and when hockey returns (and I don't think 3 rookie call-ups is going to be a stretch in the "new-look" NHL...Boston will probably have about 8), Bulis will be the next casualty. He's got the most trade value among our expendable guys, and I think management has grown tired of his perennial lack of offence.
I really dont know if Management has grown tired of Bulis lack of offense, because hes a two way player. If he doesnt score, he can be a third liner and play a good two-way game or play soley on the PK or of course fill in for a forward in the top 6 when injuries become an issue. Hes versatile player, who imo should be kept, unless of course the offer is just too good to refuse. A D-man would make a lot of sense for Bulis, but i dont think hed fetch us a top 4, which is what we really need. Plus, with the way Bulis is playing in europe as of right now (top 6 in scoring), im sure even if management had given up on him they would be willing to give him another shot based on those merits......

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Hes versatile player, who imo should be kept, unless of course the offer is just too good to refuse. A D-man would make a lot of sense for Bulis, but i dont think hed fetch us a top 4, which is what we really need.
Maybe not on his own, but along with a minor prospect or a pick a tough number-4 d-man isn't out of the question for Bulis. We need guys like that (especially with Hainey looking like he's on the train to Bustville) more than we need a guy like Jan right now.

I like him too, but I think we should trade him to fill our holes, considering our large number of smallish forwards.

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We should trade Bulis + Hainsey for a top4 guy.

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We should trade Bulis + Hainsey for a top4 guy.
That's what I was thinking -- a trade along those lines. It might even be for a well-known veteran. Gainey isn't afraid to bust things up to get solid, dependable leaders into his line up. He's shown that in the past.

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Maybe not on his own, but along with a minor prospect or a pick a tough number-4 d-man isn't out of the question for Bulis. We need guys like that (especially with Hainey looking like he's on the train to Bustville) more than we need a guy like Jan right now.

I like him too, but I think we should trade him to fill our holes, considering our large number of smallish forwards.
I agree about Hainsey and our urgent need for a Dman but the way Bulis has been playing in Europe and the different roles he can play (pretty much what Mooch said), I don't see the Habs getting rid of him. Also at 6'1 210, is Jan that small?

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He's not talented enough to be a scorer, he's not tough enough to be a character player, and his defensive play, while good, is not good enough to justify keeping him on the roster for that reason alone.
Over the last two seasons :

Season Team GP G A TP PIM +/- PP SHG GW S Pct
2002-03 MONT, NHL 82 16 24 40 30 9 0 0 2 160 10.00
2003-04 MONT, NHL 72 13 17 30 30 -8 1 1 4 147 8.84

Which combines into

GP G A TP
154 29 41 70

He got the 5th best min/game average among our forwards in 02-03 and it actually increased to 4th last season.

I see nothing that suggests that "the management" has grown tired of his play. So that makes it your opinion. Sorry if I'm being a little bit anal about this but I just think it's an important distinction to make.

Personally I think Bulis is a great asset. A very useful player who can play anywhere from the 4th to the 1st line. Hopefully he never has to play on the 1st line again, but he's a nice insurance in case of injuries. I see him as a damn good 3rd liner. Plus he makes a reasonable salary. It's frustrating to see him miss all the chance he creates for himself because of his speed, but even then he's still an asset. Imagine Bulis in a career year where everything goes in...

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We should trade Bulis + Hainsey for a top4 guy.
Hainsey has no value though. Everyone around the league knows about Hainsey developement up too now. We would probably have to use a 1st or second round pick, maybe more, to get a top 4 D-man..

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Jan Bulis will be a late bloomer, heard it here first!

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I really dont know if Management has grown tired of Bulis lack of offense, because hes a two way player. If he doesnt score, he can be a third liner and play a good two-way game or play soley on the PK or of course fill in for a forward in the top 6 when injuries become an issue. Hes versatile player, who imo should be kept, unless of course the offer is just too good to refuse. A D-man would make a lot of sense for Bulis, but i dont think hed fetch us a top 4, which is what we really need. Plus, with the way Bulis is playing in europe as of right now (top 6 in scoring), im sure even if management had given up on him they would be willing to give him another shot based on those merits......
I really don't consider Bulis to be a 2-way forward. 2-way implies that they can play in both ends of the ice. Bulis just hasn't shown me that he can do that. He looks far more like a defensive winger to me than a 2-way winger. He's a lot like Sundstrom in that respect. They can both score lots in Europe too.

I'm not saying he hasn't got the potential to be a 2-way guy, but he just hasn't put up the numbers so far. Aside from the year he got all kinds of time on the top line with Koivu, he's never topped 30 points.

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I see nothing that suggests that "the management" has grown tired of his play. So that makes it your opinion. Sorry if I'm being a little bit anal about this but I just think it's an important distinction to make.
You're right. It is my opinion. I never said it wasn't. I'm just looking at the roster over the next couple of years. We've got 3 guys who the Habs HAVE to find spots for in the next few years, and we have gaping holes in the defence. And then you have Bulis, a low-cost player who is earning a decent reputation around the league as a two-way forward. Guys like that are commodities, and Bulis in particular tantilizes with his offensive potential. I think we as Hab fans realize by now that he'll never be an offensive force -- the guy's got hands of stone -- but someone out there might be willing to take a chance that he'll be able to fill that role for their club, especially since the ranks of dependable veteran players are going to thin out because of the strike. I like Bulis personally, but if we can get a defenceman for him, I'd be very happy to trade him.

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I really don't consider Bulis to be a 2-way forward. 2-way implies that they can play in both ends of the ice. Bulis just hasn't shown me that he can do that. He looks far more like a defensive winger to me than a 2-way winger. He's a lot like Sundstrom in that respect. They can both score lots in Europe too.

I'm not saying he hasn't got the potential to be a 2-way guy, but he just hasn't put up the numbers so far. Aside from the year he got all kinds of time on the top line with Koivu, he's never topped 30 points.

I guess its a matter of personal opinion, because he has shown me can play both ends of the ice.........I see him as a consistent 15+ goal guy, consistent 20+ assist guy while providing a great defensive instinct. He can also play the PK, and fill in on the top 6 quite nicely. Obvoiusly those numbers are +/- depending on the situation. Again, its matter of opinion.......and all should be well respected!

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