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11-15-2012, 10:45 PM
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Just misunderstood... right. left.
Memritv is an Israeli propaganda outlet. Everyone and their mother knows this.

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11-15-2012, 10:49 PM
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I think the caveat here must be that the whole ordeal has reached a point where the origins are largely inconsequential: Israeli violence spurs Palestinian violence, which in turn spurs more Israeli violence. I think had Israel acted differently early on, we might have a more peaceful region. But after awhile, the violence becomes an end itself, and it's something both sides must work on stopping.
You do realize one side had tanks, jet warplanes, nukes, open borders, the protection of the USA, and a history of invading everyone around it, right?

I find the arguments which attempt to show the "symmetry" of the violence to be intellectually dishonest.

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11-15-2012, 10:53 PM
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Memritv is an Israeli propaganda outlet. Everyone and their mother knows this.
Doesnt matter what the source. You're saying the translation is incorrect or this was never said at any time. Nice try. Try again. Kinda like minesweeper.



I bet your mother doesnt know it.

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11-15-2012, 10:57 PM
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11-15-2012, 11:02 PM
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11-15-2012, 11:03 PM
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You do realize one side had tanks, jet warplanes, and nukes, open borders, the protection of the USA, and a history of invading everyone around it, right?

I find the arguments which attempt to show the "symmetry" of the violence intellectually dishonest.
It's not about symmetry of ability, but rather symmetry of intent. Both sides view violence as a reasonable solution to any problem, and it just cycles from there.

Going back to symmetry, there is none from a capability point of view. I never tried to imply that, despite your insults and accusations. Israel clearly has a definite superiority in capabilities, and I don't know why you would think someone would try to gloss over that. The fact that they don't use a vast majority of those capabilities (including your dreaded nukes; using them would be incredibly self defeating, no?) in concentration to deal with the violence lends itself to a symmetry of intent.

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11-15-2012, 11:12 PM
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Nuclear-capable Middle East state escalates military conflict. And it's not Iran, it's Israel. Who could have guessed?

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11-15-2012, 11:15 PM
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Nuclear-capable Middle East state escalates military conflict. And it's not Iran, it's Israel. Who could have guessed?
Prove it.

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11-15-2012, 11:18 PM
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Prove it.
Israel's possession of nuclear weapons?

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Israel's possession of nuclear weapons?
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Yes.
An official announcement from the Israeli government? That doesn't exist, since it would interfere with their narrative of being threatened by nukes. But the existence of its stockpile is hardly a secret. Doesn't help that they refuse to sign the NNPT. This isn't a recent development either, they've had them since the mid-late 1960s.

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11-15-2012, 11:24 PM
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Israeli apologists are hilarious.

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11-15-2012, 11:25 PM
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Yes.
Israel has nukes. It's been pretty well known for a good while now. Nukes really don't have a place in this discussion anyway, but to act like they don't exist is wrong.

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11-15-2012, 11:33 PM
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Israel has nukes. It's been pretty well known for a good while now. Nukes really don't have a place in this discussion anyway, but to act like they don't exist is wrong.
And your proof is... speculation?

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11-15-2012, 11:37 PM
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People, the US government, as well as Canada, define Hamas as a terrorist organization.
These are the type of statements that really piss me off.

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And your proof is... speculation?
You're an idiot.

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11-15-2012, 11:39 PM
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And your proof is... speculation?
I am seriously hysterically laughing at how ironic, hypocritical and ****ing retarded you are being right now considering your post history with regards to Iran.

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11-15-2012, 11:40 PM
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And your proof is... speculation?
What do you want me to say? It was pointed out that there is no official proof from the Israelis, which is true. With that being said, it's largely accepted within the intelligence community that they in fact do have weapons. A demand for proof at this point is nothing more than belligerence.

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And your proof is... speculation?
Israeli's rejection of nukes exists about as much as North Korea's democracy: Officially affirmed, but anyone who reads the news once in a while knows what's up.

You can call it speculation if the only proof you'll accept is a declaration from the government. Is that correct? If so, there's not much point in this discussion.

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11-15-2012, 11:43 PM
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I am seriously hysterically laughing at how ironic, hypocritical and ****ing retarded you are being right now considering your post history.
Hypocritical ... HOW? Retarded. Really. Supossitories run out. Glad you're amused. So am I.

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11-15-2012, 11:46 PM
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Hypocritical ... HOW? Retarded. Really. Supossitories run out. Glad you're amused. So am I.
Because you have been railing against Iran for how many months because they 'have nuclear weapons' yet there is no evidence to suggest they are even close to having that capability.

But yet you are asking people to prove that Israel has nuclear weapons, and any proof brought up is 'speculation.'

You are a ****ing retard. Seriously. Your bias is painfully evident and you are exposed as nothing but a trolling partisan hack.

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11-15-2012, 11:52 PM
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Even though you are just trolling. If you are actually this legitimately dumb here is an exercise for you:

Google 'Mordechai Vanunu.' That will give you all the information you need to know that Israel has nuclear weapon capability.

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11-15-2012, 11:57 PM
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Because you have been railing against Iran for how many months because they 'have nuclear weapons' yet there is no evidence to suggest they are even close to having that capability.
Months. Really. How many is correct b/c you cannot identify if this was even suggested by me. You need to show me some of my posts. Supposition on you part.

Dont think Ive ever said Iran has or is nuclear capable. PROVE IT.

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But yet you are asking people to prove that Israel has nuclear weapons, and any proof brought up is 'speculation.'
Are you seriously trying to dessiminate my posts here?

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You are a ****ing retard. Seriously.
Any less of a retard like perhaps youself? Pot calling the kettle black?.

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Your bias is painfully evident and you are exposed as nothing but a trolling partisan hack.
This is a hack board isnt it... from both sides.

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11-15-2012, 11:58 PM
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Stop playing stupid. You know exactly what I am talking about.

I may be many things, but I am not stupid.

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