Lupul is coming off his 1 fluke season where he somewhat finally lived up to expectations and HF hates Hemsky so I expect Lupul to run away with this one even though his career thus far hasn't been even close to Hemsky's.
He's simply far better than Lupul. He put up better numbers than Lupul while he was facing the top defense pairings... While Lupul was always given easier matchups. He was sheltered in Anaheim, Philadelphia, and Edmonton and still couldn't clear 53 points until last season.
What do you mean you were worried? You wouldn't create a poll and try to influence people to vote for your guy because you're afraid he might lose, would you?
Haha in all seriousness, Lupul appears to be the better player at this point in time, regardless of past production, so I'll quite easily take him. Both very comparable guys though, good poll.
haha fair point, maybe worried was wrong wording. Should of said it concerns me that people only take it previous year point totals when voting without looking at other factors (pt totals is one of many factors) when voting. If someone votes after considering different factors I wouldnt care if one player was taken over the other, but if people only vote based on point totals then yeh its concerning
A healthy, on-his-game Ales Hemsky is one of my absolute favourite players in the league, but his injuries/injury history concerns me more than Lupul's. Though I'm not really up to speed on either of them regarding their health, in fairness.
I voted Hemsky neutral fan. He is one of the best playmaking wingers in the game when healthy, and I can't even imagine how good he would look playing 60-70 games with Phil Kessel in an uptempo system.
Three Oilers's forwards held their heads above water during the 2011-12 season. Two are obvious - Ales Hemsky and Taylor Hall. Hemsky has done this time and time again as an Oiler and is still criminally underrated by the fans and media.
On the flip side, even this past season, when Lupul had a career year, he was still in the negative when it comes to 2-way play.
Let's look at it this way: with Joffrey Lupul on the ice, the team scored 3.59 goals per 60 minutes, which was the highest on the Leafs last season. However, the Leafs also gave up a remarkably 3.77 goals against.
The Leafs need to win games 4-2 more often. Lupul is a primary reason why they lose 5-4.
Lupul's GF/60 On was 1.55 higher than his GF/60 Off, vs his GA/60 On being 1.46 higher than his GA/60 Off (net difference of +0.09). It's still not a huge difference so it isn't like he's a great two-way player, but I don't like how those statistics out of context suggest he had a net negative contribution to the team. Also take into account the fact that he Corsi Rel QoC was 0.512, vs his Corsi Rel QoT which was 0.040.
Ales Hemsky's GF/60 On was 0.40 lower than his GF/60 Off, and his GA/60 On was 0.37 lower than his GA/60 Off (net difference of -0.03). Hemsky's Corsi Rel QoC was 1.279 vs a Corsi Rel QoT of 1.500, so his quality of teammates was actually higher that his quality of competition (the opposite of Lupul). So if anybody's overall play could be considered negative out of the two, it is Hemsky (although it is close).