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Jack Johnson Vs. Dion Phaneuf

View Poll Results: Whom would you rather have on your team going forward?
Jack Johnson 54 31.03%
Dion Phaneuf 120 68.97%
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11-11-2012, 05:50 AM
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Jack Johnson Vs. Dion Phaneuf

Whom would you rather have?

Jack Johnson is two years younger and always seems to be on the verge of putting it all together.

Dion Phaneuf started his career like a gunshot but regressed sharply. That said, he seems to be picking himself back up.


Personally, I think I take Johnson as he's more dynamic and seems like a better teammate (though I know Phaneuf is captain). I think this season (if it ever happens) will tell the story, but I'm picking Johnson more on what I think he'll still become than what he is.

Clearly if we go based on career thus far it's Phaneuf in a landslide.

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11-11-2012, 05:56 AM
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Jack Johnson is not good and needs to stop being considered good.

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Kings w/ Johnson: 14 / 35 - 28.6%
Kings w/o Johnson: 36 / 45 - 44.4%

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11-11-2012, 06:38 AM
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Phaneuf hands down. Only a general manager like Howson could've traded something more valuable than a 2nd round pick for Jack Johnson. One dimensional player with a terrible contract.

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11-11-2012, 07:26 AM
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Clearly a quality article from an impartial author -

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I have talked many times of my hatred for Jack Johnson. Many, many times

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11-11-2012, 07:32 AM
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Phaneuf by a large margin.

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Phaneuf, AINEC.

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11-11-2012, 09:47 AM
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That might have more to do with adding Carter than losing Johnson, though.

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11-11-2012, 10:15 AM
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Good poll. I love JMFJ, but I got to go with Phaneuf.

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11-11-2012, 10:32 AM
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Phaneuf is better offensively, defensively and is more physical. There is no argument for Johnson, he's just a poor man's Phaneuf.

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Lol at Johnson having 10 votes. Phaneuf is better at every single part of hockey.

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Clearly a quality article from an impartial author -
Wouldn't you hate an overhyped POS that your team might be convinced to trade valuable things for?

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That might have more to do with adding Carter than losing Johnson, though.
The with/without numbers are from the San Jose series the year before the trade. When JJ was on the ice the Kings were recording less than 1/3 of all scoring chances, whereas without him that climbs to above 4/9, a realm where a goalie could steal enough games to win the series.

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Voted for Dion Phaneuf because I say he has the much better overall game.

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Phaneuf AINEC. Johnson is a terrible player.

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Phaneuf AINEC.

Better offensively and infinitely better defensively.

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Phaneuf is better offensively, defensively and is more physical. There is no argument for Johnson, he's just a poor man's Phaneuf.
This is the best way of putting it. Great analysis.

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Phaneuf in a very, very easy decision. I've said it many times that Jack Johnson has some of the worst hockey sense in the NHL, his tremendous physical talent doesn't make up for the fact he doesn't know how to play the game very well.

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I wouldn't take either for free. Both have terrible contracts.

But i voted Phaneuf.

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11-11-2012, 12:59 PM
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Phaneuf is the easy choice, but Johnson is so underated around here.. hes not that bad.

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Phaneuf is the easy choice, but Johnson is so underated around here.. hes not that bad.
Yes, he really is.

I don't like Phaneuf much, but it's easily Phaneuf. He's a legit top-2 defenseman, whereas J. Johnson should be lucky to be considered a 2nd pairing guy.

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Makes me laugh when looking back on how good Jack Johnson gets in NHL video games from 2006-2010. God that guy was Bobby Orr

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Out of curiosity, can you post Columbus' record with an without JJ?

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Phaneuf ainec

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Phaneuf AINEC.

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The hate on Jack Johnson here is way overblown.

He's right now a #2 defenseman and was playing like a top-pairing guy in Columbus. Don't care about what he did before he got here.

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The hate on Jack Johnson here is way overblown.

He's right now a #2 defenseman and was playing like a top-pairing guy in Columbus. Don't care about what he did before he got here.
You wouldn't say that if he were on any other team.

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