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Better Career So Far: Hossa vs Kovalchuk

View Poll Results: Who had the better career so far?
Marian Hossa 48 69.57%
Ilya Kovalchuk 21 30.43%
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11-16-2012, 04:47 PM
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Better Career So Far: Hossa vs Kovalchuk

Who has had the better career so far? Marian Hossa or Ilya Kovalchuk?

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This is a tricky question. Better career is probably Hossa (by virtue of having 100+ more points, 2 more All-Star appearances and a Cup), but Kovalchuk is 4 years younger and has played 200 less games. But if you're asking who has been the better player throughout their career so far, I'd probably pick Kovalchuk. I don't want to vote because I'm not sure what exactly you're asking. I hope I'm making sense here.

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Weird question, obvious choice is Hossa since he accomplished more but hes older.

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This is a tricky question. Better career is probably Hossa (by virtue of having 100+ more points, 2 more All-Star appearances and a Cup), but Kovalchuk is 4 years younger and has played 200 less games. But if you're asking who has been the better player throughout their career so far, I'd probably pick Kovalchuk. I don't want to vote because I'm not sure what exactly you're asking. I hope I'm making sense here.
Who do you think is more accomplished? Kovalchuk is obviously the better goalscorer/offensive player, but do you think Hossa's defense and ultimately cup put him over the top? The 2 all-star appearances and 200 less games I was hoping people weighted less because it's not fair to hold that against kovy right now due to age/seasons played.

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Hossa but it's hardly insurmountable for Ilya, particularly as his two-way game has developed.

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Certainly not Don Waddel

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Weird question, obvious choice is Hossa since he accomplished more but hes older.
Pretty much. Hossa right now, but obviously still time for Kovalchuk to catch up.

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Didn't read the question, so voted Kovy.

Hossa with the better career, Kovy better player atm, imo.

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Hossa. He's achieved more.

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Thisclose but Hossa.

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Guess we have to count the SC and 3 cupfinals even though he just rode teams there, but I guess career goes to Hossa atm.

Kovy will go down as a better player though.

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Kovalchuk is playing now almost as good as Hossa in his prime. Kovalchuk is the better goal scorer, but peak vs peak it's certainly close. Can't go wrong with either. I'm voting Hossa because he's one of my favourite players.

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Hossa obviously, older and accomplished more.

Kovalchuk will pass him eventually, though.


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I imagine most people will say Hossa with the better career (since he has a cup) but that Kovalchuk has been the better player. I agree with the first part, I disagree with the second. Kovalchuk might bring a bit more offense (Kovalchuk career 1.01ppg, 0.52gpg or 83 points and 43 goals over 82 game season vs Hossa .92ppg, 0.43gpg or 76 points and 35 goals over 82 game season) but Hossa is just a beast defensively which has made him a better overall player.

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Tough to say. Hossa is a great two-way forward, I want Kovalchuk to turn into a player like him in a couple years. Hossa has more hardware, but Kovalchuk will probably be remembered as the better player in the future.

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this poll made me wanna look up vids of Hossa and I stumbled upon this: and the move at 2:00 (he does it twice) is just ridiculous. I wish he would try that in the NHL!

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Didn't read the question, so voted Kovy.

Hossa with the better career, Kovy better player atm, imo.
Agreed 100%

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Guess we have to count the SC and 3 cupfinals even though he just rode teams there, but I guess career goes to Hossa atm.

Kovy will go down as a better player though.
Scores 40g for DET, but yes rode that team there. 51 points in 57 gp for CHI, but just along for the ride. 10 points in 12 gp, plus a monster playoffs for PIT, but he was prolly just chilling in the back seat

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Hossa now

Definitely Kovalchuck future. Even if he doesn't win a cup, his individual accomplishments will probably surpass that of Hossa (who I also love as a player).

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Scores 40g for DET, but yes rode that team there. 51 points in 57 gp for CHI, but just along for the ride. 10 points in 12 gp, plus a monster playoffs for PIT, but he was prolly just chilling in the back seat
Datsyuk, Lidstrom, Zetterberg?
Toews, Kane, Keith?
Crosby, Malkin?

Hossa is a phenomenal player, one of my favourites for sure and he doesn't get the love he should... But he wasn't the guy driving the bus. He wasn't a back seat passenger but each of those teams were fantastic teams with or without him..

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Datsyuk, Lidstrom, Zetterberg?
Toews, Kane, Keith?
Crosby, Malkin?

Hossa is a phenomenal player, one of my favourites for sure and he doesn't get the love he should... But he wasn't the guy driving the bus. He wasn't a back seat passenger but each of those teams were fantastic teams with or without him..
Just "for the record":

07/08 Penguins Playoffs: Hossa led the Pens in goals(1 shy off the points lead by Crosby, but had 6 more goals) and had better corsi numbers than every other pens forward/d-man on the team.

Arguably the best skater in the playoffs for the pens that year (Fleury was on fire that playoffs). Arguably "driving the bus" this year.

08/09 Red Wings Playoffs: Not a ton to debate on Hossa this year. He was by all means somewhere between the 4th and 7th most important player on the team that playoffs.

09/10 Blackhawks Playoffs: Hossa wasn't a top 4/5 impact player on the team. So no debate here either.

Summarized, on 1 deep playoff run Hossa was the main skater driving the bus for the pens, and that says something when you are on a team with Malkin/Crosby. Hossa is one of if not the best checking/defensive/2-way winger in the nhl when 100%(or was at least) and he's always been capable of 35-45goal/80-100pts seasons in the past, and obviously was capable of being the best skater on a stanley cup run finals playoff team. I agree, no 1 player makes a team, no question about that but it goes for everyone. A healthy malkin would still miss the playoffs with the Blue Jackets last year, but Hossa is one hell of a player and nothing short of an elite 2-way 1st line winger in his prime. Point is, acknowledge great players for themselves, players of Kovy/Hossa's caliber can be the top guy on deep playoff run teams, they won't always be but Hossa has proven he can do it.

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