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11-13-2011, 07:30 PM
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Is Alfie a HOF'er?

Just as the title says, is Alfie a HOF'er?

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11-13-2011, 07:49 PM
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In my ideal Hall, no. In this Hall, I'd say chances are 50/50 at the moment.

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11-13-2011, 08:01 PM
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In the actual HHOF I think he has a good shot. Because I just read the other thread I now think he's very similar to Joe Mullen, but think Alfie's better vs. his peers. If only we needed to promote hockey in Sweden...

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50/50 in my opinion

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I would not put him there. But with the Hall of Fame being the way it is he has a shot but it's a long shot IMO.

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11-13-2011, 09:28 PM
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He's definitely a borderline case. A very good player two-way player for a long time who was one of the best players in the game for a brief period. He doesn't really have the hardware or career numbers that seem to be the benchmarks, but the fact that he's been the captain and face of the franchise for a Canadian team for so long while also being a class act might work in his favour. My gut says no though. He's better than some guys in the Hall, but still on the low end.

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depends on how high or low you set the bar.

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His chances would be far better with a Cup.

His career is pretty consistent.

High career numbers, good playoff numbers, 5 All-Stars.

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Definitely.

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I would say no. There are a lot of players with equal or more deserving resumes that are not in. If he does get in it wont be for a while. Only thing giving him a chance is that hes European (3rd All-Time in Sweden scoring) and has a Olympic gold.


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tough one. i agree, similar to mullen. but also similar to propp, who is not in. i guess it kind of depends which one voters think he is closer to.

among borderline guys of that generation though, alfie should have to wait behind elias.

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He should get in as a low end HOFer. 3 time top 10 scorer, 1000 points in an era where that means a LOT, an all-star, a complete player, gets a bonus for doing so much on one team, and since his rookie season the only guys that have outscored him are Jagr and Selanne. With guys like Mullen and Ciccarelli in there, it would be hard to keep him out.

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When you think of the Ottawa Senators from about 1997-2011 he is the player you think about. I think this makes him more than worthy as much as I can't stand the guy

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If he buys a ticket.

Ah, who am I kidding? The bar is so low, Harold Snepsts might get in.

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I don't know for sure if he'll get in, but if it was my choice it would be yes. One of the better players for almost his entire career and one of the best for close to 10 years.

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tough one. i agree, similar to mullen. but also similar to propp, who is not in. i guess it kind of depends which one voters think he is closer to.

among borderline guys of that generation though, alfie should have to wait behind elias.
I would agree with the 1st part, not so sure about the 2nd but Elias is still playing.

The biggest problem is going to be the logjam of better players if they only keep inducting 4 players per year or less.

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When you think of the Ottawa Senators from about 1997-2011 he is the player you think about. I think this makes him more than worthy
Daniel being synoymous with a young franchise that does not have a rich history makes him "more than worthy" of enshrinement? In that case, Patrick Marleau needs to get to work on his HHOF induction speech.

The ONLY thing working in Alfredsson's favor is that he has produced at nearly a PPG (0.96 PPG) during an incredibly stifling stretch ('95-present).

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Daniel being synoymous with a young franchise that does not have a rich history makes him "more than worthy" of enshrinement? In that case, Patrick Marleau needs to get to work on his HHOF induction speech.

The ONLY thing working in Alfredsson's favor is that he has produced at nearly a PPG (0.96 PPG) during an incredibly stifling stretch ('95-present).
Alfredsson has been a more profilific fac e of a franshise than Marleau though. Alfredsson in synonymous with the senators franshise while Marleau is behind Nolan for example.

Alfredssons career is very similiar to that of Sittler. Now it might be the lower tier but its still the HHoF.

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He should and will be inducted.

Comparable career to Sittler and Perreault.

1000 points playing mostly in a low-scoring era, top-10 in scoring on several occasions, supurb all-around player, excellent playoff performer, massive international resume. Face of a franchise for 15 years, most important player in the history of that franchise.

Someone above compared him to Mullen and Propp - he was ages better than both of those players.

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As an aside - 1000 points for one team is a feat that has led to pretty much automatic HHOF induction ... I think every single player to manage this has been selected.

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tough one. i agree, similar to mullen. but also similar to propp, who is not in. i guess it kind of depends which one voters think he is closer to.

among borderline guys of that generation though, alfie should have to wait behind elias.
I don't see the comparable to Propp. The numbers Alfredsson put up were better, considering the respective eras. Alfredsson has also been the better all-around player, more of the face of a franchise, etc.

Not sure I agree with him being behind Elias either, for that matter. I think I disagree with that, too.


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I have a feeling he will get in - down the road. He's pretty comparable to Gilmour, IMO.

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He should and will be inducted.

Comparable career to Sittler and Perreault.

1000 points playing mostly in a low-scoring era, top-10 in scoring on several occasions, supurb all-around player, excellent playoff performer, massive international resume. Face of a franchise for 15 years, most important player in the history of that franchise.

Someone above compared him to Mullen and Propp - he was ages better than both of those players.
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As an aside - 1000 points for one team is a feat that has led to pretty much automatic HHOF induction ... I think every single player to manage this has been selected.
Well summed up. He's also a hard worker and proven leader, currently the longest serving captain in the NHL. Strong Conn Smythe candidate (14 goals, 22 points, both leading the playoffs) had the Senators won the '07 Stanley Cup.

I recently read an interview with Mika Zibanejad where he was amazed that the 38-year old Alfredsson was still the hardest working chap on the entire team.

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He's also one of the best two-way wingers in the league.

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For me he is typical borderline case. I wouldn't scream if he gets in, I wouldnt mind if stays out.

For me it's more interesting hypothetical question - if Alfie gets in, I want to see arguments against Hossa's and Elias' induction, other than "captain of canadian team".

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He did not start as an HOF early on, but he have aged better than good wine, was the face of the sens and a stars of the post-lockout.

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