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11-16-2012, 01:40 PM
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Luongo or Schneider (I'm assuming NJ wants Schneider)
Kesler
Kassian

for

Kovalchuk
Zajac (going to UFA)


Win the cup.

P.S. Value is a bit off, but at least I added something of value on both sides. Obviously NJ will soon be in need of a starting goalie, and looking to have a younger top 6 core to grow with Henrique, etc.


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Luongo/Schneider
Kesler
Kassian

for

Kovalchuk
Zajac (going to UFA)


Win the cup.

P.S. Value is a bit off, but at least I added something of value on both sides. Obviously NJ will soon be in need of a starting goalie, and looking to have a younger top 6 core to grow with Henrique, etc.
Seems kinda like an odd move

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11-16-2012, 01:45 PM
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Devils easily decline

Right.
Kesler >> Zajac.
Schneider + Kassian = Kovalchuk?

Value is definitely close.

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11-16-2012, 01:46 PM
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Right.
Kesler >> Zajac.
Schneider + Kassian = Kovalchuk?

Value is definitely close.
I didnt see the goalies in the proposal. calm down

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11-16-2012, 01:47 PM
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I didnt see the goalies in the proposal. calm down

Lol, I just was trying to see your logic for "easily declining"
But yeah, can't see either team doing this. Don't think MG trades Schneider either.

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11-16-2012, 01:49 PM
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Not even close.

Kovy will not be traded at all

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Right.
Kesler >> Zajac.
Schneider + Kassian = Kovalchuk?

Value is definitely close.


You forgot the sarcasm smiley

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Lol, I just was trying to see your logic for "easily declining"
But yeah, can't see either team doing this. Don't think MG trades Schneider either.
I seem him trading Schneider if it means that we have two legimate and scary scoring lines and still have a starting goalie in Luongo. NJ fans would hate trading Kovalchuk but I see management doing it if they are worried about the term.

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11-16-2012, 01:56 PM
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Luongo or Schneider (I'm assuming NJ wants Schneider)
Kesler
Kassian

for

Kovalchuk
Zajac (going to UFA)


Win the cup.

P.S. Value is a bit off, but at least I added something of value on both sides. Obviously NJ will soon be in need of a starting goalie, and looking to have a younger top 6 core to grow with Henrique, etc.
not even close. that's a big no from jersey

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Kovalchuk returned Bergfors, Oduya, Cormier and a 1st for Atlanta.

Even with Bergfors hype at the time, Schneider and Kassian is a similar package (I don't mind throwing in a good pick as well if it's "close" for NJ fans)

Plus, Zajac is an impending UFA and there have been reports (albeit not confirmed) that he may not sign. His value is probably lower than it should be.

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11-16-2012, 02:04 PM
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not even close. that's a big no from jersey
Yeah seriously, NJ gets ripped off big time.

Replacing Zajac (impending UFA) with Kesler (3 more years @ 5 million).
Schneider (3 years @ 4 million) and Kassian on his entry level contract for Kovalchuk.

When you take into account the contracts, this deal seems to be in NJ's favour.

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11-16-2012, 02:06 PM
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Again, no arguement needed

This is not even close for NJ. If you want Kovy, I would begin listening with Edler + Schneider . Too much ??? Too bad. We aren't trading an arguably Top 5 Forward in the league for anything less. You have to massively overpay to get Kovy from NJ

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11-16-2012, 02:08 PM
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I get the feeling Devil fans don't like this.

That's ok, most Canuck fans wouldn't do it either, including me.

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Again, no arguement needed

This is not even close for NJ. If you want Kovy, I would begin listening with Edler + Schneider . Too much ??? Too bad. We aren't trading an arguably Top 5 Forward in the league for anything less
Edler is actually probably worth less to us than Kesler is, especially given their current contract situations.

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11-16-2012, 02:10 PM
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Lololololol no way from the Devils.

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11-16-2012, 02:16 PM
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losing Kesler for a winger kinda washes out. We are stuck at the point where we can either stack 1 unstoppable line, or have 2 scoring lines with 3 top talents surrounded by meh. Wouldn't do anything that involved Schnieds, future goalie of planet earth right thur.

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11-16-2012, 02:18 PM
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Edler is actually probably worth less to us than Kesler is, especially given their current contract situations.
Agreed.

Edler
Schneider
Raymond
Schroeder

for

Kovalchuk
Contract spots/roster filler/cap considerations

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11-16-2012, 02:19 PM
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Again, no arguement needed

This is not even close for NJ. If you want Kovy, I would begin listening with Edler + Schneider . Too much ??? Too bad. We aren't trading an arguably Top 5 Forward in the league for anything less. You have to massively overpay to get Kovy from NJ
Yeh..yeah?

I'd rather keep Kesler honestly. If we keep our top prospect, and you guys keep Zajac to resign or trade, as you see fit, all the better.

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Close but NJ declines.

To VAN:
Kovalchuk
Zajac

To NJ:
Schneider
Kesler
Kassian
Schroeder

Closer?

This happens only if Unlce Lou decides its time to rebuild in NJ, behind Henrique, Larsson, Schneider etc..

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11-16-2012, 02:24 PM
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Yeah seriously, NJ gets ripped off big time.

Replacing Zajac (impending UFA) with Kesler (3 more years @ 5 million).
Schneider (3 years @ 4 million) and Kassian on his entry level contract for Kovalchuk.

When you take into account the contracts, this deal seems to be in NJ's favour.
NJ don't need to lower their cap.

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losing Kesler for a winger kinda washes out. We are stuck at the point where we can either stack 1 unstoppable line, or have 2 scoring lines with 3 top talents surrounded by meh. Wouldn't do anything that involved Schnieds, future goalie of planet earth right thur.
What about Zajac?

Sedin Sedin Burrows
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Right.
Kesler >> Zajac.
Schneider + Kassian = Kovalchuk?

Value is definitely close.

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Agreed.

Edler
Schneider
Raymond
Schroeder

for

Kovalchuk
Contract spots/roster filler/cap considerations
In sending Schroeder, I think we should return something better then just what Lou can cut loose. Maybe not a super valuable piece, but...something.

Do the Devils even want Raymond though?

If we added a pick could we talk Kovalchuk+Volchenkov (or another D)?

All this and more, on the next page of this thread!

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11-16-2012, 02:28 PM
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Right.
Kesler >> Zajac.
Schneider + Kassian = Kovalchuk?

Value is definitely close.
This hasn't received satisfactory levels of ridicule yet

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Kovalchuk returned Bergfors, Oduya, Cormier and a 1st for Atlanta.

Even with Bergfors hype at the time, Schneider and Kassian is a similar package (I don't mind throwing in a good pick as well if it's "close" for NJ fans)

Plus, Zajac is an impending UFA and there have been reports (albeit not confirmed) that he may not sign. His value is probably lower than it should be.
what Kovalchuk got in return has no baering on this trade whatsoever. he is a completely different player now than he was before that trade.

plus Lou is not Don Waddell

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This hasn't received satisfactory levels of ridicule yet
cause it's a joke.

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