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02-28-2013, 05:50 PM
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Calgary: Offer sheet for O'Reilly

Bob McKenzie
BOOM! "@DarrenDreger: Breaking: Told the Flames have filed an offer sheet on Ryan O'Reilly. #TSN"

Pierre LeBrun
As per @DarrenDreger, Flames sign Ryan O'Reilly to offer sheet, two years, $10 M. Key is Year 2 at $6.5 M; that's big QO in two years


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Absolutely brutal

Take the picks and never look back. Colorado likely could have done a little better via trade, but their backs are against the wall now ...

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CO is asking for the moon. Good for Feaster,

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Colorado has to take the picks. They won't be able to afford the qualifying offer when this contract expires.
Also, should help end the Iggy talk. He'll now have the center he needs.

Well played by Flames ,IMO.

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Good for the Flames. A young, solid center is one thing they need... Avs get ****ing screwed.

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A couple of questions for those who may know:

Can O'Reilly refuse to sign the Flames' offer sheet?

Can other teams still file an offer sheet on O'Reilly and compete with the Flames' offer?

Thanks in advance.

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A couple of questions for those who may know:

Can O'Reilly refuse to sign the Flames' offer sheet?

Can other teams still file an offer sheet on O'Reilly and compete with the Flames' offer?

Thanks in advance.
It's been reported as 'filed'
Filed means signed.
So if report is accurate its done.

No to competing teams.

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Colorado has to take the picks. They won't be able to afford the qualifying offer when this contract expires.
Also, should help end the Iggy talk. He'll now have the center he needs.

Well played by Flames ,IMO.
I agree. That's a very good decision from Calgary. I like that move... I wish we will see more and more offer sheet. If anything, these offer sheets can help for the overall competitivity of the league.

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I believe it can be assumed that whenever an offer sheet is announced it means that the player has signed it, otherwise there is nothing to report as nothing actually happened other than a team making an offer.

My question is whether or not Colorado can still trade him during their 7 day window to match the offer. Could they trade him for a better return and then the team they trade him to would just match and he'd be signed to them now or what?

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It's been reported as 'filed'
Filed means signed.
So if report is accurate its done.

No to competing teams.
Aaaahhhhh, I see. Thanks. Well, looks like we'll have to wait until he's a UFA

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Colorado has to take the picks. They won't be able to afford the qualifying offer when this contract expires.
Also, should help end the Iggy talk. He'll now have the center he needs.

Well played by Flames ,IMO.
That's precisely what I was thinking.

I think we're headed for Fedotenko country, which would be fine as far as it goes. Maybe another mid-level guy with some grit n' touch, too. I wouldn't mind Brière, but I don't see PH giving him away without extracting someone of real value. I do like DB's cap hit, though I'm no 'ologist.

And then there's 40 year old Alfie. I know this isn't the thread for it, but how does this possibility strike the faithful?

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It would be interesting to see him go to a team within the division.

There are no real rivalries in the NHL compared to what used to exist.

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don't think the avs will match based on structure of deal. if they match, can't deal him for a year and ROR will make 6.5 the 2nd year. flames will lose their 1st and 3rd picks.

the smaht thing for Calgary to do would be to flip Iggy/Kipper and try to recoup those picks and get this rebuild started. so, will Chia make a play for that in a week when we find out whether the avs match or not?

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Wow. Power move by the Flames.

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haha way to go Feaster

if he isn't gonna be in Boston, at least he is staying out West, perfectly fine by me... sucks bad for the Avs though, unless Calgary continues its struggles even with ROR and they get a high pick

I wish teams could trade a player after he has signed an offer sheet, but I dont think they can, right?

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Good, now people will stop making ridiculous trade proposals for him.

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Here is some info about offer sheets yielded by my Google search.


Offer Sheets and Restricted Free Agents

The Offer Sheet is a Contract
An offer sheet is a contract negotiated between an NHL team and a restricted free agent on another team.

The offer sheet includes all the terms of a standard player contract, including length, salary, bonuses, etc.

A player who has signed a qualifying offer or is going to salary arbitration with his original team cannot sign an offer sheet.

Accept or Decline
When an offer sheet is signed, the player’s current (original) team is notified. That team can keep the player under the terms of the offer sheet, or decline and let the player join the new team under those terms.

The original team has seven days to make its decision.

No Turning Back
Once an offer sheet has been signed by a player, the original team cannot negotiate a new contract under different terms or trade the player’s rights. It’s only options are to accept or decline the offer sheet.

The No-Trade Clause
If the original team chooses to accept, or “match” the offer sheet, the player cannot be traded for one year.

Compensation
If the original team declines the offer sheet and loses the player, it receives draft picks from the player’s new team as compensation.

Compensation for losing a restricted free agent is on a sliding scale, depending on how much the new contract is worth. The exact numbers change every year.

The most a team can lose for signing an RFA is four first-round draft picks.

For 2011, a team signing a restricted free agent to a contract worth more than $7,835,219 per season loses four first-round picks to the player's old team.

For a contract worth $6,268,176 or more per year, the acquiring team gives up two first-round picks, one second rounder, and one third.

There are another four levels of compensation, going down to a contract worth up to $1,034,249 per year, for which there is no compensation.

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A bad team offering this means Colorado can think about not matching. If it was a good team you do it as a no brainer.

The qualifying offer being a little bit high shouldn't sway the deal. Colorado can trade him next year.

Flames get a better play than they would with their pic its a good move by them.

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That's precisely what I was thinking.

I think we're headed for Fedotenko country, which would be fine as far as it goes. Maybe another mid-level guy with some grit n' touch, too. I wouldn't mind Brière, but I don't see PH giving him away without extracting someone of real value. I do like DB's cap hit, though I'm no 'ologist.

And then there's 40 year old Alfie. I know this isn't the thread for it, but how does this possibility strike the faithful?
For the right price I'd rent Alfie. Want no part of Briere. That 6.5 hit for two years is brutal.

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A bad team offering this means Colorado can think about not matching. If it was a good team you do it as a no brainer.

The qualifying offer being a little bit high shouldn't sway the deal. Colorado can trade him next year.

Flames get a better play than they would with their pic its a good move by them.
re-alignment also means that as long as it isn't within the division, it is the same as trading to any team outside of it since you only face them 2x a year in the reg season. colorado and calgary will not be in the same division next year.

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I'm wondering if we had thoughts of getting him for real or simply speculation? Now Calgary will likely keep Iginla taking him off our wish list as well. With reports of our interest in Briere, where do we look now assuming three players of interest are now unavailable?

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What does everyone think...

Could/Should the Bruins have done this deal?

2 yrs 10 mil. (5 mil cap hit), 1st and 3rd round pick.

Are the Bruins philosophically against offer-sheets?

Thoughts?

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What does everyone think...

Could/Should the Bruins have done this deal?

2 yrs 10 mil. (5 mil cap hit), 1st and 3rd round pick.

Are the Bruins philosophically against offer-sheets?

Thoughts?
No. Not worth it for the cap hit.

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Calgary should have tried to rebuild a long time ago- they're just too desperate and keep shooting themselves in the foot over and over.

ROR is a great young player, but that offer will cripple the team.

They're already on the hook for 5.2Mil for Wideman and 6.7 to Bouwmeester and 6 mil for Cammalleri. That'll be something like 24 mil in 4 guys (none of whom are Iginla) when the cap is 60 mill.


I don't get it.

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What does everyone think...

Could/Should the Bruins have done this deal?

2 yrs 10 mil. (5 mil cap hit), 1st and 3rd round pick.

Are the Bruins philosophically against offer-sheets?

Thoughts?
with rask not signed, no.... if he was signed maybe.
what if rask makes it though the season with no extension... colorado makes a ridiculous offer sheet on him and then what?

im okay with standing pat... not to mention we need to sign bergy a year later.

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