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08-11-2012, 01:01 PM
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Patrick Sieloff

Flames 2nd round pick this year, I'm a bit curious about him seeing as how no one is talking about him. His profile says he is a tough stay at home d with offensive upside, a big guy and a leader. For USHL watchers what do you think is his ceiling?

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08-11-2012, 03:25 PM
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This was definitely one of my fav picks for the Flames.

Upside: 3/4 Physical stay at home D.
Comparables: Sarich+. I think he will be more physical, and better skater, but very similar style.

I don't think the offence will ever be there.... but his physical presence and leadership qualities make this a very solid pick.

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pretty basic player, that can skate and play both sides of the puck...but likely wont excel at either side...just a solid soldier that will give you 6-8 solid pro years imo...

he lacks spice in his salsa....

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I'm a big fan of Sieloff's. He plays the game the right way. Hard nosed kid. He reminds me a lot of Tim Gleason.

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can anyone compare him and Kulak for me? both seem similar and good picks

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pretty basic player, that can skate and play both sides of the puck...but likely wont excel at either side...just a solid soldier that will give you 6-8 solid pro years imo...

he lacks spice in his salsa....
So Jordan Leopold v20 then?

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So Jordan Leopold v20 then?
Leopold has much more offensive talent than Sieloff and Sieloff is much tougher. Pat is a physical, hard nosed agitator that will put his face in front of a shot to win. Leopold's a good defenseman whose career was unfortunately sidetracked by injury but those things he's not.

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I have kind of thought of Sieloff as a similar player to Michael Sauer...

Tough, hard nosed kid that is capable of moving the puck

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can anyone compare him and Kulak for me? both seem similar and good picks

Complete opposite playing styles...

Kulak - Smooth skater, high hockey IQ, more offensive, not that physical.

Sieloff - Decent skater, leadership qualities, VERY physical, minimum offence.

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Kulak - Marc-Edouard Vlasic / Duncan Keith
Sieloff - Sarich +

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Ive heard the Gleason comparison a lot, I personally think he plays like Anton Volchenkov

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Ive heard the Gleason comparison a lot, I personally think he plays like Anton Volchenkov
I think this is a solid NHL comparable.

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Sieloff = Emelin

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Sieloff = Emelin
Not a terrible comparison. Emelin is way more wreckless though. Sieloff is pretty sound positionally, and good leadership qualities.

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What's everyone think of the hit Sieloff throws at 1:30? I don't personally see how it's even a penalty, never mind five and a game.

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The kid hits like a semi-truck.

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Beautiful hit. That's on the Kitchener player that made that pass to Bailey.

I'm a huge fan of Sieloff's and I like that he's getting PP time with Windsor. He'll never provide much offense at the NHL level but the increased offensive role is good for his development.

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We will be seeing more and more of these hits... Such an aggressive/explosive player. Love this pick up.

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Scored his first goal today... still a period left.

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What's everyone think of the hit Sieloff throws at 1:30? I don't personally see how it's even a penalty, never mind five and a game.
The OHL is very sensitive when it comes to hits to the head. Not saying Sieloff targeted his head on that play, but there was contract, and he was kicked out.. that's just the way it is in the OHL. That wasn't a dirty hit, but the OHL is trying to get head contact out of the league.

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The thing about the Sieloff hit was he referees didn't even make the call. It was the linesman who brought it up. This is twice now that Sieloff has made a legit hit, been given 5/GM, and not been suspended. Makes me believe the OHL, despite their "you blinked the wrong way, you're gone", is actually wrong.

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The thing about the Sieloff hit was he referees didn't even make the call. It was the linesman who brought it up. This is twice now that Sieloff has made a legit hit, been given 5/GM, and not been suspended. Makes me believe the OHL, despite their "you blinked the wrong way, you're gone", is actually wrong.
The linemen can and should make calls that target the head!
Not saying he targeted the head here though, IMHO it was a clean hit!

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He looks like a more mobile Sarich, he has a very Regehr-esqe frame though.

If he ever develops his offensive game he could be quite a useful player.

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10-01-2012, 12:35 PM
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Really like Sieloff. He's gaining more confidence with the puck and he's making good defensive plays. Honestly I thought he a massive hitter and that's it, but he's got a good all around game. I would like to see him play with more energy though, he goes invisible at times. Although it is very early to say that.

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Really like Sieloff. He's gaining more confidence with the puck and he's making good defensive plays. Honestly I thought he a massive hitter and that's it, but he's got a good all around game. I would like to see him play with more energy though, he goes invisible at times. Although it is very early to say that.
He isn't an offensive player though. So him being invisible is sort of a good thing at times.

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He isn't an offensive player though. So him being invisible is sort of a good thing at times.
I know what you're talking about, but that's not what I'm referring to. He goes invisible in the sense that he's not involving himself in the play at all (not in the sense that he's been playing a strong quiet game). Regardless, ever since he's thrown that monster hit he's become much more confident.

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