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01-28-2013, 01:16 AM
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tedenby looked good the first 2 game but lately he looks weak on the puck

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01-28-2013, 01:24 AM
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It will be comical if Teddy plays against Boston he will get absolutely destroyed.

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01-28-2013, 01:27 AM
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...poor Josefson is going to have to center Janssen & Barch, isn't he?

Might as well just dress 7d, then.

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01-28-2013, 01:31 AM
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It will be comical if Teddy plays against Boston he will get absolutely destroyed.
Unfortunately he probably will play against Boston. I expect him to stick around until Henrique is back, and then he's gone for good. Though it wouldn't be shocking if Pete scratched him for Tuesday, and dressed 7 D. Getting Larsson into the lineup that way.

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01-28-2013, 01:45 AM
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I'm confused. Are we mad that he hasn't scored a goal in like 20 total minutes of ice time yet, while being moved all up and down the lineup?

Tedenby has not looked great, but it's boggling my mind how Deboer expects his top line to click playing every game with a new line mate. Be it Zubrus, Tedenby, or Matteau, none of them have actually spent enough time up top to be sure whether they're playing well or not. The Parise - Henrique - Kovalchuk line took like 5 games before it started to click. Fans were calling for Deboer's head before that. Tedenby's gotten like 16 minutes of ice time spread out over 3 games on the top two lines, and he hasn't produced any worse than Zubrus or Matteau in those spots.

Basically, if Deboer doesn't trust him, he needs to go. It's embarrassing to watch him start every game on a top 6 line and then spend the third period on the bench. Even Lemaire trusted this kid on the ice late in games. Send him to a team where he's gonna play and get him the hell out of here because he's a waste of ice time playing 4th line minutes.

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01-28-2013, 01:48 AM
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Unfortunately he probably will play against Boston. I expect him to stick around until Henrique is back, and then he's gone for good. Though it wouldn't be shocking if Pete scratched him for Tuesday, and dressed 7 D. Getting Larsson into the lineup that way.
Oh I figure he will i should have clarified he will get killed by the big bad Bruins hope he doesn't try to beat Chara along the boards haha

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01-28-2013, 05:27 AM
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Even Matteau has looked better then Tedenby in his limited time. Tedenby is weak in the corners. Gets knocked off the puck easily and hasn't created much in the way of Any offense. Not to say the kid isn't trying. But he just looks over matched out on the ice. Wouldn't be at all shocked if was traded, but doubt it will happen until after the season is over.

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01-28-2013, 06:12 AM
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It will be comical if Teddy plays against Boston he will get absolutely destroyed.


Loved how he got right back up though.

EDIT: You know you need to add 10+ pounds when even someone like Krejci hits you that hard.



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Put him in a system that plays less physical along the boards or plays real tight. Like Vancouver or Phoenix and I think he'll succeed.
I really want him to hit his potential... I just don't think he'll be able to do it here.
I absolutely agree.

For the record, this doesn`t change the fact some people wrote him off too soon (some still refuse to lol).

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01-28-2013, 06:58 AM
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Tedenby is not NHL material, period. I was sitting two rows from him getting level by Bouillon and he got absolutely destroyed.

Having him in our 1st line is a complete waste and it's dragging our stars for playing "shorthanded". Package his ass with Volchenkov somewhere for a forward.... Two birds with one stone.

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01-28-2013, 07:30 AM
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Tedenby is not NHL material, period. I was sitting two rows from him getting level by Bouillon and he got absolutely destroyed.

Having him in our 1st line is a complete waste and it's dragging our stars for playing "shorthanded". Package his ass with Volchenkov somewhere for a forward.... Two birds with one stone.
you complain about how awful Volch and Tedenby are, but then want to package them for a forward?

you can't have it both ways. if they suck, they suck and they don't have value.

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01-28-2013, 07:37 AM
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Only place he's going is Albany when Henrique returns

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you complain about how awful Volch and Tedenby are, but then want to package them for a forward?

you can't have it both ways. if they suck, they suck and they don't have value.
I second that.

If only we could have Senator Volchenkov back, he would have some good value, but I'm not sure what happened to him.

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01-28-2013, 08:00 AM
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Tedenby needs to do what Yayo did a couple years ago and just bulk up. Might help, might not, but it doesn't hurt to try.

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01-28-2013, 08:02 AM
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Tedenby needs to do what Yayo did a couple years ago and just bulk up. Might help, might not, but it doesn't hurt to try.
I don't know if he could bulk up his hockey IQ , but that's what he needs

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I'm confused. Are we mad that he hasn't scored a goal in like 20 total minutes of ice time yet, while being moved all up and down the lineup?

Tedenby has not looked great, but it's boggling my mind how Deboer expects his top line to click playing every game with a new line mate. Be it Zubrus, Tedenby, or Matteau, none of them have actually spent enough time up top to be sure whether they're playing well or not. The Parise - Henrique - Kovalchuk line took like 5 games before it started to click. Fans were calling for Deboer's head before that. Tedenby's gotten like 16 minutes of ice time spread out over 3 games on the top two lines, and he hasn't produced any worse than Zubrus or Matteau in those spots.

Basically, if Deboer doesn't trust him, he needs to go. It's embarrassing to watch him start every game on a top 6 line and then spend the third period on the bench. Even Lemaire trusted this kid on the ice late in games. Send him to a team where he's gonna play and get him the hell out of here because he's a waste of ice time playing 4th line minutes.
Yes, thank you. This is what I wanted to write, now I don't need to.

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01-28-2013, 10:25 AM
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With Tedenby's inconsistent play I'm somewhat surprised we haven't seen Butler given a shot. Could he really be any worse than MT?

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01-28-2013, 10:29 AM
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you complain about how awful Volch and Tedenby are, but then want to package them for a forward?

you can't have it both ways. if they suck, they suck and they don't have value.
And I'm not expecting anything "special" in return either

Volchenkov might be worth something to another team but under DeBoer's system, he's our weakest link at even strenght and is mostly used as a PK specialist who can't clear the zone if his life was depending on it.

Tedenby is a throw in that can maybe thrive in a system that isn't tight and structured, like ours for the past 2 decades.

All I'm saying is that we can land a "ok" 3rd liner with something around those two, not a stud 1st liner.

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I'm confused. Are we mad that he hasn't scored a goal in like 20 total minutes of ice time yet, while being moved all up and down the lineup?

Tedenby has not looked great, but it's boggling my mind how Deboer expects his top line to click playing every game with a new line mate. Be it Zubrus, Tedenby, or Matteau, none of them have actually spent enough time up top to be sure whether they're playing well or not. The Parise - Henrique - Kovalchuk line took like 5 games before it started to click. Fans were calling for Deboer's head before that. Tedenby's gotten like 16 minutes of ice time spread out over 3 games on the top two lines, and he hasn't produced any worse than Zubrus or Matteau in those spots.

Basically, if Deboer doesn't trust him, he needs to go. It's embarrassing to watch him start every game on a top 6 line and then spend the third period on the bench. Even Lemaire trusted this kid on the ice late in games. Send him to a team where he's gonna play and get him the hell out of here because he's a waste of ice time playing 4th line minutes.
As fans, I see this pov pop up way too often.

His offense isn't the problem, it's everything else and to us, being as solid away from the puck is almost more important then being solid with the puck and Tedenby just doesn't know what to do or who to cover when he doesn't have the puck on stick.

The coaching staff isn't there to figure out of he can cut it or not. They're there to win games and try and find the "perfect match" to compliment IK and Travis. IMO, Matteau and Zubrus are the style of forwards that should play with them cause they go hard to net, aren't scrared to go in the corners and fight for loose pucks, their board work is second to none, etc, etc, etc... basically everything Tedenby isn't.

Chances aren't given to rookies, you have to earn your way up to the top line and not expect DeBoer to hand you a spot with the big boys. Tedenby hasn't proved to anyone since arriving with our team that he's top #6, New Jersey Devils hockey material and that's why he's getting the run around.

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I've been holding this attitude this for quite some time. He's not an NHL caliber player on both sides of the puck, and that's a problem.

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His offense isn't the problem, it's everything else and to us, being as solid away from the puck is almost more important then being solid with the puck and Tedenby just doesn't know what to do or who to cover when he doesn't have the puck on stick.

The coaching staff isn't there to figure out of he can cut it or not. They're there to win games and try and find the "perfect match" to compliment IK and Travis. IMO, Matteau and Zubrus are the style of forwards that should play with them cause they go hard to net, aren't scrared to go in the corners and fight for loose pucks, their board work is second to none, etc, etc, etc... basically everything Tedenby isn't.

Chances aren't given to rookies, you have to earn your way up to the top line and not expect DeBoer to hand you a spot with the big boys. Tedenby hasn't proved to anyone since arriving with our team that he's top #6, New Jersey Devils hockey material and that's why he's getting the run around.
Exactly, he is a one dimensional player. He can't hit, he can't grind along the boards, he can't be used on the PK, he can't be used in a shut down role. So if you are not producing or AT LEAST putting together a few competent shifts defensively away from the puck you're left with nothing.

Guys like Yayo and Matteau may not have been lighting it up but they have value in other areas of their game. He's been getting chances in the top six but has been horrible shift after shift. I don't expect him to light it up but he's just not smart without the puck and in our own zone. That dangling around guys and other fancy **** may work on a giant ice surface in the no hit SEL but it doesn't work here.

Yayo and Matteau have started at the bottom of the lineup and through smart play in those other areas have earned them spots higher up. I don't know what the hell people are seeing out there if they can't understand this, it's very simple.

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you complain about how awful Volch and Tedenby are, but then want to package them for a forward?

you can't have it both ways. if they suck, they suck and they don't have value.
To be fair, Bergfors, Cormier and Oduya sucked and look what they netted us. Just Saying.

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And he's going to Albany...

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Welcome either Bobby Butler or Darche or trade forward

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Butler comes up for him.
Matteau goes back to the Q, Henrique comes back.

Profit.

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As much as I like Matteau, he's going back to the Q. No sense in burning an ELC year on this short season... We can call him up come playoff time to get him some coaching anyways.

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