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02-09-2005, 06:58 PM
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ST.JOHNS verses ROCHESTER - GDT - WED FEB 9th

Game Day




ST. JOHN'S

MAPLE LEAFS
vs.
ROCHESTER AMERICANS
FEBRUARY 9, 2005
7:30 PM (NT)




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SCORING SUMMARY *** FINAL IN SHOOT OUT ****


SCORE : ST. JOHNS 4 - ROCHESTER 3

SCORING SUMMARY

Period 1
St. John's - Kyle Wellwood 23 (Harold Druken) 11:14

Period 2
St. John's - Ian White 4 (Kyle Wellwood) 2:38
Rochester - Brandon Smith (powerplay) (Chris Taylor, Derek Roy) 7:39

Period 3
Rochester - Michael Ryan (Norm Milley, Derek Roy) 7:29
St. John's - Brett Engelhardt 2 (Brad Leeb, Jay Harrison) 8:23
Rochester - Norm Milley (Derek Roy) 10:23
OT
(no scoring)

SHOOTOUT
Rochester


SHOOTER...........SCORE
Derek Roy ............ NO
Jason Pominville ....YES
Michael Ryan .........NO
Norm Milley .........YES
Milan Bartovic ....... NO
Derek Roy ............ NO

St. John's

SHOOTER.........SCORE
David Ling............NO
Harold Druken...... NO
Brad Leeb............NO
Kyle Wellwood.....YES
Jeremy Williams...YES
Kyle Wellwood.....YES

PENALTIES

Period 1
Rochester - Brandon Smith - (Holding), 2 min, 6:47
St. John's - Matt Hubbauer - (Interference), 2 min, 8:22
Rochester - Nathan Paetsch - (Cross Checking), 2 min, 14:48
Rochester - Jeff Jillson - (Tripping), 2 min, 18:45

Period 2
St. John's - Brendan Bell - (Interference), 2 min, 4:49
St. John's - Robb Palahnuk - (Hooking), 2 min, 7:19
Rochester - Michael Ryan - (Slashing), 2 min, 7:52
Rochester - Sean McMorrow - (Fighting Major), 5 min, 11:09
St. John's - Nathan Perrott - (Fighting Major), 5 min, 11:09
St. John's - Nathan Perrott - (Fighting (No Tie Down) Game Misconduct) (56(a)), 10 min, 11:09
St. John's - Brett Engelhardt - (Slashing), 2 min, 15:01
St. John's - Carlo Colaiacovo - (Holding), 2 min, 18:41

Period 3
(no penalties)

OT
(no penalties)

GOALIES

NAME DEC MIN SHOTS SAVES
30 Ryan Miller SOL 65:00 38 35


NAME DEC MIN SHOTS SAVES
31 Jean-Francois Racine WIN 65:00 42 39


POWERPLAYS

Rochester 1 for 5 : St. John's 0 for 4


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We're in OT now. Wellwood just missed a goal by a couple inches.

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OT here we come

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Wellwood , Williams to tie after 5 shots ..

Racine shuts the door

Wellwood scores again

EXCELLENT

Welly puts 3 tonight behind Ryan Miller for the win


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Leafs win with three in a row by wellwood, williams than wellwood again to come back from down 2-0 in the shoot out.

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That was a great comeback in the shootout.

I've got to admit I'm slowly starting to come around on the shootouts. I'm still not sure I would totally support them in the NHL, but I'm a lot more open to the idea now that I've seen it in the AHL.

Three Stars (along with announcer's comments):

1. Kyle Wellwood (Another tremendous effort- two points and two for two in the shootout)
2. Norm Milley (Scored a highlight reel goal from his knees)
3. Ian White (A goal, played a very solid game in his own end and logged a ton of minutes)

Hardest Working Player of the Game: Harold Druken (Stepped up his game tonight. Played a two way game- the kind of game the coaches wish they could see from him every night)

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Sweet.



What's our record in shootouts?

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What's our record in shootouts?
6-2.

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6-2.


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Great game!!

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As much as I like the win I still hate shootouts.

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That was a great comeback in the shootout.

I've got to admit I'm slowly starting to come around on the shootouts. I'm still not sure I would totally support them in the NHL, but I'm a lot more open to the idea now that I've seen it in the AHL.
Really .. I love the shootout ..

An overtime tie should be worth 1 point each and the shootout give the team the second bonus point ..

I think fans would love it ..

The NHL many years ago use to have showdown between periods on games .. It was a similar idea for entertainment purposes and it was great .

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As much as I like the win I still hate shootouts.
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shootouts are great! better then going home with a stinkin tie. everybody in the rink loves it.

jeremy williams 11 goals with 28 games left to play. on pace for about 17!

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Shootouts are great...until your team loses something important because of one.

That's when you realize it's a moronic and unfair way to settle a game.

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Racine owns.

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Shootouts are great...until your team loses something important because of one.

That's when you realize it's a moronic and unfair way to settle a game.
Its true

Canada lost a gold medal in the Olympics in a shootout goal against Sweden.

It is fair for all teams and I bet you Fans love it in general and maybe bringing back Fan support after a lockout that this might be the way ..

And instead of a hard fought 1 -1 tie ending, compared often to like kissing your sister, then at least after that you get to at least use shootout mouthwash..

Perhaps they have to shorten the season from 82 to 70 games .. Increase OT from 5 to 10 minutes and then after each team gets a point ..They have a shootout to decide the winner ..

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shootouts are great! better then going home with a stinkin tie. everybody in the rink loves it.

jeremy williams 11 goals with 28 games left to play. on pace for about 17!
You're lucky I didn't say lets count Shootout goals and St. Johns wins by Williams.

but you have admit he is doing alright for his first season in the AHL ..

22 points in 48 games good for 6th on the team in scoring, with vets Ling, Druken and Leeb ahead of him ..and he really hasn't found a regular role yet in St. Johns

For a 7th round pick I say not to shabby at all ..

That goal in the shootout in this game was huge, that was a lot of pressure on the kid and a clutch goal to tie it up, after winning it the other night for your St. Johns team ..

It interesting that Shedden makes him go last all the time. I'd have him in the middle ..Ling to Start it off and Welly to End it all and Williams in the middle..

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Shootouts are great...until your team loses something important because of one.

That's when you realize it's a moronic and unfair way to settle a game.
thing is, you can't really lose much in a shootout, only gain. both teams have their point. a game should never end in a tie.

i don't see how it could be unfair. both teams have the same number of shooters and one goalie to beat and the same ice conditions.

love shootouts! only a matter of time before they're part of the nhl too!

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You're lucky I didn't say lets count Shootout goals and St. Johns wins by Williams.

but you have admit he is doing alright for his first season in the AHL ..
ha, i knew you'd try to put another clause into the deal. of course, if you had said shootouts are included, i never would have gone along with that.

he is doing well. i thought 15 goals would be a good season for him. 20 goals is expecting too much.

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ha, i knew you'd try to put another clause into the deal. of course, if you had said shootouts are included, i never would have gone along with that.

he is doing well. i thought 15 goals would be a good season for him. 20 goals is expecting too much.
I am not changing anything .. Just pointing out that Williams contribution in the win column for St. Johns goes beyond the goals he has .. and with a shooter like Williams you never know he can score at any time ..

15 goals is a good season and in fact it interesting to know if that total would be different because of the lockout .. Does Williams have his goals because of Stajan and Wilm in the AHL due to the lockout or has lack of icetime by their presence been the main factor .. Also interesting to know is if St. Johns was not doing as well as they are that is getting Shedden to play his vets like Wilm and Perrott and McDoinald and even defensive players like Robb Palahnuk despite having ZERO POINTS on the season more in games then Williams to preserve wins in 1 goal games is the factor.

Welly got 20 last season but St. Johns was not very good .. Williams may not get 20 but the team is doing well and he is certainly contributing to the success .. In the long run what is better ?? I may lose the bet , but win the war if a 7th round draft pick goes on to NHL success ..

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Welly top 5 in scoring, tied for team lead.

Nice to see these later round picks doing okay.

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I am not changing anything .. Just pointing out that Williams contribution in the win column for St. Johns goes beyond the goals he has .. and with a shooter like Williams you never know he can score at any time ..

15 goals is a good season and in fact it interesting to know if that total would be different because of the lockout .. Does Williams have his goals because of Stajan and Wilm in the AHL due to the lockout or has lack of icetime by their presence been the main factor .. Also interesting to know is if St. Johns was not doing as well as they are that is getting Shedden to play his vets like Wilm and Perrott and McDoinald and even defensive players like Robb Palahnuk despite having ZERO POINTS on the season more in games then Williams to preserve wins in 1 goal games is the factor.

Welly got 20 last season but St. Johns was not very good .. Williams may not get 20 but the team is doing well and he is certainly contributing to the success .. In the long run what is better ?? I may lose the bet , but win the war if a 7th round draft pick goes on to NHL success ..
Why Shedden does not put Williams on the right side of Stajan I will never know. I think these 2 kids could be real good together. Stajan with NHL passing and Williams with NHL shooting. IMHO 2 years from now, we will see these 2 on the 2nd line for Toronto as center and RW respectively.

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Why Shedden does not put Williams on the right side of Stajan I will never know. I think these 2 kids could be real good together. Stajan with NHL passing and Williams with NHL shooting. IMHO 2 years from now, we will see these 2 on the 2nd line for Toronto as center and RW respectively.
Well I'm still not completely sold on Williams being a 2nd liner. He could be, but he still has a ways to go.

But I completely agree about putting Stajan and Williams together. I've been thinking that as well.

I like Shedden but a major fault of his is that he hasn't found a second scoring line. It's a real problem. He needs to put a line together that he thinks might work and keep them together for a few games. I say maybe Stajan, Williams and Wilm or something like that.

He's got to stop switching up the lines every other shift. He'll never find a scoring line by doing that.

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