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Ryan McDonagh and/or Derek Stepan to MIN

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11-19-2012, 06:53 PM
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Ryan McDonagh and/or Derek Stepan to MIN

What would it take to pry those two from NYR? Doesn't have to be both in one deal.

Granlund is untouchable, so is 2013 1st.

Bouchard and Heatley would be on my block.

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11-19-2012, 07:05 PM
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Pepper your angus if you want McDonagh.

Granlund & Brodin would probably have to be involved for him.

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11-19-2012, 07:06 PM
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What would it take to pry those two from NYR? Doesn't have to be both in one deal.

Granlund is untouchable, so is 2013 1st.

Bouchard and Heatley would be on my block.
Not a fan of either team. But Mcdonagh would not be moved if granlund or the first rounder wasnt involved.

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11-19-2012, 07:06 PM
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Stepan+ for Koivu.

Not interested in trading McDonagh at all. Only if an established superstar is on the other end of the trade.

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What would it take to pry those two from NYR? Doesn't have to be both in one deal.

Granlund is untouchable, so is 2013 1st.

Bouchard and Heatley would be on my block.
For McDonagh and/or Stepan?


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I don't see how a deal gets done.

1.) Bouchard is a free agent next year.

2.) Heatley doesn't hold much value outside of Minnesota.

3.) McDonagh's value is at an all-time high. He's nearly untouchable at this point, and I'm positive Minnesota isn't going to package multiple prospects to get this deal done.

4.) Trading for Stepan right now doesn't make sense for Minnesota.

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not a NYR fan but I don't think there's any player on Minnesota's roster I'd trade McDonagh one-on-one for.

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11-19-2012, 07:14 PM
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not a NYR fan but I don't think there's any player on Minnesota's roster I'd trade McDonagh one-on-one for.
No?



It's totally fine if you wouldn't. I'm just curious.

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No?



It's totally fine if you wouldn't. I'm just curious.
Suter is clearly a better player than McD, but not so much that he warrants getting paid ten times as much.

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Sorry, but McDonagh is absolutely and positively not going anywhere right now.

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Heatley + Gilbert + 2014 1st + Brodin+Coyle/Larsson for Stepan, McDonagh, Stralman?

Not my final offer, tell me what should be added.

Stepan can play second or first line right wing, he's played wing on several occasions. Setoguchi could go the other way too if you want.

McDonagh addresses our serious need for defense. It's too bad he's leftie, but then we can slide Spurgeon to the top pairing assuming Gilbert comes back to NYR, who needs rightie D-men.


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11-19-2012, 07:22 PM
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Well, McDonagh is just untouchable. Like someone said before, it would have to be value wise like Granlund+Brodin. Minnesota doesn't want to give up its prospects and the Rangers frankly have no reason to trade McDonagh unless a better defenseman is coming back. And the list of those is few.

As for Stepan, I can only see Stepan+ for Koivu. Though I don't see why you guys even need him with Koivu and Granlund.

Besides the fact that these fellas are from Minnesota, I see no real reason for them to go. Stepan's not a great fit and McDonagh, well, there's really no one player I would want for him from the Wild. He's too valuable to us.

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No?



It's totally fine if you wouldn't. I'm just curious.
No thanks.

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Heatley + Gilbert + 2014 1st + Brodin+Coyle/Larsson for Stepan, McDonagh, Stralman?

Not my final offer, tell me what should be added.
That's awful for the Rangers. They add nearly double in salary while downgrading overall.

Not only that, but they just added Nash, why would they need Heatley? By the time the season starts if it does, Gaborik will be back, and both Gaborik and Nash are far better than Heatley at this point. Not only that, but Heatley's style of play doesn't fit the Rangers at all.

The only player that interests me from Minnesota is Koivu.

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Heatley + Gilbert + 2014 1st + Brodin+Coyle/Larsson for Stepan, McDonagh, Stralman?

Not my final offer, tell me what should be added.

Stepan can play second or first line right wing, he's played wing on several occasions. Setoguchi could go the other way too if you want.

McDonagh addresses our serious need for defense. It's too bad he's leftie, but then we can slide Spurgeon to the top pairing assuming Gilbert comes back to NYR, who needs rightie D-men.
... What are you trying to accomplish with this trade?

Seems to me like you're disregarding both team's needs by trying to get two Minnesota boys on the Wild regardless of players going the other way, salary, etc.

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11-19-2012, 08:49 PM
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... What are you trying to accomplish with this trade?

Seems to me like you're disregarding both team's needs by trying to get two Minnesota boys on the Wild regardless of players going the other way, salary, etc.
I do slightly have a mancrush on Stepan, I'm from around Hastings (Rochester), but I actually think McDonagh would fill a need. I did forget about Heatley's ginormous contract though.

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11-19-2012, 09:24 PM
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I do slightly have a mancrush on Stepan, I'm from around Hastings (Rochester), but I actually think McDonagh would fill a need. I did forget about Heatley's ginormous contract though.
So your only thinking about what the Wild want, not the Rangers? From everything you've posted I get the sense your not thinking about them at all.

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11-19-2012, 09:36 PM
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Why would the Wild OR the Rangers do this deal?

The Rangers are clearly unwilling to deal away Mcdonagh (and frankly I don't blame them a bit) while the Wild have no room for Stepan right now. The Rangers aren't exactly the team to try to be dealing away Heatley's massive contract to either. As for Parise and Suter, both have full NMCs for at least the first year of their deals, probably even more.

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The only thing that would be remotely enough value for the Rangers to even consider would probably be Mikko Koivu, and as the Wild have no interest in moving him this is a terrible trade idea.

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With their current roster, the Rangers have an excellent shot at the cup. I highly doubt they'll want to trade away two key players.

The Wild are rebuilding. Bringing in Mcdonagh and Stepan doesn't make sense in the long run when we're giving up prospects.

Sorry dude, this trade just doesn't make sense when you look at the mindset of both teams.

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I do slightly have a mancrush on Stepan, I'm from around Hastings (Rochester), but I actually think McDonagh would fill a need. I did forget about Heatley's ginormous contract though.
...But Hastings and Rochester are like two hours apart at least.

Nah, the Wild's roster is basically set, I don't see any trades until the deadline if they're poised to make a run. Same with the Rags too, they've made enough waves in the offseason getting Nash.

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Yowza. I wouldn't want to give up the pieces for what it would take to acquire McDonagh and/or Stepan. As good as they are, it would set the Wild back. They, especially McDonagh, would take require a massive overpayment. No point in Minnesota doing that.

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11-19-2012, 11:14 PM
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...But Hastings and Rochester are like two hours apart at least.
Only about an hour actually, but that's the beside the point. This trade will never happen and makes no sense.

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Yeah, Minnesota says no thanks based on the price you would need to pay to get either of those great young players. I think the Wild roster is pretty much set if there is a season, depending on how the prospects play and how the injuries hit.

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I agree Wild is pretty much set. Time to give the young player chance to shine.

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