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Ryan McDonagh and/or Derek Stepan to MIN

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11-20-2012, 04:26 AM
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What if the Wild was able to get ahold of Scott Gomez... would the Rangers deal McDonaugh for Gomez?

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11-20-2012, 07:01 AM
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Think Koivu, Brodin or Granlund as the main pieces....

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11-20-2012, 07:10 AM
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What would it take to pry those two from NYR? Doesn't have to be both in one deal.

Granlund is untouchable, so is 2013 1st.

Bouchard and Heatley would be on my block.
No sense in talking then.

We have no use or desire for either Bouchard or an obviously declining Heatley.

You want either McD or Stepan, then step up to the plate with something comparable in age and talent or top picks and prospects.

Asking for either or both of these two youngsters and saying Granlund and the 2013 1st are off the table pretty much ends the conversation before it begins.

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11-20-2012, 07:54 AM
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Suter is clearly a better player than McD, but not so much that he warrants getting paid ten times as much.
You're saying that like McDonagh is on a dirty cheap long-term contract. How much would a UFA McDonagh get? Certainly more than his current cap hit ($1.3m).

Two different situations.

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11-20-2012, 08:31 AM
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There is not a minnesota fan around who would not take that trade. Imagine finding someone to take Heatley off ur hands and landing Stepan and Mcdonagh

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11-20-2012, 09:28 AM
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Still can't believe NYR got McDonaugh AND dumped Gomez in the same transaction!

What deal was more of a steal? Rangers dumping Gomez for McDonaugh, or Sharks aquiring Joe Thornton for Sturm, Stuart, W.Primeau?

Rangers easily decline this proposal btw

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11-20-2012, 09:31 AM
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What would it take to pry those two from NYR? Doesn't have to be both in one deal.

Granlund is untouchable, so is 2013 1st.

Bouchard and Heatley would be on my block.
Not really giving the Rangers a reason to make a deal. Not that they are really looking to deal either of those two in the first place.

You wouldn't deal a first for both of them? The Rangers wouldn't take a first for one of them.

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11-20-2012, 09:31 AM
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What if the Wild was able to get ahold of Scott Gomez... would the Rangers deal McDonaugh for Gomez?
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*grumbles profanities toward Bob Gainey*


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11-20-2012, 09:34 AM
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Still can't believe NYR got McDonaugh AND dumped Gomez in the same transaction!

What deal was more of a steal? Rangers dumping Gomez for McDonaugh, or Sharks aquiring Joe Thornton for Sturm, Stuart, W.Primeau?

Rangers easily decline this proposal btw
Dumping Gomez also gave the Rangers the capspace to sign Gaborik.

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11-20-2012, 09:36 AM
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You're saying that like McDonagh is on a dirty cheap long-term contract. How much would a UFA McDonagh get? Certainly more than his current cap hit ($1.3m).

Two different situations.
I don't think he was saying it was.

But the fact is McD isn't a UFA. The amount of salary we'd be taking on isn't anywhere near equal to the improvement Suter would offer over McD. Trading McD straight up for Suter would be idiotic for the Rangers, they'd be handcuffing themselves with that contract while only getting a slight boost to their defense.

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The Rangers are set. The only thing I would want is a better bottom 6, which obviously means this trade here isn't happening.

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11-20-2012, 09:47 AM
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What would it take to pry those two from NYR? Doesn't have to be both in one deal.

Granlund is untouchable, so is 2013 1st.

Bouchard and Heatley would be on my block.
The fact you want McD and took your best prospect off the table just killed the trade.

I'm guessing you'd need something like Granlund + Coyle + something else don't know

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11-20-2012, 11:34 AM
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The fact you want McD and took your best prospect off the table just killed the trade.

I'm guessing you'd need something like Granlund + Coyle + something else don't know
That + something else , is a prayer. Because that's all Min can hope for if they want either player.

Artem Anisimov was moved in the Rick Nash trade. Stepan's our 2C. After him, it's Brian Boyle. Rangers cannot afford to move Stepan, and if they did, it would have to be for an affordable upgrade for that position.

Doesn't makes sense for the Rangers. And, the value is waaaaaay off.

OP should put a little bit of effort into his pathetic proposal.

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11-20-2012, 01:03 PM
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Most teams wont touch Suter or Parises contracts

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They should just wait till they hit UFA lolz

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11-20-2012, 01:16 PM
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Most teams wont touch Suter or Parises contracts
Because Wild won't let them

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Because Wild won't let them
Or because they will look ugly in roughly 5-7 years

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11-20-2012, 02:49 PM
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They should just wait till they hit UFA lolz
that just made my day.

I know you weren't serious, but still it played well here.

good job.

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11-20-2012, 03:11 PM
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With their current roster, the Rangers have an excellent shot at the cup. I highly doubt they'll want to trade away two key players.

The Wild are rebuilding. Bringing in Mcdonagh and Stepan doesn't make sense in the long run when we're giving up prospects.

Sorry dude, this trade just doesn't make sense when you look at the mindset of both teams.
I don't understand. You can rebuild around McDonagh and Stepan. They are 22 and 21 respectively. If anything, these two are guaranteed NHL players with star talent for the next 10 or 15 years.

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11-20-2012, 03:12 PM
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They should just wait till they hit UFA lolz
We aren't the devils though, we keep our talent.

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11-20-2012, 03:19 PM
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Parise bitterness aside, and from a non Rangers fan perspective no way would I take Suter over Mcdonagh. Yes Suter is better now, but not 10 times better(Woah is Suter really 10 x the cap hit of Mcdonagh right now?) Plus if you get a player like Mcdonagh for a heap of trash like Gomez, then you really gotta keep him!

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We aren't the devils though, we keep our talent.
While I hate the way Lou does business concerning UFA's, can't really blame Parise on him. Nashville tried to lock up Suter, and he wouldn't take an extension.

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11-20-2012, 03:36 PM
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I would not trade Granlund or Brodin. I only marginally like Parise and Suter and don't think they possess anything we'll want in 5-10 years. No way does Minnesota give up the pieces for McDonagh. And no way does McDonagh get traded from the Rangers. The Rangers have a solid roster already, why change it?

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11-20-2012, 04:58 PM
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I don't understand. You can rebuild around McDonagh and Stepan. They are 22 and 21 respectively. If anything, these two are guaranteed NHL players with star talent for the next 10 or 15 years.
Not when we trade our entire prospect pool for them.

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11-20-2012, 05:17 PM
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I don't think there's a deal here.

Forget McDonagh.

Now Stepan, he's our #2 center and he's just too important right now. The only player we can afford to trade him for on Minnesota is Koivu and that's overpayment on Minnesota's end.

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11-20-2012, 05:42 PM
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Coyle + Granlund +__________? for real? No, thanks. We suffered for our forward prospect depth, we're not going to gut it to get better on D. Crazy prediction here but Granlund will end up a more valuable player than McDonagh anyway.

Offering Heatley and/or Bouchard was just insulting, though. C'mon, man.

I know it depends on the CBA, but what do you all think McDonagh would be worth on the open market right now, considering he's really young, highly effective, and still getting better? I think he could see a pretty ridiculous long-term payday if there were no cap. That's just speculation fueled by the Suter comparison...A team is going to have to keep this in mind while acquiring/signing players with contracts that bump over his UFA year.

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