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01-29-2005, 06:28 PM
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Penguins head coach tears his players to shreds

http://www.citizensvoice.com/site/ne...d=504260&rfi=6

I don't think I've ever seen such a lashing publicized. A few gems from coach Therrien:

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This year, they're so flat. I've coached 14 years, and I've never remembered coaching a group as flat as that, even some millionaires in the NHL.
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And they think they're a good team? Some of those guys think they could play in the NHL? Ha!
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Endicott, since he's back, is doing nothing. Nothing, nothing, nothing. He cares about his sticks. He doesn't like his sticks.
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Abid and Armstrong, they stay out there for two minutes. They have to be the greatest athlete because they're capable of shifts of two minutes. They don't care that we're asking for short shifts, 45 seconds, 50 seconds. What are they doing? 'I'm not listening to the coach. I'm doing my own thing.'
Even as a Penguins fan, I thought it was great to read. Good stuff.

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01-29-2005, 06:37 PM
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This year, they're so flat. I've coached 14 years, and I've never remembered coaching a group as flat as that, even some millionaires in the NHL.


surprising... after all, he's coached the Montreal Canadiens in their horrible years...

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wow, those are some strong words from Therrien. I never found him to be a great coach when it comes to x's and o's but I respected the passion he seems to have for the game and his players. I hope these comments don't get him canned.

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Good for him....

He even called out Mr. Fleury
Marc-Andre, now we need four, five goals to win a game. Four is not enough.


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What a rant! One of the better post-game coach rants in a long time, any sport.

Right up there with Jim Mora's "PLAYOFFS???" rant a couple years ago.

Hope he enjoyed is stay in Wilkes-Barre...

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I was doing a game story one night and a coach really ripped into one particular guy. I kept asking more questions, giving him a chance to say something else, but he kept on going back to that guy. I was like okay, if that's what you really want to say, and printed it. Made for a good story, but it put me in controversy I didn't want to be in.

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Isn't an AHL coach supposed to be more of a teacher? Therrien sounds like a jackass that can't control a bunch of kids that he is supposed to be teaching the game to.

Maybe this attitude is acceptable in the NHL, but I don't know if it will do any good in this league. Keep it behind closed doors.

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Isn't an AHL coach supposed to be more of a teacher? Therrien sounds like a jackass that can't control a bunch of kids that he is supposed to be teaching the game to.

Maybe this attitude is acceptable in the NHL, but I don't know if it will do any good in this league. Keep it behind closed doors.
I don't know. Players in the AHL need to be motivated as well. If they're not mentally tough enough to handle a coach's rant I don't believe they'll find much success in the NHL.

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Isn't an AHL coach supposed to be more of a teacher? Therrien sounds like a jackass that can't control a bunch of kids that he is supposed to be teaching the game to.

Maybe this attitude is acceptable in the NHL, but I don't know if it will do any good in this league. Keep it behind closed doors.
There's only so much teaching you can give to a bunch of schmucks playing by their own rules, which it appears the Penguins are. He openly criticized them for not listening to him and doing their own thing, so what should he do? Sit them down and quietly tell them to behave themselves? I'd kick them in the ass as well, publicly if need be, something to get through to them. The guy knows what he's doing, he took the team to the Calder Cup finals in his first year.

Its not like this is pee wee hockey, the players aren't going to hurry home and lock themselves in their rooms and cry in their pillows. They're professionals, not fragile little boys. If they can't take it here, they don't stand a chance in the NHL.

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Isn't an AHL coach supposed to be more of a teacher? Therrien sounds like a jackass that can't control a bunch of kids that he is supposed to be teaching the game to.

Maybe this attitude is acceptable in the NHL, but I don't know if it will do any good in this league. Keep it behind closed doors.
public prase, and privet criticism has always work best for me. but there are times when and if that fails you have to go to the wall and nail them to it. i think that this was that time.

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Hope he enjoyed is stay in Wilkes-Barre...
Maybe he isn't enjoying his stay and is pulling a George Costanza?


Therrien is crazy, but I respect his passion for hockey and winning.

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I never realy liked the way he coached and his system but man his passion for the game is awesome.

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Isn't an AHL coach supposed to be more of a teacher? Therrien sounds like a jackass that can't control a bunch of kids that he is supposed to be teaching the game to.

Maybe this attitude is acceptable in the NHL, but I don't know if it will do any good in this league. Keep it behind closed doors.
Here are some quotes from the article that might make you think otherwise:

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Guys making the same mistakes over and over. It's like, hey, why would I care for those guys?
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What are they doing? 'I'm not listening to the coach. I'm doing my own thing. We put Ben Eaves, we put Christensen, we put Talbot, we put any rookie out there and he doesn't give us what we're expecting. Not once.
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There's nothing you can do as a coach. You just wish those guys are going to act, they're going to play hard, they're going to do the things we try to teach them.
Seems like he's trying to teach them, and he's tired of repeating.

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01-30-2005, 12:48 AM
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You know their record is 21-13-5-6.

Not so bad for such a "bad" team. Reading the article you would think they were last overall.

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Isn't an AHL coach supposed to be more of a teacher? Therrien sounds like a jackass that can't control a bunch of kids that he is supposed to be teaching the game to.

Maybe this attitude is acceptable in the NHL, but I don't know if it will do any good in this league. Keep it behind closed doors.
I see nothing wrong with challenging youngsters.

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He was almost as bad during the playoffs vs Milwaukee last year.

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What's bad about it?

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Imagine if he had the Rats as his team

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As a coach myself, I commend Michel Therrien for his comments to his team.

Good job; they deserve it.

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As a coach myself, I commend Michel Therrien for his comments to his team.

Good job; they deserve it.
What do you coach... like 8, 9 year old players?

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What's bad about it?
Exactly.

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You know their record is 21-13-5-6.

Not so bad for such a "bad" team. Reading the article you would think they were last overall.
Take a look at Wilkes-Barre's roster, there's no reason they shouldn't be contending for the Calder Cup. On their day, they are a very powerful team capable of beating anyone.

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What a rant! One of the better post-game coach rants in a long time, any sport.

Right up there with Jim Mora's "PLAYOFFS???" rant a couple years ago.

Hope he enjoyed is stay in Wilkes-Barre...

Don't forget:


"HELLO? YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME!"

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It's obvious he thinks more will respond positively than negatively from this. His job is to prepare these players for the NHL.

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You know their record is 21-13-5-6.

Not so bad for such a "bad" team. Reading the article you would think they were last overall.
i thought that they should be leading for the cup. and so dose the coach. thats why he did what he did.

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Maybe he isn't enjoying his stay and is pulling a George Costanza?
He might also want to show up to practice, joke around with the guys and pretend as if nothing happened.

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